Are you going to play past this sub round if the FPS issue persists?

Saet

No, I already unsubbed

I hated to do it but I just handed over my guild leader rank and unsubbed. If its fixed soon I'll return. I love PVP in this game even with its balance issues and such but the FPS issues are just tedious and make me want to smash things. Soo I smashed the unsub button!

tigerblood

No, I already unsubbed

Cyrodiil was my main interest. Everything else was to build up my experience there.

All of the effort to level every craft to max level (more or less) for nothing. It was and investment so I could play a couple years knowing I had all the gear I could want. It was not fun to level.

I'm afraid the investors find it more profitable to pump the game up to get us exited about it and then dump it and run off to some other investment. I can't trust a developer with a preorder after this.

Columba

No, I already unsubbed

sadly, unlike the other failures, this one will go down as one that was well designed but horribly executed. the technical people who launched this should be marked for the remainder of their inept careers.

indytims_ESO

Yes, I get no or few FPS issues ever

Wife and I rarely experience any FPS issues, and we're still having fun.

When it comes down to it, FPS issues or not, that's the bottom line.

Are you having fun? Enjoy!

Not having fun? Cancel and move on with yourself. Life is too short.

Mancuso

Yes, I'm casual and I don't care

Yes, I'm a subscriber and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

I swear... the instant gratification, drive-through crowd never ceases to amaze. At the risk of overusing a cliche: First world consumer problems.

They're working on the problem; get over it; they'll fix the problem. And, I assure you, if the fix was a simplistic as what was outlined then it would have been fixed. As an IT veteran, it's a classic, rookie mistake to state, "look, it's just this" and find that it's only that. Extrapolating a bit from Jessica's feedback, they "fix" one thing it breaks another. Systematically flushing buffers and dumping VRAM is the cleansing of the laceration - the result - to limit infection rather than decimate the knife-wielder - the cause.

If I jumped ship each and every time something went wrong with any product or service, I would spend most of my time in the water. Though I realize and appreciate that it's the principle of the issue, screaming about a subscription fee (and demanding compensation) strike me as disingenuous regarding the intensity of the problem.

There's risk/reward in every purchase/action - this is no different. There are few things in this world (jokes aside) that can provide as much on-demand enjoyment for less than $16 a month. Hell, the wife and I spend more on Netflix and Amazon Instant Video than we do this game and we utilize them sporadically at best with limited enjoyment.

For those of you new to the MMO/gaming world, trust me when I say that the problem we're seeing is infinitesimal compared to what other games have experienced. Over the past 15 years, having played games such as The Realm Online, Ultima Online, EverQuest I and II (brief), World of Warcraft (up to Pandaria), Lord of the Rings (brief), Age of Conan (brief), Rift, Aion (brief), Guild Wars II, and Dark Age of Camelot (my best years and best PvP/RvR...) this continues to be the overall best launch I've ever experienced. Period and paragraph.

At the risk of turning this into a "I walked uphill, both ways" post, most of the games cited above took MANY months (or years) to achieve the level cap or reach a point where such problems occurred. There were no forums (unless you counted Prodigy or AOL), no developer feedback, no community guru(s)... nothing. We had only customer support via phone from 9-5 or in-game trouble tickets at the very best.

If you feel that a recent reduction of frame rate in Cyrodiil constitutes the cancelling of your subscription, then so be it; I think it's ridiculously premature, especially for a game that you claim to have been enjoying until now. Cyrodiil IS the end-game and should be, and Zenimax knows this. Read a book, work on crafting, make an alt, go outside, do something other than agonize over it.

EDIT: I leveled from 40 to VR3 in Cyrodiil, so it's not as if I haven't experienced what's being described here.

Grim13

No, I already unsubbed

Armitas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

dcincali wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

This is non sequitur.
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Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.

Read what you just wrote... and with that in mind, reread what you wrote earlier:

What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

That is an explanation not based on assumption, but an explanation based on a actual comment made by ZOS which is also why I quoted it.

You've assumed the quote is more than PR.

No it is your added assumption that it is only PR.

Since you seem to be pushing a moot point without knowing it I think you should refresh yourself on occams razor. It does not say the explanation without any assumption but rather the explanation with the least assumptions.

The explanation with the least assumptions is that it's PR.

Xsorus

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Permafrost wrote: »

I unsubbed. I'm giving them until Thursday to change my mind and make me renew or I'm done. This reeks of SB.EXE ERROR.

Another former Shadowbaner I see.

SB was more stable than this most days.

Yea that completely false....

That's so False Fox news is face palming that ***

wllstrt75b14_ESO

No, I already unsubbed

dcincali wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

Yes zeni has implemented the wet paper towel plan...lets wet some paper towels and throw them at a wall and hope one sticks....

DemonNinja

No, I already unsubbed

Very nice. For those of you that are math impaired so far that's over 570 bucks a month out of their monthly income, just think about the amount that they have lost based on those who don't participate in the forums. You know us vocal minorities...

Tintinabula

No, I already unsubbed

I think 79% of people who took this poll cant be ignored..perhaps we can.Ive mentioned this before..perhaps ZOS is forcing attrition for a new player base..who knows.

RedTalon

Yes, I get no or few FPS issues ever

I haven't gotten the FPS issue for over a month even in large battles.

quakedawg_ESO

Don't forget to delete your characters and uninstall! Leave the forums (you can always rage in the mirror).





If a tree falls in the forest ...

TRIP233

Yes, if they add a satisfactory amount of game time to compensate

The FPS issue isn't just in Cyrodiil. I couldn't even play in Daggerfall Vet 8 zone because the lag and the FPS issue was so bad. My FPS has been between 6 and 10 for the past 2 weeks.

tigerblood

No, I already unsubbed

People want there money's worth.




The squeaky wheel gets the grease...

TheBull

Yes, I get no or few FPS issues ever

I'm basically ok Not perfect like pre 1.2, but doable. I had to relog twice today for fps issues. Other than that low fps was almost unnoticeable.

Good news is server side lag is gone!

freida

Yes, if they add a satisfactory amount of game time to compensate

Only reason I'm still subbed is because I bought 3 months at release. ESO right now reminds me of a number of Funcom games. Great game with a lot of promise but let down by mountain of game breaking bugs and exploits. I don't think there has been a single patch that went smoothly without a long list of things breaking.

wasihasi

I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).

I bought 180 days - so I have some time left. For me it is a must that Zenimax fix it soon - Actual I level my twinks.... I hope they fix it before my chars are all V12 ...

Prospero_ESO

No, I already unsubbed

bbowling1776b14_ESO wrote: »

For those of you new to the MMO/gaming world, trust me when I say that the problem we're seeing is infinitesimal compared to what other games have experienced. Over the past 15 years, having played games such as The Realm Online, Ultima Online, EverQuest I and II (brief), World of Warcraft (up to Pandaria), Lord of the Rings (brief), Age of Conan (brief), Rift, Aion (brief), Guild Wars II, and Dark Age of Camelot (my best years and best PvP/RvR...) this continues to be the overall best launch I've ever experienced. Period and paragraph.

If ESO was one of the better launches you experienced well i pitty you. In my experience it was one of the crappiest. And i played a lot if games you played, Lord of the Rings for example had no issues going from beta to live and comparing that to ESO is a joke.

bbowling1776b14_ESO wrote: »

If you feel that a recent reduction of frame rate in Cyrodiil constitutes the cancelling of your subscription, then so be it; I think it's ridiculously premature, especially for a game that you claim to have been enjoying until now. Cyrodiil IS the end-game and should be. Read a book, work on crafting, make an alt, go outside, do something other than agonize over it.

I think you simply don´t understand the issue, but people play at very low frame rates. some down to 4, myself at 8. I don´t know if you have a clue how a game looks and feels with frames that low, especially in pvp. You can´t even see effects like bat swarm at all for example, so sometimes in the mid of a fight you die without a chance to react. Maybe that´s fun for you, but to call people ridiculously premature when they cancel a subscription for a game which they can´t play on a reasonable level is ridiculously stupid.

Raizin

No, I already unsubbed

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

dcincali wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Pretty much. They're disabling certain effects one by one. My advice to them would be to test their code. It's a crazy idea I came up with while super-stoned.

best

Vis

I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).

Honestly, I have already unsubbed this evening.

But less for the fps issues and more because of ZOS's extremely unresponsive attitude towards known exploiters, hackers, and abusers. I can be patient as bugs are fixed, but I can't play a game where cheaters run free and without fear.

Mods have made their assurances, but I have spoken with the cheaters and they are not banned or afraid of ZOS.

My sub still has 3 months left. I am going to take a short break and come back later to see if anything has been done about it.

PS For all you exploiting/abusing ez-moders, the new broken mechanic of the day is spamming necrotic orbs. You're welcome.

Phaistos

No, I already unsubbed

I have already unsubbed. At the moment the game I want to play is unplayable.
I'm pretty annoyed by the lack of communication in solving the massive problems, and I'm not only talking about technical issues.

I'm not paying good money and be unable to play for 3 out of 4 weeks payment periods, not if ZOS isn't even making a feeble attempt at compensation.

I'm sure given time the game will become very stable and fun to play for many.
But not right now and I don't pay for unfinished trash. Simple economics.

Armitas

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

dcincali wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

This is non sequitur.
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Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.

Read what you just wrote... and with that in mind, reread what you wrote earlier:

What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

That is an explanation not based on assumption, but an explanation based on a actual comment made by ZOS which is also why I quoted it.

You've assumed the quote is more than PR.

No it is your added assumption that it is only PR.

Since you seem to be pushing a moot point without knowing it I think you should refresh yourself on occams razor. It does not say the explanation without any assumption but rather the explanation with the least assumptions.

The explanation with the least assumptions is that it's PR.

That it is what it is requires the least assumptions. That it isn't what it is but specifically X requires more. Your explanation, besides being baseless speculation and wrong, is shaved off.

And further to the point I made.

We understand and respect the frustration in regards to the performance issues. We have our Engineering and QA teams currently working on tracking down and testing several things that we believe are contributing to the problem. This is a bit of a nebulous issue, as it has several contributing factors. Each time we nail down a contributing factor and fix it, we push that fix live. We promise to continue to keep you updated, and we do apologize that the issue is still persisting.

It was exactly like I said. Reason and rationality triumphs again. It's time for you to start joining in that celebration with the rest of us.