I believe I can fly..... but not after 1.6

Rylana

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Garion

I'm a sorc, don't have a DK... I think this is stupid. It was something that added a little variety to PvP. Kind of annoying all the QQ caused it to get nerfed.

DezIsDead

yeah i was really ok with dragon leaping into keeps. i had a problem with people nabbing scrolls in a non breached inner, but that was it. i mean they usually died or jumped back off anyway. it really wasnt a big deal

Lord_Draevan

Rylana wrote: »

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Certain people were using it to Dragon Leap over closed Gates to steal Scrolls, so ZOS changed it.

I'd give you the name of the Guild in question (who were openly bragging about it on a thread I made before it was deleted, FYI), but it's naming and shaming.

Cody

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

Lord_Draevan

Cody wrote: »

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

That, and leaping up unto keep walls, and also through the metal grate above the inner keep doors you pour oil through.

Columba

Unfortunately a few exploiters ruined this for honest players.

Ghostbane

I don't think pointing out a flaw in a polite tone is bragging. If you recall also, dragonleap and DK were not the only ability and class that could get across.

danno8

I have only seen it on occasion but obviously the potential for large groups of DK's leaping over keep walls to take objectives in half the normal time was there.

Lord_Draevan

It was hilarious how those in question were trying to make us believe "No no, it's not an exploit, it hasn't been fixed, so it's not an exploit!"
Then boom, 2 days after it's reported, fixed. Because it was indeed an exploit.
Hell, ZOS deleted the thread because explaining how to get through a closed Gate without capping the keeps is explaining how to use an exploit. Which those who used it knew damn well.

It was also funny how they kept claiming "Well we reported it and it wasn't fixed, not our fault". How odd that when I report the exploit, it gets fixed 2 days later. Likely because they never actually reported it

Rylana

I dont give a damn about scrolls, i just want to jump on that noob on the wall shooting at me and smack him around, make him aware of the danger

Isbilen

Cody wrote: »

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Certain people were using it to Dragon Leap over closed Gates to steal Scrolls, so ZOS changed it.

I'd give you the name of the Guild in question (who were openly bragging about it on a thread I made before it was deleted, FYI), but it's naming and shaming.

Yeah try doing that and see what happens, then come back and tell me when you've figured out how to survive that instant 10K damage hit from "Gate of X" that hits you literally 2 seconds after you press R on any gate.

Lord_Draevan

Rylana wrote: »

I dont give a damn about scrolls, i just want to jump on that noob on the wall shooting at me and smack him around, make him aware of the danger

Well, blame those who instead used it to get where they weren't supposed to go.
Though to be fair, ZOS could've instead installed an insta-kill barrier above the Gates instead.

Sharee

The comment about not being able to jump up keep walls was specifically placed in the section describing changes to the Ferocious leap morph(and not in the section describing changes to Take flight). I wonder if that means anything.

Columba

Isbilen wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Certain people were using it to Dragon Leap over closed Gates to steal Scrolls, so ZOS changed it.

I'd give you the name of the Guild in question (who were openly bragging about it on a thread I made before it was deleted, FYI), but it's naming and shaming.

Yeah try doing that and see what happens, then come back and tell me when you've figured out how to survive that 10K hit from "Gate of X".

They DID survive it.

Lord_Draevan

Isbilen wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Certain people were using it to Dragon Leap over closed Gates to steal Scrolls, so ZOS changed it.

I'd give you the name of the Guild in question (who were openly bragging about it on a thread I made before it was deleted, FYI), but it's naming and shaming.

Yeah try doing that and see what happens, then come back and tell me when you've figured out how to survive that 10K hit from "Gate of X".

Except that ability is cast by the Menders up there. If you kill them all simultaneously (as the exploiters in question explained in detail in their post), you don't die, or only 1-2 people do.
Also according to them, if you're Emp and have the right buffs, you can just barely survive the attack. Or so they claim, that last one sounded fishy to me.

Rylana

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I dont give a damn about scrolls, i just want to jump on that noob on the wall shooting at me and smack him around, make him aware of the danger

Well, blame those who instead used it to get where they weren't supposed to go.
Though to be fair, ZOS could've instead installed an insta-kill barrier above the Gates instead.

They did though, havent you been reading the thread? Its been like that for months.

Rylana

Sharee wrote: »

The comment about not being able to jump up keep walls was specifically placed in the section describing changes to the Ferocious leap morph(and not in the section describing changes to Take flight). I wonder if that means anything.

>______>

I shall look into this. Perhaps not all is lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43KirCJgrK0

Isbilen

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Except that ability is cast by the Menders up there. If you kill them all simultaneously (as the exploiters in question explained in detail in their post), you don't die, or only 1-2 people do.
Also according to them, if you're Emp and have the right buffs, you can just barely survive the attack. Or so they claim, that last one sounded fishy to me.

Maybe they did it this way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBOwDT0pNYk

And Zenimax don't worry, you already fixed this bug so no need to remove this post.

DaggerfallTradeMasters

Imo dragon leap was the only bit of variety of fighting... some little bit of melee fights on the wall now there is no way for that anymore...
I really hope they will add siege towers or ropes or stuff like that

Lhorion

I am sure they just fixed jumping in NPCs, trust in Zenimax that they were not able to fix jumping on players!

Reverb

Rylana wrote: »

I dont give a damn about scrolls, i just want to jump on that noob on the wall shooting at me and smack him around, make him aware of the danger

I too want you to still be able to do this.

Lhorion wrote: »

trust in Zenimax

Thank you for this. I don't remember the last time I laughed so much before I even finished my coffee. You made my day.

Lhorion

@Reverb‌
No problem, I hope you know I was joking and laughing about the same thing at the same time.

Roselle

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Isbilen wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Certain people were using it to Dragon Leap over closed Gates to steal Scrolls, so ZOS changed it.

I'd give you the name of the Guild in question (who were openly bragging about it on a thread I made before it was deleted, FYI), but it's naming and shaming.

Yeah try doing that and see what happens, then come back and tell me when you've figured out how to survive that 10K hit from "Gate of X".

Except that ability is cast by the Menders up there. If you kill them all simultaneously (as the exploiters in question explained in detail in their post), you don't die, or only 1-2 people do.
Also according to them, if you're Emp and have the right buffs, you can just barely survive the attack. Or so they claim, that last one sounded fishy to me.

You really need to let this scenario go. You do realize this is just a game and no actual laws were broken or no harm to your family was taken, right?

Armitas

Lets all take a moment and give thanks to those DK's that selfishly abused this ability on scrolls and got it nerfed for everyone. May they stand among the same heroes that got chains nerfed and broken for us all.

Darklord_Tiberius

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It was hilarious how those in question were trying to make us believe "No no, it's not an exploit, it hasn't been fixed, so it's not an exploit!"
Then boom, 2 days after it's reported, fixed. Because it was indeed an exploit.
Hell, ZOS deleted the thread because explaining how to get through a closed Gate without capping the keeps is explaining how to use an exploit. Which those who used it knew damn well.

It was also funny how they kept claiming "Well we reported it and it wasn't fixed, not our fault". How odd that when I report the exploit, it gets fixed 2 days later. Likely because they never actually reported it

We talking about those AD guilds? lol

Columba

Rosella -
True, but not of this justifies exploits.

riverdragon72

Rylana wrote: »

I dont give a damn about scrolls, i just want to jump on that noob on the wall shooting at me and smack him around, make him aware of the danger

I already have enough incentive to leave the game, this is just one more.

Lord_Draevan

Roselle wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Isbilen wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

I'm sure people got tired of DKs leaping behind closed gates and stealing scrolls

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

They took away my leap

Why you do dis.

Certain people were using it to Dragon Leap over closed Gates to steal Scrolls, so ZOS changed it.

I'd give you the name of the Guild in question (who were openly bragging about it on a thread I made before it was deleted, FYI), but it's naming and shaming.

Yeah try doing that and see what happens, then come back and tell me when you've figured out how to survive that 10K hit from "Gate of X".

Except that ability is cast by the Menders up there. If you kill them all simultaneously (as the exploiters in question explained in detail in their post), you don't die, or only 1-2 people do.
Also according to them, if you're Emp and have the right buffs, you can just barely survive the attack. Or so they claim, that last one sounded fishy to me.

You really need to let this scenario go. You do realize this is just a game and no actual laws were broken or no harm to your family was taken, right?

So I'm not allowed to be happy that an exploit was removed? But mooooommmm...
Mainly because I love when people who are so smugly sure they're right are proven wrong. I wish I could have a picture of their faces when they find out it's been fixed

Lord_Draevan

Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It was hilarious how those in question were trying to make us believe "No no, it's not an exploit, it hasn't been fixed, so it's not an exploit!"
Then boom, 2 days after it's reported, fixed. Because it was indeed an exploit.
Hell, ZOS deleted the thread because explaining how to get through a closed Gate without capping the keeps is explaining how to use an exploit. Which those who used it knew damn well.

It was also funny how they kept claiming "Well we reported it and it wasn't fixed, not our fault". How odd that when I report the exploit, it gets fixed 2 days later. Likely because they never actually reported it

We talking about those AD guilds? lol

Roselle

Bugs or exploits are discovered through testing and reporting, which is what was done. You may not like the most recent party involved, but is it worth talking about so much?

From what I've seen discussed before, there have been (and probably will be) people abusing or messing with other abilities plenty and the abilities involved generally end up needing some adjustment.

I don't consider the recent events really worth so much angst, honestly. It's over, changed, done with, etc. The game will be quite different soon enough and we may see many more significant changes after that in the future.