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Why is everyone I know in all 5 guilds using all light armor with the warlock set
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kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »Well the old blocking shield bash attack used to be a good stamina ability before the nerf.....oh and so was the powerbash in 1h/sheild before its nerf. Oh yeah and immovable could be a great stamina skill except it doesnt give the immunity to all disabling effects as the description reads...lets see what else....
Oh yeah and dodge/roll as stated in eso guide by eso.
Dodge – players will be able to dodge most incoming attacks (providing they have the stamina to do so), either by using a dodge roll, a teleport or manually moving away from the danger zone.
Except that dodge/roll does not dodge most incoming attacks. Ever see a crystal shard incoming and dodge it? I can, except it just heat seeks to where i dodged too lol.
What else....i can use up my stamina based skills in a fight and then be unable break out of a cc effect or block yet a magicka based player can use all his magicka and even have a stamina ability slotted and not have to worry about not being able to break out or block. How about some break out skills that cost magicka hmm?
This is the best answer by far thank you for the insight, I definitely see the huge imbalance between cloth/magicka/magic sets with everything else in the game.
Dodge roll is very expensive and doesn't mitigate any damage at all. It only lets you get out of roots and slows that's all.
Looking through what kills me most in AVA its always magicka abilities, I have never been interrupted nor killed by bashes or any other melee attack. My DK is basically a mage I wear cloth armor and destro/resto staff and use all magicka abilities.
Do you think this was intentional or a major oversight at some level?
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Sakiri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?1 -
Sakiri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »Well the old blocking shield bash attack used to be a good stamina ability before the nerf.....oh and so was the powerbash in 1h/sheild before its nerf. Oh yeah and immovable could be a great stamina skill except it doesnt give the immunity to all disabling effects as the description reads...lets see what else....
Oh yeah and dodge/roll as stated in eso guide by eso.
Dodge – players will be able to dodge most incoming attacks (providing they have the stamina to do so), either by using a dodge roll, a teleport or manually moving away from the danger zone.
Except that dodge/roll does not dodge most incoming attacks. Ever see a crystal shard incoming and dodge it? I can, except it just heat seeks to where i dodged too lol.
What else....i can use up my stamina based skills in a fight and then be unable break out of a cc effect or block yet a magicka based player can use all his magicka and even have a stamina ability slotted and not have to worry about not being able to break out or block. How about some break out skills that cost magicka hmm?
Dodge before the cast finishes. If you dodge after you see the projectile itll hit you.4 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.2 -
kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
How exactly do you "abuse" an average ability?1 -
EvilEmpire✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.
Not only that, but I'm convinced blocking in general is no longer working (or at very least, not working correctly). I used to be able to stand there and block, mitigating the incoming damage. but now, even when blocking, it feels like I'm taking the same damage as if I were standing there without any shield at all.2 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭EvilEmpire wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.
Not only that, but I'm convinced blocking in general is no longer working (or at very least, not working correctly). I used to be able to stand there and block, mitigating the incoming damage. but now, even when blocking, it feels like I'm taking the same damage as if I were standing there without any shield at all.
They just broke tanking altogether thanks to pvp.2 -
Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭EvilEmpire wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.
Not only that, but I'm convinced blocking in general is no longer working (or at very least, not working correctly). I used to be able to stand there and block, mitigating the incoming damage. but now, even when blocking, it feels like I'm taking the same damage as if I were standing there without any shield at all.
DK tanking and blocking still works just fine.
Use Cinder Storm, use Razor armor. Stack a huge chance to miss you each swing with hardcapped armor. Durable as a rock when Green Dragon's Blood is factored in.
Yes, you're probably going to have to wear of the Warlock rings or 2 pieces of light + Magicka Furnace set. Either way, you'll be fine.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!0 -
kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »EvilEmpire wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.
Not only that, but I'm convinced blocking in general is no longer working (or at very least, not working correctly). I used to be able to stand there and block, mitigating the incoming damage. but now, even when blocking, it feels like I'm taking the same damage as if I were standing there without any shield at all.
DK tanking and blocking still works just fine.
You then go on to give advice on mitigation instead of blocking, nice.2 -
NoMoreChillies✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stamina is way behind magicka
lets hope for some balance
Idea: Remove softcaps.
If i want 10k HP and 50k stamina let me get it. Play how we want right?
Currently tanks have about 500HP more than casters, which is about 1 hit worth of damage.
Diversity is needed. All i see now is light armor and destro staff because it is most effectiveEdited by NoMoreChillies on 29 May 2014 22:31Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.1 -
htoncic✭✭✭Ruddertail wrote: »...people use the warlock set? Did spell symmetry fall out of fashion?
My thoughts exactly, LOL. No idea why anyone would wear that crappy set, but hey, I'm more than happy to sell my drops at ridiculous prices.0 -
EmmeraskSoul ShrivenEvilEmpire wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.
Not only that, but I'm convinced blocking in general is no longer working (or at very least, not working correctly). I used to be able to stand there and block, mitigating the incoming damage. but now, even when blocking, it feels like I'm taking the same damage as if I were standing there without any shield at all.
I have the feeling that the blocking is still working but you have to block earlier than before the patch to get the full block effect. For me the shield is feeling now like a restro staff block, this seemed always slower than the shield block.
And it seems that some of the combat animations are preventing the block speed sometimes. Before the patch the block was canceling every combat move animation but now the block will sometimes come after the combat move animation has stopped. This especially is becoming a problem in the VR9 areas with 4-6 mob groups.
But if the block is timed correctly its seems to be working for my Templer.0 -
bugulu✭✭✭Because light armor is significantly stronger than it's counterpart in medium and heavy armor.1 -
OrangeTheCat✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a lover of heavy armor, this is one of the biggest turnoffs for me.
Sure I want one, maybe two light armor guys but you sort of feel forced into these sets. Additionally why have armor rewards in all the quests if you are going to wear the same lvl 15 set to 49, get the same set in the vr1 version and wear it to vr12?
This is just wrong. My sorc wears all heavy armor and still has the warlock set. Two rings and the amulet.Edited by OrangeTheCat on 29 May 2014 23:340 -
EvilEmpire✭✭✭EvilEmpire wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »As a sword and board heavy wearing dk that was nerfed into the ground I almost want to say nerf light armor and staff
So, nerf everyone else because you abused sheild bash?
No I did not abuse it, havent even been in pvp yet. But it got nerfed to useless for pvers thanks to pvpers. I was just a tank, and now cant even do that right because of the PVP nerfs to pve.
Not only that, but I'm convinced blocking in general is no longer working (or at very least, not working correctly). I used to be able to stand there and block, mitigating the incoming damage. but now, even when blocking, it feels like I'm taking the same damage as if I were standing there without any shield at all.
I have the feeling that the blocking is still working but you have to block earlier than before the patch to get the full block effect. For me the shield is feeling now like a restro staff block, this seemed always slower than the shield block.
And it seems that some of the combat animations are preventing the block speed sometimes. Before the patch the block was canceling every combat move animation but now the block will sometimes come after the combat move animation has stopped. This especially is becoming a problem in the VR9 areas with 4-6 mob groups.
But if the block is timed correctly its seems to be working for my Templer.
I'll do some more testing next time I'm on to see if that is the case. Last time I played, I got so frustrated at the 'Watcher' I was fighting since it was doing 600-800 damage a hit, while I was blocking, that I finally just shut it all down and walked away. Either way, thanks for the input0 -
Fuzzylumpkins✭✭✭✭The answer is relative to the player but the proc is amazing. In Cyrodil (even pve) fights are fast and short burst dump a lot of magika. That proc can give you: extra bolts for hit and runs, that extra velecious curse while on the move or save you / drop players in any manner of methods. I think it may actually be better for temps while sorcs fair better using epic arcane jewelry with magikca reduc cost. I prefer to use Lamae/ willow sets to add to survival and crit for those moments I decided to drop and bomb a 4 man and bail when they yell for buddies.
Short answer: Great proc that is up often enough to be great in pve/pvp situations. Depending on your play style.
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