What is it that ZOS expects of a solo person when this type of damage is the new PvP?

vanddalx

Are these the right changes for a healthy PvP environment? I'm in V14 gold medium armor, not a vamp, and from full health 20k I didn't have a chance through a tri-pot and spamming Rally. Some helpful person drug the Ice Comet onto me, wasn't even a direct hit, and a ballista landed just after that as I broke out of CC. I know right off I sacrifice a lot playing a stamina nightblade. I'm not going to stand toe-to-toe with most classes with absorb shields and resto staffs. But on top of a keep trying to help out and insta-dead, no options?

This is one of many examples, but just having these two stacked up for this amount of damage in under five seconds is a tad too much imho.

Thoughts?



LOL, and as I'm running up helping to defend again, this happens!!

This was an insta-death worse then the first one. It was indeed a first.

cozmon3c_ESO

dont stand in the red
i think it was fine all night, i got one shot a few times in like 4 hours so, not so bad. it was my own fault for not watching my feet.

mrvbalc

A Normal bosmer man
hahahaha

Poxheart

Even as a stamina nightblade you should probably have dark cloak on your bar for two reasons: 1) it clears dots. 2) it makes you ignore meteor. Then there's always maintaining situational awareness and dodging out of the red circles.

vanddalx

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

dont stand in the red
i think it was fine all night, i got one shot a few times in like 4 hours so, not so bad. it was my own fault for not watching my feet.

You probably have a pocket healer all night I'm guessing?

vanddalx

Poxheart wrote: »

Even as a stamina nightblade you should probably have dark cloak on your bar for two reasons: 1) it clears dots. 2) it makes you ignore meteor. Then there's always maintaining situational awareness and dodging out of the red circles.

I appreciate the helpful information. I don't trust dark cloak to actually work, but I do use it. And I'm all about awareness, and will of course watch the red better. I'm just not about getting one shot in any game. It's not a mechanic that lends itself to the health and longevity of any PvP experience.

vanddalx

mrvbalc wrote: »

A Normal bosmer man
hahahaha

I don't know what you meant by this, but you reminded me that I forgot to mention I'm a v14 Dunmer.

Forumer-in-Prison

Poxheart wrote: »

Even as a stamina nightblade you should probably have dark cloak on your bar for two reasons: 1) it clears dots. 2) it makes you ignore meteor. Then there's always maintaining situational awareness and dodging out of the red circles.

This alone can make evading the red circle a lot easier...

" Keep Rolling... Rolling.. Rolling.. Rolling... "

eNumbra

vanddalx wrote: »

Thoughts?

That kind of damage seems about right for getting hit with a Ballista Bolt and a Comet.


Like cozmon said, don't stand in the red.

vanddalx

eNumbra wrote: »

vanddalx wrote: »

Thoughts?

That kind of damage seems about right for getting hit with a Ballista Bolt and a Comet.


Like cozmon said, don't stand in the red.

I'll adapt if this is going to be the new norm. But being one shot isn't fun no matter how you slice it.

Poxheart

Put more attribute points into health? Swap some stamina glyphs for health glyphs? Try a different armor set? There are other options, too.

eNumbra

vanddalx wrote: »

I'll adapt if this is going to be the new norm. But being one shot isn't fun no matter how you slice it.

To be fair; you weren't one-shot in either of those screens.

vanddalx

eNumbra wrote: »

vanddalx wrote: »

I'll adapt if this is going to be the new norm. But being one shot isn't fun no matter how you slice it.

To be fair; you weren't one-shot in either of those screens.

Technically you are correct. The DoT tick on the treb was pretty much immediate though.

AssaultLemming

Well Mr bond...they expect you to die.

vanddalx

On a positive note, no lag on Azura's Star all night for me. So I can't use that as an excuse lulz.

Soulac

- Dodge
- block
- don't stand in red circles
- movement
- kill easiest or most annoying ppl first (Healer, Archer)
- don't stand in red circles

ixie

I would have liked them to increase the radius of the siege instead of the damage

Orchish

tribbsb16_ESO wrote: »

I would have liked them to increase the radius of the siege instead of the damage

Then it would have still been utterly useless for anything other than hitting walls. Before this change siege against players was pathetic. Siege is slow and paints a clear red circle on the ground before it hits. Most of Cyrodiil stacked shields and out healed multiple siege hits before this update. Now it's actually something to be feared again.

Siege weapons should be deadly and players should be more aware.

DisgracefulMind

@SurprisedFour91 lel Uren your siege damage is famous nao.

Snit

So far, I am pleased with the new siege. You have to stay alert, and even standing in the backline can call for twitch reactions. That's a positive in my book.

Dredlord

I agree with increasing the damage of siege.

I would go so far as to say it would have been *** not to increase it...

They went full *** though with the increase.

Im in heavy with the 20% less siege damage set and it is still ridiculous damage. Just not even fun as it is now.

SWEtree

Dont think anyone ever survived a hit from a siege weapon during the years mankind fought wars. But on the other hand this is a game and getting 1shotted after you have spent 15 minutes running to a siege...well its annoying. And it makes me cry blood irl.

Nyteshade

I just got hit for 27,000 by a fire balista bolt. That's just too much. It was laughable before, I agree. But this is what it needs to be? Good grief.

Hypertionb14_ESO

maybe change from your uber glascannon blockspam build?

the words "full 20K hp" shows you had no care for survability before this update.

Tankqull

use siege shield or its morphs when close to a keep

Soulac

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

maybe change from your uber glascannon blockspam build?

the words "full 20K hp" shows you had no care for survability before this update.

As Stamina Khajiit your won't get that much health as long as you want to deal some damage..
Around 22k are standard and still quite low.
Dropping to 20k Stamina just for a few k more health is not worth it.

Soris

I'd be very happy if they add 10k more health to players in cyro as it was in 1.5. Then the whole whining about 10k hits from skills and siege would stop in second if they do that.
It's more healthy for a mmorpg game rather than some hardcore fps game.

Kas

does spellresist work on fire-X siege?

vanddalx

Kas wrote: »

does spellresist work on fire-X siege?

Siege damage is unmitigated as far as I know.

cozmon3c_ESO

vanddalx wrote: »

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

dont stand in the red
i think it was fine all night, i got one shot a few times in like 4 hours so, not so bad. it was my own fault for not watching my feet.

You probably have a pocket healer all night I'm guessing?

no, people rez you if you mess up atleast. i never have a pocket healer and i envy those that do lol.

SurprisedFour91

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

@SurprisedFour91 lel Uren your siege damage is famous nao.

LOL, i've been killing alot of ppl with my siege