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Are you going to play past this sub round if the FPS issue persists?

Halrloprillalar
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Most pre-order and day 1 subs are coming up to renew soon. The FPS issue seems to not have been fixed. For those people primarily focused on the pvp (and raiding, e.g. trials, which also seems to be affected), this means a make or break point. So the question is, are you still going to play ESO next month even with little in the way of changes to this issue?
Edited by Halrloprillalar on 7 July 2014 20:23

Are you going to play past this sub round if the FPS issue persists? 131 votes

No, I already unsubbed
41%
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Yes, I get no or few FPS issues ever
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Yes, I'm casual and I don't care
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Yes, if they add a satisfactory amount of game time to compensate
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I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).
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  • Mahbub
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    I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).
    Got 14 days left, after that it's game over.
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  • Armitas
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    I am not casual, and I do care about the FPS because it affects me greatly. I am keeping my sub because I can find no credible reason to believe that they are not taking this issue seriously. I enjoyed the game before the fps was broken and it is reasonable to believe I will still enjoy it when it is fixed.

    Cancelling my sub would only inhibit their resources in fixing the problem. In my opinion that would be counter productive in getting the issue fixed.

    I am as frustrated and impatient about this as the next person (0.9fps) but I have more reason to wait then to give up.

    Keeping my sub.
    Edited by Armitas on 7 July 2014 20:49
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Rosveen
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    I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).
    Normally I wouldn't care, but it's affecting me in PvE too. My sub runs out in a few days and I think I'll be taking a break - not leaving permanently, just until it gets fixed. It works out well because I'm going on vacation this month, so I wouldn't have much time to play anyway.
  • Grim13
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am not casual, and I do care about the FPS because it affects me greatly. I am keeping my sub because I can find no credible reason to believe that they are not taking this issue seriously. I enjoyed the game before the fps was broken and it is reasonable to believe I will still enjoy it when it is fixed.

    Cancelling my sub would only inhibit their resources in fixing the problem. In my opinion that would be counter productive in getting the issue fixed.

    I am as frustrated and impatient about this as the next person (0.9fps) but I have more reason to wait then to give up.

    Keeping my sub.

    Not even two failed promises of Monday fixes in a row?
  • Honfold
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    Yes, I get no or few FPS issues ever
    I have not really been having too many issues, other than the FPS indirectly bleeding population out.
  • johnyeh87
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    No, I already unsubbed
    They said they have to charge $15 a month for WORTHY content. Yet they literally broke the game and I cannot play due to the FPS issue which is still there.
    I AM CANADIAN!!!
    Johny EH?
  • Jaxom
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    Honfold wrote: »
    I have not really been having too many issues, other than the FPS indirectly bleeding population out.

    I dont think it's indirectly bleed pop out. It's Directly bleeding pop out.
  • Armitas
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am not casual, and I do care about the FPS because it affects me greatly. I am keeping my sub because I can find no credible reason to believe that they are not taking this issue seriously. I enjoyed the game before the fps was broken and it is reasonable to believe I will still enjoy it when it is fixed.

    Cancelling my sub would only inhibit their resources in fixing the problem. In my opinion that would be counter productive in getting the issue fixed.

    I am as frustrated and impatient about this as the next person (0.9fps) but I have more reason to wait then to give up.

    Keeping my sub.

    Not even two failed promises of Monday fixes in a row?

    Even though both patches failed to alleviate it fully, nothing about that failure would lead me to believe that they are not taking it seriously. In fact the last patch opened up by saying.
    Please note that is part of an ongoing effort to resolve client performance issues, and we are working on additional improvements and fixes as well. We understand how much frustration this causes, and it remains our number one priority.

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    Edited by Armitas on 7 July 2014 21:29
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Grim13
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am not casual, and I do care about the FPS because it affects me greatly. I am keeping my sub because I can find no credible reason to believe that they are not taking this issue seriously. I enjoyed the game before the fps was broken and it is reasonable to believe I will still enjoy it when it is fixed.

    Cancelling my sub would only inhibit their resources in fixing the problem. In my opinion that would be counter productive in getting the issue fixed.

    I am as frustrated and impatient about this as the next person (0.9fps) but I have more reason to wait then to give up.

    Keeping my sub.

    Not even two failed promises of Monday fixes in a row?

    Even though both patches failed to alleviate it fully, nothing about that failure would lead me to believe that they are not taking it seriously. In fact the last patch opened up by saying.
    Please note that is part of an ongoing effort to resolve client performance issues, and we are working on additional improvements and fixes as well. We understand how much frustration this causes, and it remains our number one priority.

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

    I was going to respond to this... but... at the moment I am having difficulty suppressing the giggles each reread brings... L O L

    Pure, unadulterated, comedy gold!
  • dcincali
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Pretty much. They're disabling certain effects one by one. My advice to them would be to test their code. It's a crazy idea I came up with while super-stoned.

  • Armitas
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    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Halrloprillalar
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    One is the truth and one is what they say.
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Technically speaking... randomly patching stuff sounds more plausible. Deadly serious (also super-stoned still).

  • Grim13
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

    You give them too much credit.

    Clearly, every blurb passed on to the community is a carefully orchestrated bit of ass-covering.
  • BrassRazoo
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    Yes, I'm casual and I don't care
    I just liked the sound of my selection.
  • Permafrost
    No, I already unsubbed
    I unsubbed. I'm giving them until Thursday to change my mind and make me renew or I'm done. This reeks of SB.EXE ERROR.
    Permafrost
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Permafrost wrote: »
    I unsubbed. I'm giving them until Thursday to change my mind and make me renew or I'm done. This reeks of SB.EXE ERROR.
    Another former Shadowbaner I see.

    SB was more stable than this most days.
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  • Armitas
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

    This is non sequitur.
    ______


    Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

    I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.
    Edited by Armitas on 7 July 2014 22:39
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Rylana
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Ive already cancelled. If (and only if) the FPS issue is resolved before my last 2 weeks of time are up, will they even have a chance of me hitting the resub button.

    Game Time Remaining

    You have 17 days of game time remaining.

    Im done. There are too many MMOs out there to be playing in the time spent worrying about the future of this one.

    So its either fix it or else for me at this point.
    Edited by Rylana on 7 July 2014 22:32
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  • Grim13
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

    This is non sequitur.
    ______


    Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

    I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.

    Read what you just wrote... and with that in mind, reread what you wrote earlier:
    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
  • Tintinabula
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    No, I already unsubbed
    the ship is sunk. Anyone staying is already drowned. Gluck
  • shanersimms_ESO
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    Most pre-order and day 1 subs are coming up to renew soon. The FPS issue seems to not have been fixed. For those people primarily focused on the pvp (and raiding, e.g. trials, which also seems to be affected), this means a make or break point. So the question is, are you still going to play ESO next month even with little in the way of changes to this issue?

    LMFAO these choices. Where's the option for "I do get major FPS issues but I will still be keeping my sub and don't expect a handout because the game is still playable in many ways" ?

    Why do they even let these kids make polls....
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  • Wolfahm
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    I'm giving them till last minute to unsub (this week or whatever it is for you).

    LMFAO these choices. Where's the option for "I do get major FPS issues but I will still be keeping my sub and don't expect a handout because the game is still playable in many ways" ?

    Why do they even let these kids make polls....


    You are a sad person.



    PS. I change my vote i unsubbed.
    Edited by Wolfahm on 7 July 2014 23:01
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  • Armitas
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

    This is non sequitur.
    ______


    Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

    I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.

    Read what you just wrote... and with that in mind, reread what you wrote earlier:
    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

    That is an explanation not based on assumption, but an explanation based on a actual comment made by ZOS which is also why I quoted it.
    Edited by Armitas on 7 July 2014 23:07
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Tintinabula
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Who in their right mind pays for a product they're not receiving? "Hello Electric company...OH?..I can only use electricity 3 hours a day in one room?..that's fine here let me pay you what I regularly pay you." :|

    I normally go around paying for stuff I never receive. It's called insanity. o.O
    Edited by Tintinabula on 7 July 2014 23:06
  • Grim13
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

    This is non sequitur.
    ______


    Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

    I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.

    Read what you just wrote... and with that in mind, reread what you wrote earlier:
    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

    That is an explanation not based on assumption, but an explanation based on a actual comment made by ZOS which is also why I quoted it.

    You've assumed the quote is more than PR.
  • demenzia
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    None of the above. Even though I do care about fps, I'll stay no matter what, at least till the Witcher 3 is released ^^. Come on, playing on minimum settings can be fun, it's like time machine :D
  • Armitas
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    dcincali wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »

    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.
    So, they are just randomly patching stuff cause they really have no idea what is going on in hopes it fixes itself..

    Which sounds more plausible to you, that they are randomly patching stuff in the hopes that they succeed or releasing incremental patches as they stated they were doing.

    Don't you think that if ZOS were actually smart enough to do that... they'd not have caused this problem in the first place?

    This is non sequitur.
    ______


    Occam's razor can easily avoid explanations that take part in added assumptions like conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated speculation.

    I get the frustration backed comments, I am saying them myself every day during this fps nightmare. However when it gets down to the reality of the matter I take them at their word that it is their number one priority.

    Read what you just wrote... and with that in mind, reread what you wrote earlier:
    What we are seeing is an "incremental patch" and not necessarily a series of failures. They may simply be releasing improvements as they discover them rather than holding those back until the big fix is discovered.

    That is an explanation not based on assumption, but an explanation based on a actual comment made by ZOS which is also why I quoted it.

    You've assumed the quote is more than PR.

    No it is your added assumption that it is only PR.

    Since you seem to be pushing a moot point without knowing it I think you should refresh yourself on occams razor. It does not say the explanation without any assumption but rather the explanation with the least assumptions.
    Edited by Armitas on 7 July 2014 23:40
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Halrloprillalar
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    No, I already unsubbed
    Most pre-order and day 1 subs are coming up to renew soon. The FPS issue seems to not have been fixed. For those people primarily focused on the pvp (and raiding, e.g. trials, which also seems to be affected), this means a make or break point. So the question is, are you still going to play ESO next month even with little in the way of changes to this issue?

    LMFAO these choices. Where's the option for "I do get major FPS issues but I will still be keeping my sub and don't expect a handout because the game is still playable in many ways" ?

    Why do they even let these kids make polls....

    Let's see:

    I play only in AvA (99%, the other 1% is sorting all the green junk related to it). It may not be the same for you but that's all I care about.

    I get 3 FPS during the most important parts of said play (siege, keep offense/defense/group fights).

    3 FPS hardly qualifies as playable and actually makes me get angrier than I ever should in a video game.

    Therefore, for me, the game is largely unplayable.

    I don't want a handout. I just want to be able to play without ragequitting at least once a day. ZOS can't provide that, therefore I am withdrawing my money.
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