Profanity

GreySix

Don't know if its this way with the younger generation, but the Brit non-commissioned officers used to be renown for their ability dress down a soldier for ten minutes straight, without using the same profane word twice.

Americans have always stunk at cursing, over-using the F word and its variants over and over again.

k9mouse

Anyone can read the forums (only owners of the game can write post on it), thus the forums are rated "Teen" for that reason.

Most people want the zone chat to be used -- answering questions, looking groups, hanging out. All that we want for people to show respect. Name calling and certain topics should be in Guild or Party or Tells -- not open in the public.

I have left a Guild because of topics and words are used there, I can not "leave" zone chat "guild" therefore, people who used should show respect by not cussing or talking about certain topics -- they have other channels for those who want to engage in that type of action.

One is only allow 100 on the ignore list -- between the bots and people who act less then 10 years old, it will fill up too fast. I should not have to used that any ways if people can have some basic common sense.

A cuss word once a while does not bug me, just when it is over used or certain topics are talked about does. More cases then not, it just leads into name calling and being made fun of. Why should I put myself in that place to ask a game question or try to sale an item or find a group? The zone chat is just as much mine that it is yours.

methjester

DireKit wrote: »

They're words. They don't harm anyone, they have no more power than YOU give them. Stop being childish, your virgin ears can handle it.

No voi vittu!

That's what I thought and i still feel that way. But apparently my one time use of the word herpes got someone all butthurt and I got the warning letter-o-doom. I had no idea why I got that warning letter and when I asked what it was that I had done it took them 3 days for me to find out the specific reason. I generally don't curse in open channels so I had no clue.

Between that and me being a V12 NB... I honestly do not care anymore. If they want to police me for that they really have some bigger issues. So whatever.

Saerydoth

There are times/places where profanity is acceptable, and there are times/places where it isn't. Maturity is (among other things) the ability to know when it is/isn't acceptable. Public chat channels are a place where it isn't acceptable. Thinking it is acceptable to use profanity in public channels shows *lack* of maturity, not maturity.

Would you walk down a crowded street and say f-you to everyone you see? I don't think so. Public chat channels are the same thing.

On the other hand, if you want to talk like a drunken sailor in a group with your friends, or in your guild...that is perfectly acceptable. In fact, I do that myself.

Hamfast

We are talking here about a game where a female ships captain ask you to save her wife, an old bosmer man asks you to get flowers for his husband and so on, and worry about someone being offended by a word dropped in chat?

I admit I filtered out Zone Chat, because I just don't want to hear someone spamming their website to get the gold you need, the tempers you want, the Motifs you are missing... I will have to check if a right click option is "Report Player", if it is, I may have to turn the zone chat back on...

I don't much care to hear the "Join our guild, BadAzzez of Tamriel, we do PVP and PVP and PVP" granted, I am not offended by it, I just don't care to hear it...

Like another poster, I spent 20 years in the military, like him I try not to use profanity, but I have heard it all many times and seeing how many F-Bombs you can drop in a sentence is not all that impressive... letting one drop now and then just happens, get over it

That being said, this game has rules, we should abide by them as best we can.

Svann

GrimCyclone wrote: »

I detest people that try to say "Watch your language please."

NO. I'll say whatever the hell I want. There's a filter. And you can ignore me.

I agree. And I do ignore people, and I use the report as well when I feel like it. But I never tell people to watch their language, unless its a guildie.

Sakiri

For the 20th time...

Game rating has nothing to do with what players say.

In fact, the ESRB states that player interaction IS NOT COVERED BY THEIR RATING SYSTEM.

So that NPC can call you a damn bast**** and you cant call someone else one using the rating as an excuse.

Sakiri

Saerydoth wrote: »

There are times/places where profanity is acceptable, and there are times/places where it isn't. Maturity is (among other things) the ability to know when it is/isn't acceptable. Public chat channels are a place where it isn't acceptable. Thinking it is acceptable to use profanity in public channels shows *lack* of maturity, not maturity.

Would you walk down a crowded street and say f-you to everyone you see? I don't think so. Public chat channels are the same thing.

On the other hand, if you want to talk like a drunken sailor in a group with your friends, or in your guild...that is perfectly acceptable. In fact, I do that myself.

I ask people what the f theyre looking at on a regular basis, ty very much.

"F you" is also an appropriate response.

I cover my hair for church. God forbid a white lady in her 30s wears a head covering. Must be a terrorist.

PS: Im not Muslim either.

/angry rant off

Crumpy

"We are talking here about a game where a female ships captain ask you to save her wife, an old bosmer man asks you to get flowers for his husband and so on, and worry about someone being offended by a word dropped in chat?"

Sorry are you saying people should get offended by that???

Sakiri

Crumpy wrote: »

"We are talking here about a game where a female ships captain ask you to save her wife, an old bosmer man asks you to get flowers for his husband and so on, and worry about someone being offended by a word dropped in chat?"

Sorry are you saying people should get offended by that???

No, that the people offended by it had to put the big boy pants on, so can the language federales.

I think.

dannymcgr81b14_ESO

The bottom line is this: It doesn't matter what I think. It doesn't matter what you think. It doesn't matter that the game has a profanity filter. It doesn't matter that the game is rated mature. According to the terms of use that we all agreed to ZOS can ban or suspend anyone at any time and for any reason or no reason. Anyone can report a person but ZOS makes the final call. They could ban me for saying poo-poo head if they wanted to and there would be nothing I could do about it.

SDZald

DireKit wrote: »

They're words. They don't harm anyone, they have no more power than YOU give them. Stop being childish, your virgin ears can handle it.

No voi vittu!

Ahhh so then by that logic I should be free to use the N word when referring to African Americans, or for that matter any of many racial slurs directed at many different races. Words mean things, when and how you use words tells a lot about what kind of person using those words.

Personally I hate PC, I believe in freedom of speech but in today's world you can get yourself in some serious trouble, just ask Donald Sterling.

"It is best to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are an idiot, rather than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Pele

If this were a game for children, I'd speak up about profanity in chat. However, this game is rated M, and I'm going to assume everyone playing is an adult. Under that assumption, who am I to tell another adult not to swear in an environment that is meant for a mature audience?

I do not login to play mother and scold other players for swearing.

GreySix

Did "mature" once have a different meaning, much as "adult" did?

Crumpy

People have always sworn their *** heads off - always, everywhere.
It's not some new moral decline...

Beedles

swearing is ok I guess. its more about how your USEING THOSE WORDS! expressing anger is when most people use them and your just about guaranteed to *** someone off with the thoughts they stir up.

gclifton58ub17_ESO

The F-Bomb didn't start out as a cuss word. It was a stamp that they would put on scripts that contained regulated material. It was an acronym for "*** unlawful carnal knowledge."

edit: omg I've been censored.

Sakiri

SDZald wrote: »

DireKit wrote: »

They're words. They don't harm anyone, they have no more power than YOU give them. Stop being childish, your virgin ears can handle it.

No voi vittu!

Ahhh so then by that logic I should be free to use the N word when referring to African Americans, or for that matter any of many racial slurs directed at many different races. Words mean things, when and how you use words tells a lot about what kind of person using those words.

Personally I hate PC, I believe in freedom of speech but in today's world you can get yourself in some serious trouble, just ask Donald Sterling.

"It is best to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are an idiot, rather than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

You *are* free to use those words.

Crumpy

I've always liked *** personally. A great word.

Oh well, you'll just have to guess which word it was.

GreySix

Found that certain names are forbidden, including historical figures. Try to post the name of the dictator of the Third Reich for example.

Sakiri

gclifton58ub17_ESO wrote: »

The F-Bomb didn't start out as a cuss word. It was a stamp that they would put on scripts that contained regulated material. It was an acronym for "*** unlawful carnal knowledge."

edit: omg I've been censored.

False http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/***.asp

Youll probably need to substitute the f bomb as the .asp filename.

SFBryan18

I despise people who get *** about words. We've all heard them a million times, so who cares? Some word considered as profanity have become a great way to express ourselves when we want to exaggerate. Anyone who can't deal with words or ideas needs to come down off their high horse and *** off.

Crumpy

This is the single most interesting thread I have seen on this forum.

Thaelgram_Westar

GrimCyclone wrote: »

zgrssd wrote: »

SCSA wrote: »

To start it off, my apologies to all the people whom I have possibly offended in the zone chat by dropping a f-bomb. Even got in a fun little profanity filled skype chat. I know this chain of events isn't worthy of a topic, but the real matter on hands is.

How does this profanity in this game work? Since it's an M (for mature) labeled game, are we allowed to say 'damn' every once in a while? I'm curious.

The public street is labeled "M" because mature themes might happen there. Are you allowed to swear like a sailor there?

If you really want to swear, do it verbally without microphone on.
If you use /zone, guild or group channel you want others to hear you. You choose to risk offending others with it when you invest time to write it down. In the grown up world you suffer the consequences for your choices.
I am not peoples emotional garbage dump. If they try to make me to one, we have a disagreement. Your weapons are words, mine are ignore and report.

And before anybody tries the old fallacy: Freedom of Speech offers no protection. Your FOS is lower then my right to be not insulted and not annoyed by you.
And frankly it never applied to this game or the forum in the first place:
http://xkcd.com/1357/

That xkcd comic you linked is the exact misunderstanding of the social and civil implications of that law that other people of a CERTAIN view always tend to use. What you truly want is censorship. You only want that to be said which you find agreeable. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoA8wBvIUAAG-Xn.jpg:large

YOU are my mortal enemy. I will never stop fighting people like you.


"He tasks me.... He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsYT8YHL-R0

KKKKKKKKHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

gclifton58ub17_ESO

Sakiri wrote: »

gclifton58ub17_ESO wrote: »

The F-Bomb didn't start out as a cuss word. It was a stamp that they would put on scripts that contained regulated material. It was an acronym for "*** unlawful carnal knowledge."

edit: omg I've been censored.

False http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/***.asp

Youll probably need to substitute the f bomb as the .asp filename.

Well that is what I was told by my liberal arts teacher in college. Who would have guessed he was wrong. By the way, after researching myself, no one is actually sure where the word came from. So his version of the urban legend could be as correct as anyone else's. That is beside the point anyway.

DireKit

SDZald wrote: »

DireKit wrote: »

They're words. They don't harm anyone, they have no more power than YOU give them. Stop being childish, your virgin ears can handle it.

No voi vittu!

Ahhh so then by that logic I should be free to use the N word when referring to African Americans, or for that matter any of many racial slurs directed at many different races. Words mean things, when and how you use words tells a lot about what kind of person using those words.

Personally I hate PC, I believe in freedom of speech but in today's world you can get yourself in some serious trouble, just ask Donald Sterling.

"It is best to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are an idiot, rather than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Sure, why not? Use them how you want, people are going to over-react and judge you no matter what you do. Best thing to do in life is just to live in the way that makes you happy and not worry about what others are going to think about you because of it.

If you wanna use that word, use it. You use it with the knowledge that people are going to probably freak out because they're over-reactionary and overly sensitive about things that really shouldn't bother them and it's foolish.

We don't worry about foolishness, personally. We just enjoy life.

DireKit

Crumpy wrote: »

People have always sworn their *** heads off - always, everywhere.
It's not some new moral decline...

Morals are a social construct created by an egotistical race that wants to think itself better than it actually is and can't accept the truth of reality and the nature of living beings as a whole.

Morals don't exist. They're merely a subjective concept. At least that's what We honestly think.

Pele

gclifton58ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well that is what I was told by my liberal arts teacher in college. Who would have guessed he was wrong.

Hilarious.

+Awesome

SDZald

" and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up!"

Now that is how you curse with style

Crumpy

DireKit wrote: »

SDZald wrote: »

DireKit wrote: »

They're words. They don't harm anyone, they have no more power than YOU give them. Stop being childish, your virgin ears can handle it.

No voi vittu!

Ahhh so then by that logic I should be free to use the N word when referring to African Americans, or for that matter any of many racial slurs directed at many different races. Words mean things, when and how you use words tells a lot about what kind of person using those words.

Personally I hate PC, I believe in freedom of speech but in today's world you can get yourself in some serious trouble, just ask Donald Sterling.

"It is best to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are an idiot, rather than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Sure, why not? Use them how you want, people are going to over-react and judge you no matter what you do. Best thing to do in life is just to live in the way that makes you happy and not worry about what others are going to think about you because of it.

If you wanna use that word, use it. You use it with the knowledge that people are going to probably freak out because they're over-reactionary and overly sensitive about things that really shouldn't bother them and it's foolish.

We don't worry about foolishness, personally. We just enjoy life.

I would ague that certain terms are not swear-words as such but become offensive due to their history of prejudice. The n-word is not a swear word as such.

Good old fashioned swear-words are universal.