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The other day I came across a site that stated the total ESO sales (as of May 24th) were only .39 million. That includes all world wide sales in both digital and disk.
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
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1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.----
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Darrett✭✭✭✭ZOS needs to drastically improve their game if that's going to happen. Once the Exodus starts it is difficult to stop.
Unfortunately they don't seem to interested. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the talk there has to do with whether or not they're going to cancel the console release and what a F2P model will require. The initial bad press followed by no communication and slow reaction times to issues have almost shut the door on any sort of population recovery.9 -
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✭As far as I know, that website only has access to the number of hard box copies sold in stores. I don't believe Zenimax reports to them nor do they have access to the amount of copies sold on Zenimax' website.
At least that's what I gathered from Reddit where others were also refering to the vgchartz numbers.- The Psijic Order
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Ulvich✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
I couldn't find anything saying they were pre-order numbers.
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
I couldn't find anything saying they were pre-order numbers.
How about the dates on the numbers?----
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nathan_bri✭✭✭✭You missed an opportunity to state this in billions:
0.00039 billion in sales
Or even trillions:
0.00000039 trillion in sales
Or you could just go with the normal method of stating a sub-million amount in thousands:
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✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
How do you know its pre-order number only?
Because I can read.
Look at the dates for the made-up numbers. They only list 4/4, and the 5/24 date doesn't actually cite a difference in numbers. They don't list a developer, and they don't list where they got their sales numbers.
It doesn't matter if the site is simply set up badly and they intended their numbers to reflect pre-orders plus global sales to 5/24- the numbers are entirely imaginary.Edited by nerevarine1138 on 5 June 2014 13:34----
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iaintoff✭✭✭All I know is I has 5 guilds ,and the amount of grayed out slots representing those who don't log in verses those in tha guild that are logged in is massive, the exodus hasn't begun, it's happened, it's done.Edited by iaintoff on 5 June 2014 13:364
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✭✭✭✭✭All I know is I has 5 guilds ,and the amount of brayed out slots representing those who don't log in verses those in tha guild that are logged in is massive, the exodus hasn't begun, it's happened, it's done.
And I have 5 guilds full of active members who have been there since day one of Early Access. Maybe you should recruit more steadfast members.----
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So in other words: Me and my 3 friends that preordered it online are not even owning the game per this site?As far as I know, that website only has access to the number of hard box copies sold in stores. I don't believe Zenimax reports to them nor do they have access to the amount of copies sold on Zenimax' website.
At least that's what I gathered from Reddit where others were also refering to the vgchartz numbers.
"I never trust a statisctic I have not faked myself".
I also checked thier numbers on WoW. They claim 10.6 Million copies have been sold. But highest sub count was 12 Million.
And ESO is much stronger in the digital distribution area then WoW.Elana Peterson (EU), Dominion, Imperial Sorc, Rune & Alchemy Crafting Char
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Dusty5✭✭✭The other day I came across a site that stated the total ESO sales (as of May 24th) were only .39 million. That includes all world wide sales in both digital and disk.
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
No one. ESO has dug its own grave with the decisions its made. Even Forbes magazine has issued a review and investor warning to stay away. We all know the list of problems. Thinking back to its development and press releases during that time deciding to chase after CCP/SONY and try for a duel platform MMO was a bridge to far. The E3expo is the superbowl event for the gaming industry and marketing everyone will be there with the best new products. E3 pulls live T.V. and Cable coverage and the international press will be there as well. This train wreck will be talked about and reviewed at length you can bet on it. ESO is headed for the discount bin/f2p if they are lucky that will be the worst of it.3 -
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vgchartz only uses data they get, unless the publisher gives out data they uses sales from retail stores.nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
How do you know its pre-order number only?
Because I can read.
Look at the dates for the made-up numbers. They only list 4/4, and the 5/24 date doesn't actually cite a difference in numbers. They don't list a developer, and they don't list where they got their sales numbers.
It doesn't matter if the site is simply set up badly and they intended their numbers to reflect pre-orders plus global sales to 5/24- the numbers are entirely imaginary.
This should include digital versions sold in retail stores, but will not include versions sold by the elderscrollsonline store and many online only shops.
For pc games they tend to only list 1/3 -1/4 of the actual sales.
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✭✭✭✭VGChartz doesn't track digital sales. This alone makes it worthless in ESO's case.
Moreover, while their estimates (because this is all they have) are usually more or less correct, they've been horrendously wrong in some cases. For example Portal 2 was confirmed to have sold more copies on PC than on consoles, but VGChartz shows PC sales as a minority. Most likely because everyone bought it off Steam.
Stop with the guestimates, people. Only Zenimax knows how well ESO sold and they're not talking.2 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭All I know is I has 5 guilds ,and the amount of grayed out slots representing those who don't log in verses those in tha guild that are logged in is massive, the exodus hasn't begun, it's happened, it's done.
Yeah right. Wanna know where those people went? In my guilds.. but not telling you why, they asked me no to...Edited by mutharex on 5 June 2014 13:420 -
isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭All I know is I has 5 guilds ,and the amount of grayed out slots representing those who don't log in verses those in tha guild that are logged in is massive, the exodus hasn't begun, it's happened, it's done.
When I log onto Winterhoof, I only see maybe 20 people in global /who. Clearly, WoW is dying, the exodus is massive.
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭The other day I came across a site that stated the total ESO sales (as of May 24th) were only .39 million. That includes all world wide sales in both digital and disk.
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
No one. ESO has dug its own grave with the decisions its made. Even Forbes magazine has issued a review and investor warning to stay away. We all know the list of problems. Thinking back to its development and press releases during that time deciding to chase after CCP/SONY and try for a duel platform MMO was a bridge to far. The E3expo is the superbowl event for the gaming industry and marketing everyone will be there with the best new products. E3 pulls live T.V. and Cable coverage and the international press will be there as well. This train wreck will be talked about and reviewed at length you can bet on it. ESO is headed for the discount bin/f2p if they are lucky that will be the worst of it.
ROFL would you kindly share the link with us? Only thing I remember is an independent blogger talking *** from the bloggers section of Forbes
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Really? I heard they had 10million sales.
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✭✭✭✭✭The other day I came across a site that stated the total ESO sales (as of May 24th) were only .39 million. That includes all world wide sales in both digital and disk.
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
No one. ESO has dug its own grave with the decisions its made. Even Forbes magazine has issued a review and investor warning to stay away. We all know the list of problems. Thinking back to its development and press releases during that time deciding to chase after CCP/SONY and try for a duel platform MMO was a bridge to far. The E3expo is the superbowl event for the gaming industry and marketing everyone will be there with the best new products. E3 pulls live T.V. and Cable coverage and the international press will be there as well. This train wreck will be talked about and reviewed at length you can bet on it. ESO is headed for the discount bin/f2p if they are lucky that will be the worst of it.
ROFL would you kindly share the link with us? Only thing I remember is an independent blogger talking *** from the bloggers section of Forbes
Pathetic
This is why I hate blogs. They get the weight of the major publisher's name backing up their ridiculous posts in order to make ignorant readers take them more seriously.
According to "Forbes" (read: a dumb blogger on their site), Blizzard's authenticators were compromised during the D3 launch. Of course, the writer didn't actually have a real authenticator, but darn it all, what do facts matter when you're muckraking?----
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »The other day I came across a site that stated the total ESO sales (as of May 24th) were only .39 million. That includes all world wide sales in both digital and disk.
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
No one. ESO has dug its own grave with the decisions its made. Even Forbes magazine has issued a review and investor warning to stay away. We all know the list of problems. Thinking back to its development and press releases during that time deciding to chase after CCP/SONY and try for a duel platform MMO was a bridge to far. The E3expo is the superbowl event for the gaming industry and marketing everyone will be there with the best new products. E3 pulls live T.V. and Cable coverage and the international press will be there as well. This train wreck will be talked about and reviewed at length you can bet on it. ESO is headed for the discount bin/f2p if they are lucky that will be the worst of it.
ROFL would you kindly share the link with us? Only thing I remember is an independent blogger talking *** from the bloggers section of Forbes
Pathetic
This is why I hate blogs. They get the weight of the major publisher's name backing up their ridiculous posts in order to make ignorant readers take them more seriously.
According to "Forbes" (read: a dumb blogger on their site), Blizzard's authenticators were compromised during the D3 launch. Of course, the writer didn't actually have a real authenticator, but darn it all, what do facts matter when you're muckraking?
Yeah, it's the same with most negative reviews of TESO, it boiled down to 3 things:
1) it ain't F2P
2) it ain't WoW or some nerd idea of what a MMO must be
3) people are dumb and they hate what they don't understand
I think Angry Joe's 'reviews' covers the 3 points (together with showing beta footage from 2 months before and passing it for live footage...)4 -
Dusty5✭✭✭http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/09/forbes-eso-subscription-model-a-compounding-factor-to-risk/ and here http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/ Pathetic? naa you just have another cup of coffee and have yourself a good day.2
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Ulvich✭✭✭✭✭http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/09/forbes-eso-subscription-model-a-compounding-factor-to-risk/ and here http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/ Pathetic? naa you just have another cup of coffee and have yourself a good day.
You forgot this one also written by Paul Tassi of Forbes.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/09/will-the-elder-scrolls-online-have-the-last-laugh-with-its-subscription-fee/
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I thought we already concluded that Paul Tassi is a moron in another thread.
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mutharex✭✭✭✭✭http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/09/forbes-eso-subscription-model-a-compounding-factor-to-risk/ and here http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/ Pathetic? naa you just have another cup of coffee and have yourself a good day.
Even more pathetic, you are showing us links to a dumb blogger, exactly like we said. Really, trolling it's already sad, doing it with wet ammo is even sadder ah ah ah5
