I'd be okay with this. But it'd be nice to get some official confirmation.Probably a dumb question, but: If and when the Veteran System is scrapped in favor of the Champion System, will we be still be able to get the Golden Saint, Seducer, and Mannimarco Costumes?
This is coming from someone with a busy life due to my job but loves this game, so I still haven't managed to make much headway towards Veteran Ranks, and I'd hate to miss out on them.
Perhaps tie them to a certain number of champion points earned on the character instead?
I love this game, but reading "stay tuned for update X and keep sending us your money" is really disheartening. Especially considering the current state of abilities that are heavily bugged, in all classes but worse as a Nightblade. I'm finding more and more that I'm having less interest in playing, mostly because it seems that developers are not perceptive at providing accurate and balanced skills and combat. I understand devs want to go slow, but the snail's pace needs a kick in the ass and booster rockets. Spell crit and melee crit should be incorporated into just Crit, for starters. I haven't canceled my sub yet, the loyalty program doesn't interest me in the slightest, but after this vague update on the game I'm closer to doing it.
Would you rather they didn't detail their future plans in such detail to give us paying subscribers such a clear picture of what the game is going to become? ZOS set a goal to release major new content every 4-6 weeks, like many other MMO devs. The difference is that ZOS have actually managed to consistently achieve that goal.
If you don't feel like they're adding enough new content to justify your subscription I have to wonder if any MMO could please you in that department.
In the future, we plan to add some kind of incentive for helping us test new content, so keep your eyes open for details.
I could not have said it better myself. This is exactly how I feel.I am a realist.
I deal in facts and base my comments on experience.
That being said, I am concerned about the state of this game.
I see content being pushed out to appease the mass and I see attempted bug fixes that create more issues, and the core systems are still not working properly, and are unbalanced.
I know all this is necessary in the evaluation of the game. I am also aware, with this community, you will never please everyone.
Lets talk about one of our most valued asset in life: Our Money. $15.00 a month is a lot of money to someone who is struggling. Most of us are willing to give you our money, if we see value added results. The real question here is: Is our money being invested being spent appropriately and is the content being published worth our $15.00?
In my opinion, there is a lot of content in development, a lot of new content being pushed out and the old stuff is still not fixed. I feel like my money is being used to create layers of smoke and mirrors to keep subscribers. I feel like it is more about the money than it is about the player and more importantly the game. I see non committal timelines, I see avoided questions and ignored issues.
When a Game Industry walks down that path, there is no turning back.
I caution you, if you continue down this path it will not end favorably. I can list in troves the number of games I have played over the 20+ years that have failed due to this mentality.
Some of the developers care, and it is apparent.
I think it could and should be managed more professionally.
Be a professional and address problems. Show us that our money is be invested, and wisely. Show us a list of things you are working on and an expected time of completion. In the professional world that is how it is done. If I walked into my bosses office and said - some of the things that have been said here, I would not be a Senior NCO or Adviser. I would be relieved of my duties for dereliction and incompetence. I know this is not the Military; but I ask you, do your subscribers deserve any less of a professional courtesy?
I have lead men and women into combat several times and I have been a manager of many major projects.
This is not how you manage.
You have Team Leads.
Hold them to a Standard.
Hold them Accountable.
Have them create a Top Ten List and publish that list, for each section; with expected completion dates.
Let the community set your priorities.
If there are issues, immediately let the community know, so they are not shocked.
Let the player base know you are working on their concerns and care.
I would even take it a step further and assign a name to a project or item on the list...so that person can be praised for their efforts.
Take responsibility and ownership, that is what a Professional does.
I am a realist.
I deal in facts and base my comments on experience.
That being said, I am concerned about the state of this game.
I see content being pushed out to appease the mass and I see attempted bug fixes that create more issues, and the core systems are still not working properly, and are unbalanced.
I know all this is necessary in the evaluation of the game. I am also aware, with this community, you will never please everyone.
Lets talk about one of our most valued asset in life: Our Money. $15.00 a month is a lot of money to someone who is struggling. Most of us are willing to give you our money, if we see value added results. The real question here is: Is our money being invested being spent appropriately and is the content being published worth our $15.00?
In my opinion, there is a lot of content in development, a lot of new content being pushed out and the old stuff is still not fixed. I feel like my money is being used to create layers of smoke and mirrors to keep subscribers. I feel like it is more about the money than it is about the player and more importantly the game. I see non committal timelines, I see avoided questions and ignored issues.
When a Game Industry walks down that path, there is no turning back.
I caution you, if you continue down this path it will not end favorably. I can list in troves the number of games I have played over the 20+ years that have failed due to this mentality.
Take responsibility and ownership, that is what a Professional does.
.Take responsibility and ownership, that is what a Professional does
Boomjackal wrote: »@cogo As an ex military man myself from one ex solider to another that garbage that you just wrote is as i said GARBAGE. Transparency in a company is the most important thing to sucess and admitting when you are wrong or have made a mistake. Please take your head from Corperate but cheeks please thats how this world is in this mess. You remind me of a wallstreet banker.
To many this game was mis-sold as on the back of the case it tells you the minimum and recomended system requirements to play this game and the majority of players exceed these requirements but cant play a decent game of PVP because of the aweful coding.
@Cogo
Brother, that is a lot of words to say you disagree with what I said.
I can't deny those words were spoken and written, as I have heard and read them as well. I like many other people signed on and jumped on board with the program because of those words and amazing videos. A lot of Smoke and Mirrors.
As a Ex-Military Man (Thank you for your Service, and standing on the line with me, when you were called), you know it is not about words...it is all about results.
Do you feel this game is where it should be?
Do you feel there is balance in the classes?
Do you still run through the the game / quests and see things not working - Since Beta?
I could go on...but I won't because I already know the answer.
I did not write this to complain, I wrote it because I care and wanted to offer a solution, a possible way to help get things on the right path.
I respect and honor your opinion and passion for this game.
I love it as well, or I would not be doing this...I want it to succeed and I want it to thrive.
I am tired of watching title after title fall due to poor management and not taking care of the small details.
As you know it is the small details that will make or break an operation or program, and it is breaking this one...in my opinion.
Why are people leaving?
Why are people complaining, and are their complaints valid?
You do not have to answer...I already know the answer, it is found all over these forums...the community is crying out...
We need to stop the open chest wound, and not with band-aids , smoke and mirrors we have been seeing....
One final note and I am moving on...
If what they were doing was working, would I even need to write this?
I am tired of watching title after title fall due to poor management and not taking care of the small details.
I did not write this to complain, I wrote it because I care and wanted to offer a solution, a possible way to help get things on the right path.
@Pantherin
Not to be inflammatory, but how is military service directly related to MMO management..? I come from a military family, and I have respect for the job, but I fail to see how a military occupation gives your opinion more clout than anyone else's in this particular area. If anything, the hyperbolic comparisons of 'open chest wound' to the current issues makes me take you less seriously.
To answer your question: people are complaining because they CAN. It's the internet, after all, the realm of anonymous ego-inflating and entitlement-touting. Not to say your points are not valid, but a lot of people whine because they have too much spare time and a serious lack of perspective. ESO has been out for less than half a year. Did you play WoW in the first six months after release? It was a crapshoot! I find myself agreeing with @Cogo in that ZoS does seem to be addressing some of the larger problems, if in their slow, cautious way. They care enough to think things through and, personally, I really appreciate that quality.
That said, you have the right to your opinion and I really do hope the game delivers for you someday soon.
When things go great, folks are praised and rewarded, and when things go wrong, they are pulled aside and shown how they can improve...with positive reinforcement.
All the elements are there...You just have to know what you are looking for and what you want those end results to be.
I can only use the experience I have as a Soldier as a basis, that is all I have ever known. It was not an attempt to gather clout, but more of an attempt to show whom ever would read and listen a possible way to put the developers back on the right path. A method that has been tested time and time again...and produces results.
We call it the Military Decision Making Process (MDMP) and if you have been through it, you would know it is painful, long, detailed, intense and it works...period.
I could see a Corporation greatly benefiting from such a process...and highly recommend they seek out the training. It will improve anyone's management capability.
Obviously, what they are doing is not working, and it is time to do something different before it is too late.
To many crybabies that are paying 15 dollars a month to play a beta at best really.then you contact them with a in game problem at it is like you are a bother.you pay my 15dollars a month and everyone else that is having problems and they will not cry again but when you play 60-80 dollars for a game and 15 dollars a month you want a playable game not a alpha or beta game a finished game and this game is still far from finished.Items in the guild bank do not stack cant use group finder and if you try to make a group you lose leader and have to start all over things that have been in games for over a decade but not they add color dyes and fix the lighting in build and other stupid stuff before fixing tools that people WOULD and do use or try to use EVERYDAY.that is why they have lost over 1.5 Million people so far and lots more leaving everyday.Darkonflare15 wrote: »No one ruining your gear but I love the idea of loyalty program. There is too many crybaby people ending their subs too quick. It would be nice have something to symbolize that you have been here for a long time even if just aesthetically.Road2insanity777 wrote: »What a joke... how about pushing core game mechanics over aesthetics & ruining everyone's gear. just a though....
Awesome!
I want to add a very wierd complaint. As well as my thanks to Zenimax for proving ESO works and keeps to their plan.
Zenimax have done outstanding work with armor passives, phasing, questing and general bug fixing in game.
WHY are you not saying anything about these more or less fantastic improvements? I wouldn't mind if a Zeni com manager answer this.
The balance Zenimax have done in the past month has more or less balanced the previous problems with only players "in robes with a stick". Sure, there is more to do, but WHY not say anything when you do these really good changes?
Are you guys not Americans? Brag! (I am Swedish, we are too meek to brag)
Psst, regarding the EU server, Its getting crowded in the game and that causes server lag, which is fixable with added resources. The game is very stable. More players equals more resources! Do not let the "suits" stop you from expanding.
This summery proves to me that ESO is here to stay and have created a "new" Type of MMO, as stated, announced and delivered. Even through huge criticism from all kinds of directions. I can only explain this with one word "Bold".
- Its very ensuring that Zenimax keeps to their plan, not doing anything in haste, but in tweaks and work as much as possible before they release new "content", as promised every 4-6 weeks. I rather wait a week and get a well designed justice system, then rush it and get unknown effects.
- Since the content is included in the subscription, I as a customer, really feel I am getting a lot for the subscription and feel secure in future additions.
- Would it not make sense to put the justice system AND Imperial City in the same Patch? I am sure there are reasons why these are separated.
- I suspect that the big project of making the Champion system balanced and work in the long term (Like EQ AA did very well) is a big reason behind it, and understandable. This is not an easy request, but may be worth considering, since the 2 systems will not interfear with eachother. (Or maybe they will?)
- The thieves guild was always said to be implemented in game when then justice system is in place. Even though this makes perfect sense, I do feel, however, that the Thieves guild should get priority since its a very welcomed and anticipated "content" from more or less the whole ESO community.
- The delay of the thieves guild, I can also understand is connected to how the Champion system will work. (new skills to consider. Balance.)
- As a player who played since launch, I am very happy with ESO and Zenimax management of the MMO. Keep it up!
DyingBreed wrote: »Awesome!
I want to add a very wierd complaint. As well as my thanks to Zenimax for proving ESO works and keeps to their plan.
Zenimax have done outstanding work with armor passives, phasing, questing and general bug fixing in game.
WHY are you not saying anything about these more or less fantastic improvements? I wouldn't mind if a Zeni com manager answer this.
The balance Zenimax have done in the past month has more or less balanced the previous problems with only players "in robes with a stick". Sure, there is more to do, but WHY not say anything when you do these really good changes?
Are you guys not Americans? Brag! (I am Swedish, we are too meek to brag)
Psst, regarding the EU server, Its getting crowded in the game and that causes server lag, which is fixable with added resources. The game is very stable. More players equals more resources! Do not let the "suits" stop you from expanding.
This summery proves to me that ESO is here to stay and have created a "new" Type of MMO, as stated, announced and delivered. Even through huge criticism from all kinds of directions. I can only explain this with one word "Bold".
- Its very ensuring that Zenimax keeps to their plan, not doing anything in haste, but in tweaks and work as much as possible before they release new "content", as promised every 4-6 weeks. I rather wait a week and get a well designed justice system, then rush it and get unknown effects.
- Since the content is included in the subscription, I as a customer, really feel I am getting a lot for the subscription and feel secure in future additions.
- Would it not make sense to put the justice system AND Imperial City in the same Patch? I am sure there are reasons why these are separated.
- I suspect that the big project of making the Champion system balanced and work in the long term (Like EQ AA did very well) is a big reason behind it, and understandable. This is not an easy request, but may be worth considering, since the 2 systems will not interfear with eachother. (Or maybe they will?)
- The thieves guild was always said to be implemented in game when then justice system is in place. Even though this makes perfect sense, I do feel, however, that the Thieves guild should get priority since its a very welcomed and anticipated "content" from more or less the whole ESO community.
- The delay of the thieves guild, I can also understand is connected to how the Champion system will work. (new skills to consider. Balance.)
- As a player who played since launch, I am very happy with ESO and Zenimax management of the MMO. Keep it up!
Just keep the blinders on because you are paying for a beta game along with the other 3 that agreed.
DyingBreed wrote: »Just keep the blinders on because you are paying for a beta game along with the other 3 that agreed.