Why Was Templar CC Nerfed And Not Talons?

Laerwen

XEVENEX wrote: »

I feel the same about Streak. Free immunity in exchange for a 1 second stun is not a good deal. It's pretty clear they had no plan or even a simple set of guide lines when they made the class skills. They just did it all willy-nilly, whatever sounded "cool" at the time. Each class should get an instant cc, a hard hitting iterruptable cc, and a soft cc, each with its own style and flavor of course, but fundamentally equal. This is how balance is created. It's really not that difficult.

I've thought much the same, that each class should get the same fundamentals with different flavors. Same dps, same magika, stamina, or health buffs, immunities, shields, rage, etc. This game does advertise "play as you want" so theoretically any class should be able to heal, tank, deal dps, spell cast, etc. The only way they could truly balance it now is to do away with pigeonhole classes and open up the great multifarious mess of abilities they implemented on a whim to everyone. Make more guilds that players can level up how they choose. We already have the Fighters, Mage and Undaunted Guilds, throw the appropriate skills in there then create a Healers, Shadow, and whatever else to take care of the rest. A player could choose to level up one guild to take advantage of all those skills, or use an assortment of various ones to build and perfect their character to their liking. That would put a stop to the endless b**ching about who has what and how nothing is balanced. No more need for nerfs and buffs because everyone has the same shot at using any particular skill. Then ZOS could continue to add whatever skills sound "cool" at the time without players complaining it ruins their entire class. That however, is entirely imaginative frivolity because if ZOS couldn't be bothered to do simple maths in the first place to balance this game they certainly would not take the leap to open up an entire barrage of tools for maximum player creativity.

Rune_Relic

Actually the talons doesnt seem too bad on the surface when taken alone ...buts its never used alone.

Its used to root you to the spot while the bats are released and any form of AOE damage you want to drop on the person.
You have to block negating all your stamina.
Dodge rolling doesnt work....as soon as it starts you get rooted again immediately (less a tonne of stamina for failed dodgeroll).
So sit in that Standard/bats and rejoice...while team mates steam in with more aoe/ranged or melee.
Watch the stamina drop to zero before you die.
It is certain-death if you face a DK using all their abilities at hand.
The ONLY option I get is to sit there and try and suck up the damage...in the middle of a sea of AoE.

You do know the DK VAMP batswarm Talon Standard train wipes 30+ players instantly.
There is one and only one reason its so popular.
Its easy street and overpowered as Combo. Simple as that.
Take away the ROOT and that whole house of cards tumbles down.

Maybe Magicka builds can sustain damage shields against them when the stamina is gone and keep attacking.
Stamina builds are toastas its burnt with the blocking and the useless dodgerolling.
And yes I face this everyday starting 2pm on azuras star as team DC rolls up.
In fact most people dont even bother turning up for PVP for that reason.
They wait for the talon/standard/bat train to go away instead.

Beerbill

I find amusing how DKs try to use those ridiculous arguments that they are not OP at all and don't need to be nerfed especially when you talk about how Talons is stupidly OP and they try to deny it, this will be the downfall of this game when everybody realize that the only viable way to play is being a DK gg #TheDragonKnightsOnline_TamrielUnlimited
#Talons_FaceRollsFTW

Play as you want as long you are a DK Talon Spammer

Snit

Beerbill wrote: »

I find amusing how DKs try to use those ridiculous arguments that they are not OP at all and don't need to be nerfed especially when you talk about how Talons is stupidly OP and they try to deny it, this will be the downfall of this game when everybody realize that the only viable way to play is being a DK gg #TheDragonKnightsOnline_TamrielUnlimited
#Talons_FaceRollsFTW

Play as you want as long you are a DK Talon Spammer

It's OK, because someone saw a livestream where some sorc did really well in duels.


(I wish I were kidding)