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New ultimate stacking
Baphomet
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Hey @ZOS.
I know that ultimate stacking is a big concern of yours and a big annoyance to many players so I want to give you a heads up on the newest routine out there.
It is now possible for a nightblades to generate so much damage that they can stack veil of blades on top of batswarm and run both simultaneously.
If you ever thought it was hard to take down a DK on his standard pre-nerfs, I think you will want to look into this one.
Cheers.
I know that ultimate stacking is a big concern of yours and a big annoyance to many players so I want to give you a heads up on the newest routine out there.
It is now possible for a nightblades to generate so much damage that they can stack veil of blades on top of batswarm and run both simultaneously.
If you ever thought it was hard to take down a DK on his standard pre-nerfs, I think you will want to look into this one.
Cheers.
- The Psijic Order
- TKO
- Dominant Dominion
- The Noore
- TKO
- Dominant Dominion
- The Noore
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Kililin✭✭✭✭
NERF, i think i am nerdraging
hehe, does it really matter? the problem was 10 batswarms stacked not 2 abilities ffs1 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭The only way this is possible is if the Nightblade can do a lot of AoE damage with Power Extraction or Sap Essence. On top of that, they pretty much need to have Veil of Blades already ready to go before the fight starts and be a stage 4 vampire. 1v1 2v2 etc, it would be difficult to do this. Every class can spec this way and do something similar.Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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Kililin✭✭✭✭The only way this is possible is if the Nightblade can do a lot of AoE damage with Power Extraction or Sap Essence. On top of that, they pretty much need to have Veil of Blades already ready to go before the fight starts and be a stage 4 vampire. 1v1 2v2 etc, it would be difficult to do this. Every class can spec this way and do something similar.
doesnt matter, reasoning has no place here, the circle nerfing needs to continue.
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭The only way this is possible is if the Nightblade can do a lot of AoE damage with Power Extraction or Sap Essence. On top of that, they pretty much need to have Veil of Blades already ready to go before the fight starts and be a stage 4 vampire. 1v1 2v2 etc, it would be difficult to do this. Every class can spec this way and do something similar.
doesnt matter, reasoning has no place here, the circle nerfing needs to continue.
Exactly....be careful what you wish for cause once they are done with DKs/ Sorcs they will be gunning for NBs, what goes around comes around ....all the NB whiners will get whats coming to them in due time.1 -
Baphomet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah, the problem is that these two ultimates are pretty fine as they are - but unfortunately have a very potent synergy. Of course veil of blades has to be ready to go first, but with the damage reduction on that ult, the nightblade can just hold block and absorb a lot of damage while bat swarm charges. And once bat swarm is running too, the ult built-up really starts. Add some sap essence on top of that I am sure one can see where thit is going...
It is kinda like the same thing as with DKs recently where they'd drop a standard and the first thing people did was to charge in melee to kill the DK only to get a lesson in standard punishment, and then go on to complain about standard being over powered even though it is not very hard to counter (if you have the reflexes).
Anywho, not sure how big of an issue this is going to be but when it is pulled off, it is definately more potent than dark talons + standard. I am more of a disposition where I want to gently point it out so that Zenimax might not have to deal with a *** later on.- The Psijic Order
- TKO
- Dominant Dominion
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Soban✭✭✭Probably not a very big deal seeing as how you can just walk away from NBs standing in veil and they won't want to chase you out of it with swarm. Not like they can mash talons, either.
Now, if they can generate enough ult to perma veil and weave in soul assaults, that could be pain.<BiS>0 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭I want a perma soul assault spec dammit"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Venithar✭✭✭Easy fix - just make all ultimates have a global 4 second ultimate regen debuff when used and increase the cost by 50% if used within 4 seconds
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭Easy fix - just make all ultimates have a global 4 second ultimate regen debuff when used and increase the cost by 50% if used within 4 seconds
You mean 78%...."nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Kiljaz✭✭✭ATTENTION ZoS: This is very easy to fix without a direct nerf to anyone.
Just make it so only one ultimate can be active at a time.2 -
killedbyping✭✭✭✭There is no way NB can generate that much of ultimate points... It is either some bug/exploit abuse or OP just dont know what he talking about.2
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✭While grinding in craglorn I've been playing around with stacking ult with my NB, while I cant do it perma, it's pretty good. But, that's at a burial site with all sorts of things going on. I can't see how you'd get the same ult charging in a different instance to that.Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
A'marta - AD Sorc Tank
Kijima - AD DK Derps
Annure - AD NB Derps
Boom Crash Opera - AD Sorc DPS0 -
TheBucket✭✭✭✭What's awesome is the vampire mist bolt escape comboEdited by TheBucket on 13 June 2014 06:40William Reignes
Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
Creator of Thirsty Thief Build (Retired 1.5)0 -
Arzarzel✭✭lets nerf all classes until we can only kill guards in a group of 40+ ppl
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PvP will be soooo much fun! All abilities shall cost 500 mana/stamina and do 50dmg critical max! Ultimate may shall do 100dmg! The this game is finally balanced! Whoop whoop0 -
NakedSnake✭✭✭The only way this is possible is if the Nightblade can do a lot of AoE damage with Power Extraction or Sap Essence. On top of that, they pretty much need to have Veil of Blades already ready to go before the fight starts and be a stage 4 vampire. 1v1 2v2 etc, it would be difficult to do this. Every class can spec this way and do something similar.
doesnt matter, reasoning has no place here, the circle nerfing needs to continue.
Exactly....be careful what you wish for cause once they are done with DKs/ Sorcs they will be gunning for NBs, what goes around comes around ....all the NB whiners will get whats coming to them in due time.
NB's were the first to get nerfed with mist form."Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"0 -
Aeradon✭✭✭✭✭lets nerf all classes until we can only kill guards in a group of 40+ ppl!!
PvP will be soooo much fun! All abilities shall cost 500 mana/stamina and do 50dmg critical max! Ultimate may shall do 100dmg! The this game is finally balanced! Whoop whoop
What he said. I'll get to more details.
Nerf the emperor, nerf the scrolls, nerf basic attacks to have a 4s cool down, nerf keeps to have no walls, nerf reflect to reflect only 5%, nerf armour to 0, nerf staff to not be able to cast skills like mages, nerf heals to only heal NPC, nerf stealth, nerf NB so they have no siphon, nerf DK so they can't call themselves knights, nerf vamp and ww, nerf Templars so they can't heal, nerf Sorc so they have no magicka, nerf the rabbits and deers so they heal you when they die.People keep telling me they're gonna buy me an ale. They never do.
There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's culture. And the Elves.
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Bloodvax✭✭✭The skill base of players in this game is terribad. Even the DK's didnt need a NERF they needed some abilities tweaked that werent working properly (which honestly i beleive its the CC immunity system thats broken not class abilities) but anyway if your gonna be a mindless lemming and stubbornly plant your fail self in 2 ultimates then you deserve to die Honestly learn to move around its not that hard. People in this game throw themselves into a huge pile (like the big pile of dudes in South park) then run at another pile of huge dudes untill one pile wins. Thats what constitutes pvp in this game. No movement or skill required at all. The Circle Nerfin has gone on enough. its time to turn attention to the broken mechanics that allow abilities to be abused, not nerfin the abilities themselves.ASYLUM-PVP
Bloodvax- Vet Templar underpowered crafter
Molly Mesita-OP NB
Lizerd Wizard-Lowbie PVP toon
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Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭Yeah I think that stupid to nerf things that are not broken. I finally found a reasonable way to play my nightblade that is not cheap or using a gimmick setup and I do not want to be nerf for using what they gave us.0 -
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✭✭The solution is simple, nerf everyone and everything until we have 1 hp and do 1 pt of damage every 10 sec. Then everyone can be equal and no one will complain. < (sarcasm if you haven't guessed)"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."0 -
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✭In most threads about Ultimate 'exploits,' the common thread is vampirism. ZOS really screwed the pooch on that design.Snit AD Sorc
Ratbag AD Warden Tank
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frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭The only way this is possible is if the Nightblade can do a lot of AoE damage with Power Extraction or Sap Essence. On top of that, they pretty much need to have Veil of Blades already ready to go before the fight starts and be a stage 4 vampire. 1v1 2v2 etc, it would be difficult to do this. Every class can spec this way and do something similar.
doesnt matter, reasoning has no place here, the circle nerfing needs to continue.
He said circle nerfing.1 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭galiumb16_ESO wrote: »
You'd be amazed how many times as a healer I have to go click-frenzy to keep people alive at resources who don't move out of the red circle of death or the negate magic bubble.
Thankfully I don't rez the stupid ones until they learn.The Legendary Nothing2 -
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Don't stand in it bro, period. Still does less damage overall than banner and has a smaller radius. Only times I can charge up my VoB to full while the old one is still active is when everyone charges me thinking "herp derp here's a nightblade...easy AP" and they keep beating at me in my VoB while I spam sap essence,etc to recharge my ulti. Stop standing in my AOE range and you'll be fine.
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