Any other 1-50 lvl players feel like canon fodder in PVP?

Rev Rielle

New players that enjoy PvP in MMOs are going to try it out well before they reach max level. We should be asking Zenimax to help make their experience as enjoyable as possible out in Cyrodiil so they stick around, and play - both PvP and the game as a whole - for a long time to come.

It clearly needs better balancing. Anyone that's been out there knows this.
At the end of the day, most of us want good tough, even battles. It's not about winning (or shouldn't be primarily), but memorable and enjoyable PvP experiences. As the population and game ages, PvP is going to be more and more filled with player of high/max level/rank. To this end it's even more important to provide assistance to those low-level players.

What level your character is shouldn't be the main defining characteristic as to your likely success in a battle. It should be more determined by skill/build. This is the foundation that great PvP is built on.

Diaboli

I am a lv 26 DK vamp and I kill vets all day long. Not vet 12s, but I never expected to. I have a decent build, so I can keep higher level players CCed and take my time. Interlopers get talons, and between green dragon's blood and the vamp Essence Drain, I am usually very hard to kill.

If people start throwing AoE fire, I run away. I still get killed a lot, but it's part of being a lower level character.

Fuzzylumpkins

The ability to enter Cyrodil at level 10 was never meant to be sustainable. I can understand you do not want to hear this but go level. See you have an issue here that is only your issue. You have suddenly decided (most likely based on QQ threads) to try a class that has some ability you feel will give you an edge.

2 things I can state that will come of us this:
-You will still most likely be unhappy (outplayed)
-Rush to reroll after a certain ability is changed and QQ in threads again on the next fotm )flavour of the month) class.

You yourself can handle your own issue as this is not caused or presented by the game. Go level. Then head to Cyrodil. Or start an intelligent well presented discussion that level 10-49 players should get a spate campaign so that those of us that stick to 1 toon do not come across the altoholic players that are never happy with a dedicated character.

jelliedsoup

You are cannon fodder. At least get into the 40s, otherwise don't bother.

I have no issue with level inequality, it's class inequality I don't like.

jelliedsoup

Diaboli wrote: »

I am a lv 26 DK vamp and I kill vets all day long. Not vet 12s, but I never expected to. I have a decent build, so I can keep higher level players CCed and take my time. Interlopers get talons, and between green dragon's blood and the vamp Essence Drain, I am usually very hard to kill.

If people start throwing AoE fire, I run away. I still get killed a lot, but it's part of being a lower level character.

You kill higher levels with a DK Vamp? How?

TheGrandAlliance

jelliedsoup wrote: »

You are cannon fodder. At least get into the 40s, otherwise don't bother.

I have no issue with level inequality, it's class inequality I don't like.

Oh o... 99% vs 1% logic lol...

YES WE CAN!

ThyIronFist

You dont feel like canon fodder, you ARE cannon fodder

TheGrandAlliance

Schallen wrote: »

Any other 1-50 lvl players feel like canon fodder in PVP?

Canons (gunpower) hasn't apparently been invented yet in Tamriel... therefore you cannot be "its fodder"...

jelliedsoup

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

You are cannon fodder. At least get into the 40s, otherwise don't bother.

I have no issue with level inequality, it's class inequality I don't like.

Oh o... 99% vs 1% logic lol...

YES WE CAN!

You mean if I was for class inequality but against level inequality that would be 99% logic? Who knows......

TheGrandAlliance

jelliedsoup wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

You are cannon fodder. At least get into the 40s, otherwise don't bother.

I have no issue with level inequality, it's class inequality I don't like.

Oh o... 99% vs 1% logic lol...

YES WE CAN!

You mean if I was for class inequality but against level inequality that would be 99% logic? Who knows......

No I am just messign with you: I know what ur talking about. Couldn't resist someone using words "class inequality I don't like"

However in terms of the OP... the logic is vaild of course.

Cody

The first 2 or 3 weeks of release, the PVP was awesome. I had a lot of fun, I died a lot, and got few kills, but I enjoyed being simply fighting other players. that moment when its just you, and one other enemy, and you both have an epic 1v1, or when 2 groups clash together, and its a long epic fight. is what was so awesome about this games PvP. Its no longer like that. 90% of people are max VR rank, and if you are not the same, you will likely die in 3 seconds. NO awesome epic moments; no awesome long gigantic group battles; no epic 1v1s. its "I see a Vr10. he sees me. he hits me, im dead" You have to go grind in PvE to reach highest ranks, just to play PvP. that's not what PvE should be for. hopefully the new pre vet only and vet only campaigns at least fix some of this.

bloodenragedb14_ESO

they've already stated they will be changing the campaigns to allow level segregation

PF1901

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

they've already stated they will be changing the campaigns to allow level segregation

Guess all the crying helped then. I hope they know how to set the brackets otherwise have fun with dead pvp zones. But if that will fail I'm sure we'll get those swell 5x5, 8x8 minigames. Yoohaa - way to go!

Junipus

I'm pretty sure that if you're having problems with constantly dying, even at VR level, then you either need to rethink your build or rethink your role within PvP.

As a V4 S&B tank templar, I still have some difficulty in taking down 2 or more 1-50 players alone. But that is how my build is set up.

In a group, I can easily sit in the middle of an enemy group of V12s and keep myself alive whilst everyone else kites or uses CC on those who zerg in on me. I do go down eventually if there are enough enemy vets, but those are valuable seconds used to distract everyone else and for me to use knockbacks or group heals if I know I'm dead very quickly.

Point is, there are lots and lots of different setups within ESO for PvP and if it's not working for you (generic you) then try and find a role that does.