NB suck this horribly?

lao

meh double post

Jaxom

Concealed weapon plus vampire buffs equals sprint speed in stealth. I'd much rather have that. Its a matter of defense vs offense and in specific case, I choose defense

NakedSnake

lao wrote: »

pretty much all skills in assassination and shadow work off melee crit. siphoning is a pve spec anyways so i dont see how it is even a factor. before some of you mongs jump in and go blahblah siphoning works in pvp yadayada, yes it does work but the dps is low and its far inferior to a well played shadow/assassination NB and therefor not an option to a competitive player.

lao wrote: »

its not pointless at all. in my book 100 is more than 45 and given the nature of the class that particular crit is very important as it allows you to follow up with killer blade after the heavy attack which wouldnt be possible without the guaranteed crit from surprise attack. losing that crit prolongs the fight by minimum 2 rounds. that is ineffective.

about assassin blade morphs, well there is really only reason why u would ever go impale over killers blade and that is if ur using a bow. in that particular case yes ur right impale is viable but for any melee spec there is no reason to other go impale over killers blade.

about veiled strike morphs. its just a matter of efficiency again. theres no reason to go for concealed weapon as u can get the movement speed from either beeing a vampire (best option) or from using the set armor. the armor debuff from surprise attack is good cos the next attack in the rotation is a heavy attack which will hit significantly harder with the debuff. NB is all about maximizing ur dps so yea by chosing dark cloak and concealed weapon ur gimping urself alot.

Do you even actually play a NB or is your knowledge of the class just theoretical?
Siphoning is essential for ranged builds and AOE. With destro/resto/bow; mark target, strife, crippling is a devastating combo.

Yes, in theory 100 is better than 45 but in reality it makes very little difference. Any thing higher and well...

Exactly Impale is the only morph for ranged users.

@ , the movement speed passive from vampire/gear is completely different than the concealed buff.

I can understand the reasoning behind your build. Ganking from stealth and bursting to death before any resistance can be is a viable build but it lacks versatility.
So basically melee is not the only way to play a NB and Damage is not everything in pvp.

Samadhi

lao wrote: »

pretty much all skills in assassination and shadow work off melee crit. siphoning is a pve spec anyways so i dont see how it is even a factor. before some of you mongs jump in and go blahblah siphoning works in pvp yadayada, yes it does work but the dps is low and its far inferior to a well played shadow/assassination NB and therefor not an option to a competitive player.

Spell Crit on Shadowy Disguise would be worthwhile simply for Strife.
When Strife crits on damage, it heals for more on it's HoT ticks. With a high enough base Spell Crit the heal ticks do crit heals as well.
Both the damage value and the heal value also benefit from the Crit Bonus passive in the Assassination tree. Simply slotting Strife increases max magicka which adds further base damage to all other class skills.

At the moment, it is more effective as a bow user to be in Light Armour with Spell Crit, Magicka Regen, and Reduced Skill Costs and just use Shadowy Disguise to ensure the Assassination and Shadow skills crit.

I would like to have the ability to instead be in a Medium build and still gain the additional heal bonus of Strife's crit damage. Every HoT tick that pops while invisible for a Veiled Strike would also crit heal; that small bit of added sustain in combat means more flexibility to use utility potions instead of healing potions.
ZOS already spoke of intentions to modify Master Assassin passive to increase Spell Power along with the Weapon Power buff it gives; Shadowy Disguise giving Spell Crit along with the Weapon Crit would coincide well with that.

I could go Vampire and flip around my build somewhat; however, I'd rather not have to deal with the Fire weakness.