starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »No we do not need to nerf reflective scales because ... I can't understand the OP's rant? well enough to figure out why he wants it nerfed. It gets tiring for those of us who mainly play PvE getting screwed by a nerf because a PvPer got beaten in a fight with that ability, and then crys for it to be nerfed instead of learning how to defend against it. <(run-on sentence, I know) . Somehow, in this case, I think the OP is claiming they feel too powerful when using those abilities. OK, so don't use that combo if one thinks it's too easy. Odds are, it's not a single ability that needs to be nerfed, but rather the dynamic of how those abilities work togather needs to be changed.
starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »No we do not need to nerf reflective scales because ... I can't understand the OP's rant? well enough to figure out why he wants it nerfed. It gets tiring for those of us who mainly play PvE getting screwed by a nerf because a PvPer got beaten in a fight with that ability, and then crys for it to be nerfed instead of learning how to defend against it. <(run-on sentence, I know) . Somehow, in this case, I think the OP is claiming they feel too powerful when using those abilities. OK, so don't use that combo if one thinks it's too easy. Odds are, it's not a single ability that needs to be nerfed, but rather the dynamic of how those abilities work togather needs to be changed.
I can somewhat understand people crying for the nerf, but really it has more to do with people not being able to use restraint against a Scale DK. I am a DK and was in a pretty intense duel with a Sorc recently. Once he saw the wings, he stopped using projectiles and started using Streak offensively to stun me and used Curse or whatever it is. I ended up winning with ~5% health, but he was one of the few players I've ever come in contact with that actually knew what he was doing. Scales is easy to see, and restraint + keeping composure + knowing your tools will allow you to counter it.
I can somewhat understand people crying for the nerf, but really it has more to do with people not being able to use restraint against a Scale DK. I am a DK and was in a pretty intense duel with a Sorc recently. Once he saw the wings, he stopped using projectiles and started using Streak offensively to stun me and used Curse or whatever it is. I ended up winning with ~5% health, but he was one of the few players I've ever come in contact with that actually knew what he was doing. Scales is easy to see, and restraint + keeping composure + knowing your tools will allow you to counter it.
demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »But the rest of the players just want to keep spamming the few skills that scales can actually reflect then come cry when they die from it....
starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »No we do not need to nerf reflective scales because ... I can't understand the OP's rant? well enough to figure out why he wants it nerfed. It gets tiring for those of us who mainly play PvE getting screwed by a nerf because a PvPer got beaten in a fight with that ability, and then crys for it to be nerfed instead of learning how to defend against it. <(run-on sentence, I know) . Somehow, in this case, I think the OP is claiming they feel too powerful when using those abilities. OK, so don't use that combo if one thinks it's too easy. Odds are, it's not a single ability that needs to be nerfed, but rather the dynamic of how those abilities work togather needs to be changed.
I can somewhat understand people crying for the nerf, but really it has more to do with people not being able to use restraint against a Scale DK. I am a DK and was in a pretty intense duel with a Sorc recently. Once he saw the wings, he stopped using projectiles and started using Streak offensively to stun me and used Curse or whatever it is. I ended up winning with ~5% health, but he was one of the few players I've ever come in contact with that actually knew what he was doing. Scales is easy to see, and restraint + keeping composure + knowing your tools will allow you to counter it.
david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »
I can somewhat understand people crying for the nerf, but really it has more to do with people not being able to use restraint against a Scale DK. I am a DK and was in a pretty intense duel with a Sorc recently. Once he saw the wings, he stopped using projectiles and started using Streak offensively to stun me and used Curse or whatever it is. I ended up winning with ~5% health, but he was one of the few players I've ever come in contact with that actually knew what he was doing. Scales is easy to see, and restraint + keeping composure + knowing your tools will allow you to counter it.
In a duel, sure. It is easy to see, though if you don't slot a counter to it, you are in trouble. But where it really becomes a problem is in big battles. Which DK was it that popped his scales? Hard to see when there are so many of them, and you are trying to dodge Talon and Invasion spam. I'm not entirely disagreeing with you, just saying that in the chaos of battle, an ability that requires other players to identify you, track you and have the counter to you on their bar is really quite powerful. Combine that with an AoE CC and a bugged stunlock with Talons/Invasion, and you are requiring someone to constantly play defense and exercise restraint in a way that few other classes can match. It definitely does seem like the DK still has the advantage.
Welcome to every single MMO where there is PvP. It is very unfortunate that in most cases crying bads win over the devs to get things nerfed that negatively effect PvE also. I'm not saying the OP is one of them, but we all know it happens with regularity. People these days just want to face roll everything they see and when they can't they cry for NERFS. Now, everyone will admit at times certain abilities are found to be ridiculously OP and in need of a balance pass but this is much less often the case.starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »It gets tiring for those of us who mainly play PvE getting screwed by a nerf because a PvPer got beaten in a fight with that ability, and then crys for it to be nerfed instead of learning how to defend against it. <(run-on sentence, I know)
demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »No we do not need to nerf reflective scales because ... I can't understand the OP's rant? well enough to figure out why he wants it nerfed. It gets tiring for those of us who mainly play PvE getting screwed by a nerf because a PvPer got beaten in a fight with that ability, and then crys for it to be nerfed instead of learning how to defend against it. <(run-on sentence, I know) . Somehow, in this case, I think the OP is claiming they feel too powerful when using those abilities. OK, so don't use that combo if one thinks it's too easy. Odds are, it's not a single ability that needs to be nerfed, but rather the dynamic of how those abilities work togather needs to be changed.
I can somewhat understand people crying for the nerf, but really it has more to do with people not being able to use restraint against a Scale DK. I am a DK and was in a pretty intense duel with a Sorc recently. Once he saw the wings, he stopped using projectiles and started using Streak offensively to stun me and used Curse or whatever it is. I ended up winning with ~5% health, but he was one of the few players I've ever come in contact with that actually knew what he was doing. Scales is easy to see, and restraint + keeping composure + knowing your tools will allow you to counter it.
But the rest of the players just want to keep spamming the few skills that scales can actually reflect then come cry when they die from it....
kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »Well if you cant use your brain when you see a dk casting his fluffy wings well dont blame the dk.
orxan.qayibovb16_ESO wrote: »After test whith
DK
set Resilient Yokeda + Whitestrakes
Reflective Scale + vamp ult + same save skill
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I can say with absolute certainty We have GOD MODE, I can not even imagine who cope with imperor DK maybe 20 or more ppl can do, but without imperor 5 ppl easy in pvp. Sadly I did not have time to make the test in pve, if there are willing to, we can arrange a test for pvp and make video
demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »But the rest of the players just want to keep spamming the few skills that scales can actually reflect then come cry when they die from it....
Exactly what I gathered. "Their spamming is effecting my spamming, make them stop!"
As a VR1 templar, I find it quite amusing that a DK (the most OP class) asks for a Templar (the weakest class) skill to be nerfed. This is just hilarious. Dude, templar is the weakest class in the game, and it even has its own dev thread where they are posting about their efforts to fix the class. As it is now, Templar appears to be designed to be an ok healer (see magicka problems) and subpar dps/tank. I'm sorry to say this, but you seem to suffer from a l2p issue. Really. (A sarcastic hint: use your god mode?)I could also say something about Temps who spam Biting Jabs and literally stun lock me for 8 seconds straight so that I can't do anything but stand and die... I've found myself in that situation a number of times lately and it's very frustrating when you simply don't have a chance of surviving. A stun cooldown would be nice. But I'll stop the rant there.
I think ZOS needs to take a look at the number of abilities reflective scale is effective against.