Former emperorship & Underpopulation

Gisgo

Nevril wrote: »

As for the rest of the posts I'm reading: Some people have to learn how to read before writing in here. I bet some of the flamers in this constructive post are the people who are doing cross-faction (DC and AD) agreement to get their useless 5% Ultimate Bonus RIGHT NOW, ruining everyones fun. (and be careful, I'm not saying it hasn't been done on the EP side too)

See ya,
Former Empress Lavinia Aioros (EU)

Ive been underpopulated on EU Auriel's Bow since day 1, never crossfactioned.

There is no excuse for an exploiters to come here and tell us the system he exploited needs to be changed.

Its 100% hypocrisy, enjoy your fake emperorship and leave legit arguments to legit players.

Nevril

Good for you.

maholi

The former Emp. buffs are pretty small for people who think it should be removed.

1) Increases the magnitude of healing on them by 1%.
2) Decreases Ultimate costs by 5%.
3) Increases health/magicka/stamina recovery while in combat by 2%.
4) Increases siege weapon damage to keeps and other siege by 2%.

Daiju

Nevril wrote: »

IMHO a better solution, also given the upcoming short-duration campaigns, would be:
- Leave the Former Emperor bonuses only for the duration of the campaign
- If you are out of Cyrodiil AND home campaign, no bonus applies
- Remove the skill points requirements so it is easier to reset the bonuses once the campaign ends
- Boost a little bit the former emperor bonuses
- While Emperor, earned AP aren't counted anymore in the leaderboard score so you guarantee some more Emperor rotation and fun
- Put a maximum amount of scouting missions per day

QFT. Don't have much to add, would very much like to see something like this implemented.

Affrayer

1nugam1 wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

1nugam1 wrote: »

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

- Former Empress Aquilon

Edited

Thanks for making unnecessary assumptions about how I am as a person. It warms my heart.

I support Daiju / Tigrau's point of view on the matter. They should do something about this. I followed the same pattern as Tigrau and had the title given to me the very same day as he.

I do NOT think it's right. However it felt necessary as getting emperor title on Dawnbreaker is, sorry to say, 100% impossible for any EP(except the emperor himself). Like Daiju stated above. It was done to stay competitive. Tbh with you I thought this campaign would be populated and interesting(perhaps with likeminded ppl), guess I was wrong. by likeminded ppl I mean ppl who saw a chance and took it.. and by having many likeminded ppl it could've turned out a bit more interested compared to the ghost town it was back when I played there.

You just reaffirmed my own post.

Claim of innocence:
"Thanks for making unnecessary assumptions about how I am as a person. It warms my heart."

Admission:
"I followed the same pattern as Tigrau and had the title given to me the very same day as he."

Excuse:
"I do NOT think it's right. However it felt necessary as getting emperor title on Dawnbreaker..."

"I wouldn't do something like that in real life so that makes it okay."

1nugam1

I don't get how you can even compare real life with games anyway, Affrayer? With your kind of logic people who kill in a game kill in real life too, right?

But whatever floats your boat mister. Just trying to keep a level-headed constructive discussion - unlike your continuous personal attacks.

Affrayer

1nugam1 wrote: »

I don't get how you can even compare real life with games anyway, Affrayer? With your kind of logic people who kill in a game kill in real life too, right?

But whatever floats your boat mister. Just trying to keep a level-headed constructive discussion - unlike your continuous personal attacks.

There's a difference between playing a single person fps and exploiting game mechanics on an mmo for your own personal benefit and then trying to justify it on a forum. Everyone on celarus that just wants to play pvp is being trumped by farmers like you. That's the difference. Other real people are affected by your actions.

1nugam1

Affrayer wrote: »

There's a difference between playing a single person fps and exploiting game mechanics on an mmo for your own personal benefit and then trying to justify it on a forum. Everyone on celarus that just wants to play pvp is being trumped by farmers like you. That's the difference. Other real people are affected by your actions.

Well tough luck. Guess what.. I would like to play pvp on Celarus too. Back then there were close to no opposition at all leaving anyone with little choice as how to gain AP. I'm unsure as to what the population is after the reset but I don't imagine it being much better now. ''Other real people are affected by your actions'' something you should take to heart yourself before you go on about how everybody here are corrupt and only wants what's best for themselves. But to be very blunt, if you wanted 'pvp' and you were on Celarus the first 14 days - you should not be there. There was simply no action to be had.

Affrayer

1nugam1 wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

There's a difference between playing a single person fps and exploiting game mechanics on an mmo for your own personal benefit and then trying to justify it on a forum. Everyone on celarus that just wants to play pvp is being trumped by farmers like you. That's the difference. Other real people are affected by your actions.

Well tough luck. Guess what.. I would like to play pvp on Celarus too. Back then there were close to no opposition at all leaving anyone with little choice as how to gain AP. I'm unsure as to what the population is after the reset but I don't imagine it being much better now. ''Other real people are affected by your actions'' something you should take to heart yourself before you go on about how everybody here are corrupt and only wants what's best for themselves. But to be very blunt, if you wanted 'pvp' and you were on Celarus the first 14 days - you should not be there. There was simply no action to be had.

And yet more runarounds.

"''Other real people are affected by your actions'' something you should take to heart yourself before you go on about how everybody here are corrupt and only wants what's best for themselves. "

I was so wrong. I apologize. I'm sure you farmed former emperor for the betterment of all eso's playerbase.

1nugam1

Either case, we're here to propose solutions. I for one like Nevril's idea.

Gisgo

Nevril wrote: »

- Boost a little bit the former emperor bonuses

Sure... how about removing them instead?

Tintinabula

500k ap ...that's all?...you wouldn't even be top 100 on wabbajack.Something is definitely wrong with that set up.

maholi

Tintinabula wrote: »

500k ap ...that's all?...you wouldn't even be top 100 on wabbajack.Something is definitely wrong with that set up.

But don't forget, getting 500k AP on a lower pop server is a lot harder than on Wabbajack where the AP rolls in.

Izatar

I first made emperor without using scouting quest vs many who farmed it (they never made emp!). Then after I sacked my emperorship, I had a chance to run it when it was at a keep that could be teleported directly to with zero travel time. I did this for 5 hours. Guess how much AP I made in 5 hours farming the fastest possible way? Go on, guess!
90k. Thats it. Also, I didn't even make 1 vet rank. I did make a bit of gold tho!

The scouting quest is not an efficient way to exploit for AP when it is in the superfluid state, let alone when it operates normally and requires travel.

Also,do those crying about the former emperor bonus probably even know what they are?
Increased healing received by 1%
Decrease ultimate cost by 5%
Health, Magika ,Stamina regen 2%
Seige weapon damage 2%

These are not even noticable! If you are getting stomped by former emperors it is because they are highly experienced hardcore players who have 10 times more time put into the game than you, not because of these silly buffs.

SwampRaider

maholi wrote: »

The former Emp. buffs are pretty small for people who think it should be removed.

1) Increases the magnitude of healing on them by 1%.
2) Decreases Ultimate costs by 5%.
3) Increases health/magicka/stamina recovery while in combat by 2%.
4) Increases siege weapon damage to keeps and other siege by 2%.

this

Tintinabula

maholi wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

500k ap ...that's all?...you wouldn't even be top 100 on wabbajack.Something is definitely wrong with that set up.

But don't forget, getting 500k AP on a lower pop server is a lot harder than on Wabbajack where the AP rolls in.

scouting missions bring in what? 750 a pop?..repeatable?...hide mode run here?..hide mode run there?...I'm an emperor! meh

Izatar

Tintinabula wrote: »

750 a pop?

No, it is 250. If you are teleporting directly to the keep you can make it around once a minute, so that s 60*250, or 15000 an hour. This is terrible AP income rate!
If you have to actually run to the quest location, you get once every 5 minutes maybe which is like 3000 an hour. That is really slow.

Raeder

ITT: Foolish people who care about honor in a video game.

Former Emperorship bonuses never should have been in the game. You don't provide something that 90% of people will never get.

But this is a small reason why I bet 50% of people that bought this game have quit.

I'm only here because there is nothing else to do. Which doesn't say anything positive about this game.

Rylana

Daiju wrote: »

I spent 20 hours a day for a week doing scouting missions.

Pretty sure this is more of an issue than any other part of the game design. Thats a monumental amount of grinding.

Nevril

Sure... how about you read my proposal as a whole instead of focus just one point which taken by itself is clearly a wrong change?

Gisgo wrote: »

Nevril wrote: »

- Boost a little bit the former emperor bonuses

Sure... how about removing them instead?

seeker1

Permanent buffs for FORMER emps sucks. This super flaw will drive pvp people to quit this game. Too bad to.

Gisgo

I did read all your posts, they just dont make sense to me.
The former emperor buff needs to be removed.

Being such a trivial and small boost to your stats, im sure you dont mind, do you?

Same goes for alliance points coming from anything that is not fighting players.
Undefended keeps/resources should not pay APs.
Quests not involving fighting enemy players should not pay APs.

Cross faction emperorship farming on Celarus should be dealth with... by banning.

frwinters_ESO

Daiju wrote: »

Hello!

The current emperorship system drives people to do things that have a negative impact on the game as a whole. I spent 20 hours a day for a week doing scouting missions earning my own emperorship on Celarus because there were no players.

The entire Celarus campaign along with all underpopulated campaigns has turned into one huge joke and the former emperor status has no point apart from the permanent buffs whatsoever. Something is wrong when even PvE players have to get to a point in PvP in order to perform well in PvE.

I'm asking of you to re-look into this whole emperorship design; a good solution in my book would be to remove the emperorship passives alltogether for former emperors and just leave them with the title, this way people could feel more relaxed pvping and playing their alts. The game is enjoyable, the pvp is absolutely amazing, but this thing is single-handidly ripping guilds apart and making people quit the game.

Thanks in advance,
Hope you will look into this,
Former Empress Tigrau

PS. One of the many things wrong with the current AvA system is underpopulation; I believe some splitting of the more overpopulated campagins and disabling guesting in those would be of benefit to make the player starving campaigns come to life.

Do you read the forums before posting this stuff? Did you read they are shuting down all the servers, cutting them down to help solve underpopulation, which in tune should help solve Emperor ship grinding?

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Things will be a little better once 90 day campaigns are dead and leaderboard resets are much faster.

They still need to alter the amount of points certain actions give you..

Kolur

seeker1 wrote: »

Permanent buffs for FORMER emps sucks. This super flaw will drive pvp people to quit this game. Too bad to.

Have u read the buffs?
Ooh I do 40 more dmg than you on a wall with 200K HP!
That means I just need 1 less shot than you to finish it!

I have 2% more regeneration than you! Oh wait. not really since my
Magica Is 105. And Stamina 99. And HP 67. All capped already damn.

I recive 1% more healing *Insert *** reddit ppl yelling nerf!! ban!!*
Seriously. Just go die. Please. Makes me happy

Only useful 1 Is 5% Ultimate cost reduction. I won't deny that having 19 less cost on my Soulstrike helps. *NOT* Healers get insta ulti anyways
So I can get Soul Assault up fast with or without 19 reduction.


And wna know something? even If there were 0 Buffs.
I would still Farm the title.

even If title Is removed.
I would farm for a screenshot.


I just love how many jealous lil wee babies are crying here.
Just get Into PvP & stop them from doing Scout missions If u can

So THIS IS A SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE *** WHO HELPED ME GET EMPEROR BY WASTING TIME ON FORUMS! THANK YOU!!! :disagree: