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Redguard Female Light. I think the new is just boring and terrible.
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Darlgon✭✭✭✭✭
✭/scratches head.
Everyone knows that the Redguard off the rack looks different than the Redguard Seducer or Redguard Torags right?
and that the looks change between levels?
and that the looks change from white to green to blue to purple to yellow OUT OF EACH OF THOSE LEVELS?
If you are in it for the fashion. head to a different crafting station or use your crowns on those new costumes.Wedding dresses promise to be popular on Orc Males.Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.0 -
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Since when?Everyone knows that the Redguard off the rack looks different than the Redguard Seducer or Redguard Torags right?
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DobbaDeuce✭✭✭I've already expressed my distaste for the change on several other threads, as have many others, and although there definitely are people that prefer the new style, the general feeling I've found is that those, such as myself, that actually choose the Redguard style are very disappointed.
My main issue with this recurring topic is how it always devolves into talk about boobs (even in this thread, when the OP takes a before and after picture that shows absolutely no boobs). First of all, it shouldn't be an issue. Secondly, I play a Male character, and I think the new Male styles look significantly worse as well. To group it into a "no boobs" argument still doesn't tell the whole story and excludes the fact that the overall STYLE is significantly different and what many feel is a step backwards.
Since the beginning of this I have taken the stance of just add all the styles, old and new, to the game. Although I greatly prefer the old style to the new, I can see situations where I would want my character to wear the new as well. Just put them both in, then no one gets upset. This actually creates something for players to get EXCITED about rather than giving them something to be disappointed over. No one was upset when they released the Dwemer style, because it was simply another thing to choose from rather than a replacement for something that already existed.
I believe that if players truly think this new style is an improvement, then they would use it if given the option between the two styles. But forcing them to select what someone else thinks is an improvement, well, as we can see from the passionate responses to this topic, that doesn't always go well.Edited by DobbaDeuce on 27 February 2015 16:47Tamriel-616 - A Chronicle of Tamriel's Heroes
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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Also the truth is that I am already looking at something else - I truly dislike this so much.
I have been known in the past for flipping out about them colouring my (also Redguard) armour salmon pink when the dyes came out.
I just don't like how they just wreck our stuff - leave both options At least.Edited by Islyn on 27 February 2015 19:244 -
Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah but it was a no skin showing boob window if it even was - or ya mean the Orc?
Yeah. I am -.- about this - I know some people think it's dumb but I care about how my stuff looks.
Also: I was going for a more casual look - wearing a sea drake costume - but the stupid Sanctuary Quest thing borked my costume and ESOs answer when the one they sent will not equip at all (no animation, no costume - just nothing happens at all) is 'level another character and get a new one and maybe that will work otherwise just go away.'
I mean why pay someone to change this? Weren't there enough other things to ruin?
Seadrake costume is from a like...level 3 quest in Daggerfall zones isn't it?
Should be able to make a new character and run straight to get that disguise if you want to see if you can get a working copy.
Orc Heavy has a boob window on live, but Redguard Light shows off both male and female chests on the low level gears.
Even on the higher level non-boob-window version in your pictures, the old Redguard style clearly looks better.
Yes I only wore that at high level - i wore something else fully covery at low lvl - just don't recall what.0 -
Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
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Yeah exactly. Darlgon's post is False. The weights look different but any sets in same weight look same - I have redguard in willows, twilights, seducer, torugs, whitestrake annnnd what's the health regen set? Nightmother? Anyway - one more whose name I forget.Edited by Islyn on 27 February 2015 19:472 -
Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭/scratches head.
Everyone knows that the Redguard off the rack looks different than the Redguard Seducer or Redguard Torags right?
and that the looks change between levels?
and that the looks change from white to green to blue to purple to yellow OUT OF EACH OF THOSE LEVELS?
If you are in it for the fashion. head to a different crafting station or use your crowns on those new costumes.Wedding dresses promise to be popular on Orc Males.
Also I am talking obvi about my own lvl and quality (white-gold) only changes the colour not the style.1 -
olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭What a I mean is that I've never before seen a game where the developers couldn't stay our of their own way.
The idea of looking for things to ruin....So ESO.6 -
SewerFairy✭✭✭I also think, the old armor style the better one. Especially it was the only light armor, that looked a little bit like a uniform, if it was coloured right. The new style doesn't even look like a light armor any more, it more looks like a medium armor.
Of course, the textures could look better on the old styles, but that could be done, without replacing them by completly new styles.
I will continue to hope, that my loved current light redguard-style will stay in game somehow.
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Darlgon✭✭✭✭✭
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Yeah exactly. Darlgon's post is False. The weights look different but any sets in same weight look same - I have redguard in willows, twilights, seducer, torugs, whitestrake annnnd what's the health regen set? Nightmother? Anyway - one more whose name I forget.
Fine.. guess I was using two different racials at that level to tell the dresses apart. Here is a screenie of level 14 White Homespun, Whie Seducers and Green Seducers on live as of last week. As you see, changing it to green DID change the look.Edited by Darlgon on 3 March 2015 16:12Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.1 -
Wolfchild07✭✭✭✭✭Original style looks better, change it back. Even the pretty gems were removed, just because.2 -
Greycats✭✭I just logged on and my Redguard light armor was converted to the new style. It isn't so bad with certain dye combinations; however, I did prefer the old style.
One thing of note: Please fix the floating shoulders on the new light armor. Thank you!0 -
Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭This change is just...horrible.
Come to think of it...ALL of the changes to armour, disguises, etc that I have seen are horrible.
Really sad.
Quoted for truth.
I give it about half a year until we start to see new motifs (or mention of then being added) to the Crown Store that would be similar to what we used to have; like variations of known styles, etc.Edited by Zershar_Vemod on 3 March 2015 23:02House Nyssara (NA)
Black Market Traders
Order of the Lamp Post
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VR15 Nightblade Vampire0 -
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✭✭✭✭Well I have a crazy theory, probably borne of way too much caffeine last night.
I was looking at an old ad in another thread (the official regard & orc discussion thread) that shows a concept art/ad drawing of redgard lite, and it's really similar to the light that got nerfed.
The new stuff.... well, in general it lacks flair, cultural continuity - finally the thought hit me that "it was designed by someone else". Which got me wondering. I head (no good source so this would be way wrong) that many of ZOS' employees had to be let go.
Normally employees don't retain the rights to artistic creations made 'for a company' - but ZOS' startup really looks to have been facilitated by good industry contacts (i.e. how in the heck did a new company get such a great opportunity) ... so what if ... what if the condition for hire of one of the artists was to take his designs if s/he left?
Unlikely, very unlikely, but it would leave the company in question struggling (possibly against a time constraint) to come up with something to take the place of the original art/concepts. In that case I could be really sympathetic to that struggle, and I would want to say to the designer of the new stuff that it's not that your stuff is 'bad'; but its that your stuff .... needs more culture - and I wish I had better words than that.
I'm probably way off, but just a thought.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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✭In the not so olden days changes of this sort needed:
1. A sign off from the community manager.
2. Analytics data supporting it. If you're going to change a style, you start with one players use the least.
Somehow I do not believe either of those took place. If I'm wrong proving the first would be unprofessional of course, but showing us the data would not.
I got my gripes out of the way, deconstructed all effected pieces on all my characters on both servers the day after the patch and figured it was over with.
Problem is that now some quest NPCs use it...*sigh*0
