NA - Wabbajack

Lowbei

ahhh

sarcasm

makes more sense now

Snit

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Infraction

Snit wrote: »

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Knowing that Kate isnt coming over now makes me lose all desire to care about winning.

I am so disappoint.

Halrloprillalar

Infraction wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Knowing that Kate isnt coming over now makes me lose all desire to care about winning.

I am so disappoint.

SO does that mean it's going to be Hugh Jackman instead? :O /excited

Agrippa_Invisus

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Infraction wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Knowing that Kate isnt coming over now makes me lose all desire to care about winning.

I am so disappoint.

SO does that mean it's going to be Hugh Jackman instead? :O /excited

No, it'll be Bill Nighy reprising his role of Slarti Blartfast from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Halrloprillalar

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Infraction wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Knowing that Kate isnt coming over now makes me lose all desire to care about winning.

I am so disappoint.

SO does that mean it's going to be Hugh Jackman instead? :O /excited

No, it'll be Bill Nighy reprising his role of Slarti Blartfast from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

great thanks, I just threw up in my mouth a bit

Sile

balberith wrote: »

Unfortunately in DC there is a lot of negative zone chat and low moral. People complain about oil defense of glad, then go oil farm kingscrest and brag about how much AP they gain. The trolling of your own faction doesn't help anyone and just weakens it more. I dont understand why people enjoy doing this and pity their real life situations if they need to ethug people to feel better about themselves. Also saw a bunch of players just chatting at highrock and heard reports over the last few days of people just doing pve caves for skyshards.

Congrats to EP. There was a noticeable increase in your numbers and organization recently.

The AD emp group is always a challenging fight. You are very well organized and always seem to have more camps coming up.

I feel that the impulse spam is a bit lame as far as player skill goes, but admit it is very effective.

As a DC group leader, you'd be surprised how hard it is to get the other DC group leaders to coordinate.

Almost all of them want to be the supreme commander to some extent, many flat out refuse to work with one another, and if you put them in the same comms together they just start screaming at each other and wagging over who should be the top dog, even when there shouldn't be a top dog.

I would go as far to say DC lacks any kind of leaders who are actually capable leaders, and good at ignoring politics. Almost all of them are in it for themselves and not the faction, when they've been disagreed with they lash out or shut down, and when things don't go their way it isn't their fault.

You can't blame the troops for being demoralised when all they see is constant bickering, chest thumping, and condescension in zone chat.

I don't understand why people are so quick to put down their alliance mates.

TLDR most of the leaders on DC are indescribably inept, and have egos the size of a small planet.

Also, impulse is disgustingly effective in any kind of keep fight. It doesn't take much to stand/follow the party hat and press 1. The alpha alone from 6 AoE users will put more than enough pressure on healers to have people start dropping.

bitaken

You can't blame the troops for being demoralised when all they see is constant bickering, chest thumping, and condescension in zone chat.

There is only one DC leader who is this description.

Supreme commander? lulz - in a video game?

I do get a kick out of the people who think this is required. Two solid groups - one up north - one down south - was when DC had its best success. EG constantly soaking up all the players and accomplishing absolutely nothing does not help.

No one is "at fault" for DC not being able to come back and win. However, people need to have fun playing the game instead of getting such a freaking panties in a bunch attitude on all the time.

Infraction

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Infraction wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Knowing that Kate isnt coming over now makes me lose all desire to care about winning.

I am so disappoint.

SO does that mean it's going to be Hugh Jackman instead? :O /excited

Such a girl or the creepiest dude on the internetz.

nukeyoo

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Then when Wabbajack got really tough and your Alliance needed more people playing and playing at all hours of the day, DC did exactly what I expected them to do -- they quit. They swamped Bloodthorn (already drowning in blue) with even more of them. Your Alliance wanted the easy win instead of either a tough second place and possible victory that you could be proud of.

You've lost Wabbajack. It's done but for the crying.

Like last night on Wabbajack, EP got all 6 Scrolls and Emperor while all 3 populations were locked. What did DC do? Within an hour they dropped down to Medium population, and Bloodthorn's DC pop went from High to Full around the same time. Hell, AD stayed, even though they have no chance of victory at this point.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Jeers to those who threw away their faction's chance at victory by quitting and going over to a campaign they were already winning. Want a challenge that's not Wabbajack? Go try to dethrone Moon Die on Auriel's Bow.

I suspect, due to the sheer lack of heart DC has, he'd stomp them flat.

No way they could dethrone Moon Die, but more because on Auriel's if a few DC or EP player shows up AD goes to High/Full pop within minutes and zerg then gate camp you into quitting.

Oh, I know.

But they've got all those big, elite PVP guilds on the DC side of things. Shouldn't they see that as a challenge? Shouldn't they be taking on campaigns their alliance is doing poorly in instead of hiding in the one that's mathematically locked to a victory for them?

I mean, they've got years of PVP experience and all these advanced tactics, and are so very coordinated. They don't turn down any challenges and take on every opponent and win with superior skill.

Right?

Right?

And in no way is this my secret desire to see certain people zerged flat by AB's AD.

While I'm not condoning anyone jumping ship. I want to merely pose a few questions to those of you commenting on it. Ask yourself this....

"What was my original home campaign towards launch?"

"Did I stick through adversity on my original home campaign or did I leave for greener pastures?"

It's quite amusing how short some peoples memories can be.

Lowbei

...i was duped into leaving AB by lies that there was competition on wabba

Wideglide007

[/quote]As a DC group leader, you'd be surprised how hard it is to get the other DC group leaders to coordinate.

Almost all of them want to be the supreme commander to some extent, many flat out refuse to work with one another, and if you put them in the same comms together they just start screaming at each other and wagging over who should be the top dog, even when there shouldn't be a top dog.

I would go as far to say DC lacks any kind of leaders who are actually capable leaders, and good at ignoring politics. Almost all of them are in it for themselves and not the faction, when they've been disagreed with they lash out or shut down, and when things don't go their way it isn't their fault.

You can't blame the troops for being demoralised when all they see is constant bickering, chest thumping, and condescension in zone chat.

I don't understand why people are so quick to put down their alliance mates.

TLDR most of the leaders on DC are indescribably inept, and have egos the size of a small planet.

Also, impulse is disgustingly effective in any kind of keep fight. It doesn't take much to stand/follow the party hat and press 1. The alpha alone from 6 AoE users will put more than enough pressure on healers to have people start dropping.[/quote]

AD is as bad. a lot of people that think they should be king bob the fabulous, not much coordination. and lately asking "pugs" to do stuff, which is fine, yet 3 weeks ago all pugs were crap as far as they were concerned.

some of us have refused to support emp pushes now since they *** block people that they don't deem worthy to be emp until one of their pals is second on the leaderboard.

nukeyoo

Lowbei wrote: »

...i was duped into leaving AB by lies that there was competition on wabba

That's odd. You left for greener pastures and then stayed when you found it was a lie?

Rivière

nukeyoo wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Then when Wabbajack got really tough and your Alliance needed more people playing and playing at all hours of the day, DC did exactly what I expected them to do -- they quit. They swamped Bloodthorn (already drowning in blue) with even more of them. Your Alliance wanted the easy win instead of either a tough second place and possible victory that you could be proud of.

You've lost Wabbajack. It's done but for the crying.

Like last night on Wabbajack, EP got all 6 Scrolls and Emperor while all 3 populations were locked. What did DC do? Within an hour they dropped down to Medium population, and Bloodthorn's DC pop went from High to Full around the same time. Hell, AD stayed, even though they have no chance of victory at this point.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Jeers to those who threw away their faction's chance at victory by quitting and going over to a campaign they were already winning. Want a challenge that's not Wabbajack? Go try to dethrone Moon Die on Auriel's Bow.

I suspect, due to the sheer lack of heart DC has, he'd stomp them flat.

No way they could dethrone Moon Die, but more because on Auriel's if a few DC or EP player shows up AD goes to High/Full pop within minutes and zerg then gate camp you into quitting.

Oh, I know.

But they've got all those big, elite PVP guilds on the DC side of things. Shouldn't they see that as a challenge? Shouldn't they be taking on campaigns their alliance is doing poorly in instead of hiding in the one that's mathematically locked to a victory for them?

I mean, they've got years of PVP experience and all these advanced tactics, and are so very coordinated. They don't turn down any challenges and take on every opponent and win with superior skill.

Right?

Right?

And in no way is this my secret desire to see certain people zerged flat by AB's AD.

While I'm not condoning anyone jumping ship. I want to merely pose a few questions to those of you commenting on it. Ask yourself this....

"What was my original home campaign towards launch?"

"Did I stick through adversity on my original home campaign or did I leave for greener pastures?"

It's quite amusing how short some peoples memories can be.

That is true.

I also don't condemn people for switch campaigns but from what I recall EP only managed to comeback at DC also due large influx of players. Which actually made the campaign a bit better since DC seemed to be spawn camping others.

Halrloprillalar

Infraction wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Infraction wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

Do people really think the end-of-campaign prizes are going to be amazing? Somehow, I doubt that Kate Beckinsale is going show up at your house with a giant check.

I'm AD, and we're going to lose Wabbajack. No worries -- It's still the best campaign, as it's the only one where you consistently find action everywhere. I'm here for the fights, not the underwhelming box of pixels I could collect by switching back to AB or Skullcrusher.

Knowing that Kate isnt coming over now makes me lose all desire to care about winning.

I am so disappoint.

SO does that mean it's going to be Hugh Jackman instead? :O /excited

Such a girl or the creepiest dude on the internetz.

The former. INB4 no girls on the Internet etc etc.

As for campaign swapping... what about if you left your initial home campaign because everyone ran away from your faction??

I couldn't handle the tumbleweeds

Lowbei

nukeyoo wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

...i was duped into leaving AB by lies that there was competition on wabba

That's odd. You left for greener pastures and then stayed when you found it was a lie?

... while there wasnt "competition", all of AB emptied out into wabba, so why go back to fight nothing?

nice crayons tho. i love how butthurt you act toward me simply because i laughed at you in zone chat like a month ago lol

Halrloprillalar

Sile wrote: »

I don't understand why people are so quick to put down their alliance mates.
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TLDR most of the leaders on DC are indescribably inept, and have egos the size of a small planet.

hmmmmm

Lowbei

^ lol

nukeyoo

Lowbei wrote: »

nukeyoo wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

...i was duped into leaving AB by lies that there was competition on wabba

That's odd. You left for greener pastures and then stayed when you found it was a lie?

... while there wasnt "competition", all of AB emptied out into wabba, so why go back to fight nothing?

nice crayons tho. i love how butthurt you act toward me simply because i laughed at you in zone chat like a month ago lol

Butt hurt? Pointing out the obviously flaws in your back handed comments is considered "butt hurt"?

I apologize but I don't believe you were that impressionable for me to remember our conversation. Noticing your signature; I played Warhammer also but there's the lack of impression to remember you there either.

My apologies if my lack of memory causes any inconveniences, but I'm glad you remembered. You must have a good memory!

edit* forgot to ask... what was it you laughed at me about? I have lots of people laugh at me!

Lowbei

hmm? strange that the "flaw" you pointed out turned out to fail since AB was empty thus nothing to go back to.

war didnt have much competition, so i wasnt around very much.

feel free to continue pretending that you dont remember me while you continue to "point out flaws" while claiming that you arent doing it because you got laughed at lol.

sounds legit bro

nukeyoo

Lowbei wrote: »

hmm? strange that the "flaw" you pointed out turned out to fail since AB was empty thus nothing to go back to.

war didnt have much competition, so i wasnt around very much.

feel free to continue pretending that you dont remember me while you continue to "point out flaws" while claiming that you arent doing it because you got laughed at lol.

sounds legit bro

Once again I apologize if my lack of memory is upsetting. But Warhammer had plenty of competition (although it dwindled towards the end). It's just that those that were any factors in it had better chance of being remembered, I think.

What was it you laughed at me about again? Sooo many people laugh at me its hard to remember all the reasons why!

Lowbei

warhammer had plenty of competition?

lol warhammer never had any gvg competition, ever. we tried to make it happen after launch but there simply wasnt a community for it.

tho i dont doubt that the zerging bads think they were "competing" lol

thats adorable

dont remember why i laughed at you,

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Laura

I like how when the AD get obliterated they complain about EP using the exact same tactics they learned from them. Literally EVERYTHING they have complained about (impulse blob, turtling, huge zergs) are things that the AD has been doing with there enormous numbers from DAY ONE.

We learned from our enemy and adapted.

Your tears are delicious and sweet, AD.


I have nothing but the utmost respect for DC they have and still do put up a good fight for there incredibly small numbers.

Halrloprillalar

Laura wrote: »

I like how when the AD get obliterated they complain about EP using the exact same tactics they learned from them. Literally EVERYTHING they have complained about (impulse blob, turtling, huge zergs) are things that the AD has been doing with there enormous numbers from DAY ONE.

We learned from our enemy and adapted.

Your tears are delicious and sweet, AD.


I have nothing but the utmost respect for DC they have and still do put up a good fight for there incredibly small numbers.

no one is crying on AD over wabba, and you're delusional if you think any faction 'invented' impulse spam or turtling. I'd be pretty proud if AD were so ingenious but somehow I doubt that's the case.

In other words, EP got butthurt that they came close to losing, so they mustered up and went for the sheer number overwhelm strat. Good job, you broke DC and they gave up. Congrats on the win on Wabba.

How many more pats on the back do you need to feel good?

nukeyoo

Lowbei wrote: »

warhammer had plenty of competition?

lol warhammer never had any gvg competition, ever. we tried to make it happen after launch but there simply wasnt a community for it.

tho i dont doubt that the zerging bads think they were "competing" lol

thats adorable

dont remember why i laughed at you,

Oh so you're memory isn't that good after all. Fitting. It is rather amusing how upset you get; resorting to insults over someones lack of memory and/or disagreeing with you.

Whether gvg's happened in SC's, out in the open field randomly, in tovl or organized matches. They did happen. It doesn't surprise me that you weren't made aware of them.

AAO was one of my favorite things about War. Farming the zerg with a small group and assist trains; while the folks standing in a tight proximity spamming aoe abilities were put on farm. NOW I remember! You were spouting off in zone chat about how the AoE cap was the reason for all the lag! I asked you what proof you had and you proceeded to offer none, laugh, and throw insults.

Nowthat's adorable!

Lowbei

haha anyone who makes fun of you must be "upset"

when did i say that gvg didnt happen on warhammer? i said no competition, which is obviously something you dont participate in being a zerger lol. feel free to link me to some youtube warhammer gvg videos, oh wait there are none.

and yeah, the ae calculations have a direct effect on the lag, and whether some nonfactor understands that doesnt matter to me

you should at least attempt to compete before claiming that competition exists anywhere lol

Shaggygaming

Lowbei wrote: »

... i was seriously asking who, because i dont see guild tags... not trying to be sarcastic... but from the looks of it you were referring to fixates group.

it definitely wasnt anything to brag about since they werent really competition, but to be fair, the other fight on the video they werent sieging, it was a simple openfield 6v9 since the keep wasnt a factor. i challenged them to a followup fight and said they could bring 9 again to fight our 6.... they declined.

i just find it funny that so many people consider that alacrity group to be "good" simply because they dont have jobs and play 16 hours a day to top the leaderboard.

i hope that arenas bring real competition.

They're not on EP so that means they're probably not the same group that Fixate is in. All you do is brag about meaningless kills.

Rivière

Lowbei wrote: »

haha anyone who makes fun of you must be "upset"

when did i say that gvg didnt happen on warhammer? i said no competition, which is obviously something you dont participate in being a zerger lol. feel free to link me to some youtube warhammer gvg videos, oh wait there are none.

and yeah, the ae calculations have a direct effect on the lag, and whether some nonfactor understands that doesnt matter to me

you should at least attempt to compete before claiming that competition exists anywhere lol

Erm, you're saying he is not competing ? In ESO or in WAR?

I played WAR with him for and can vouch his groups were always competiting and making plenty of butthurt.

If you meant in ESO, well.. I'm not one to take that leaderboards thing seriously but he is overall rank 10, and probably one out of the other 3 who don't run in "organized zergs"... the others i think is Rednax who runs in a small 4 man usually, and Johnny Hammersticks/Sabre Ali who are not leading zergs and rather doing their own thing.
The rest of the top 10 and maybe even top 20 are part of a small circle of guildies who zerg around farming pugs at keeps.

Lowbei

the group was nico and their normal crew, and i never bragged about anything, in fact i wasnt the one who brought up that video lol

again, its not worth bragging about since they werent really competition. we only recorded it because we expected more from them.

if guesting to wabba one night and beating the top leaderboard group with a smaller group multiple times is "meaningless kills" then what exactly do you consider "meaningful kills"?

perhaps you could offer better competition?

ZookeeperJones

Just to point out something you wouldnt know anyway, the group nico runs with hasnt been a normal group for about 2 to 2 and a half weeks now. We've all been on vacation in various parts of the world. If you'd actually run into our organized group you'd have nothing to brag about