Should ESO get a total revamp like the 1st FF XIV? What do you think?

brisingr90

Ezrith wrote: »

While I do not want an Auction House, a bazaar location where players could gather to haggle their wares to other would be nice. Maybe an option to see what the players have to sell by clicking on them? I don't get the guild store thing.

Big YES! a Feature just like in the Old MMO. A player can make their own store. I am remembering Morroc now...

Aballister

Please no, I don't want to see another SWG CU/NGE

demendred

Only good thing about ARR was that people couldn't send you ingame mail if they were not on your friends list. And not having to share nodes with others.

davidetombab16_ESO

absolutely yes! Eso must be completely reworked, especially the combat mechanics and the class skill system must be free

hk11

worked for ff. it's now a popular game

BBSooner

I'm currently having a ton of fun, I would be against a total redesign.

darthbelanb14_ESO

brisingr90 wrote: »

I just wondering, since more than 50% people doesn't like the way ESO now, and many people have quit the game... Should ESO get a total redesign just like the old FF XIV?

What do you think if ZOS decide that ESO will get a total redesign? do you agree or not?

Where do you get your 50% number from. If you're estimating it due to comments made here, then you're way off. Game forums only make up 1% of the actual players playing the game. The voices here are the minority.

aleister

ian.freybourgerb16_ESO wrote: »

Please no, I don't want to see another SWG CU/NGE

No one wants it, but I think ZOS put themselves in a position where it is going to be necessary. I see a lot of parallels between ESO and SWG. They both were prematurely released in an unfinished state with serious combat & character balance design flaws and a major lack of content. This game needs an intervention.

frwinters_ESO

brisingr90 wrote: »

I just wondering, since more than 50% people doesn't like the way ESO now, and many people have quit the game... Should ESO get a total redesign just like the old FF XIV?

What do you think if ZOS decide that ESO will get a total redesign? do you agree or not?

No. Its fine.

Turelus

For all of those posting yes, take a moment and think about ways the game could be made workable as it is now without writing the whole thing over again.

As I have posted so many times on these forums stop and actually think about things before posting. If you have an issue with an area of the game, list the issue, explain fully what's going on, how you tested it and what you feel needs to be changed. Then go play the other side and look at the flaws of your version versus the current one.
Where you can add some data, pictures, and take peoples constructive criticisms of your idea well.

The game is by no means perfect now but I think many of the ideas people are demanding like an AH are because that's all they have ever known and expect. Rather than realising the potential of the current system after some love and time invested into it. Wouldn't it be more interested if guilds could establish their own AH publicly (like keeps were meant to be) rather than one central hub, the fact a trade/craft guild could build its reputation as being the one to shop at because of their quality products and vast choices.

Zubba

brisingr90 wrote: »

I just wondering, since more than 50% people doesn't like the way ESO now, and many people have quit the game... Should ESO get a total redesign just like the old FF XIV?

What do you think if ZOS decide that ESO will get a total redesign? do you agree or not?

If you Believe more than 50% of the people don't like the way ESO is now. Why is the game populated? Hell even the forums are populated! I say the haters on the forum is full of crap. If they dont like the game they would not spend half their time on this forum.

Alpha_Protocol

75% of all statistics are made up and around 50% of all opinions are wrong.

Complete redesign? No. Major changes? Yes please.

rootimus

darthbelanb14_ESO wrote: »

Where do you get your 50% number from. If you're estimating it due to comments made here, then you're way off. Game forums only make up 1% of the actual players playing the game. The voices here are the minority.

LMAO, did you really just challenge his made-up statistic with one you made up yourself? If you have a source for that 1% I'd love to see it.

Mikalaus

I'm not sure what many people on this thread were expecting ESO to be, but it is what I expected

The designers from the start said they wanted it to feel like an Elder Scrolls game that had the functionality of an MMO.

I feel they've accomplished that goal.

Sure, there are bug fixes and balancing issues that need to happen, but they are happening.

Changing this game to a cookie cutter MMO with an auction house, tokens for gear, etc, would, in my meaningless opinion, not make it feel like an Elder Scrolls game.

mutharex

aleister wrote: »

ian.freybourgerb16_ESO wrote: »

Please no, I don't want to see another SWG CU/NGE

No one wants it, but I think ZOS put themselves in a position where it is going to be necessary. I see a lot of parallels between ESO and SWG. They both were prematurely released in an unfinished state with serious combat & character balance design flaws and a major lack of content. This game needs an intervention.

ROFL

Oh, you serious?? Sorry!

darthbelanb14_ESO

rootimus wrote: »

darthbelanb14_ESO wrote: »

Where do you get your 50% number from. If you're estimating it due to comments made here, then you're way off. Game forums only make up 1% of the actual players playing the game. The voices here are the minority.

LMAO, did you really just challenge his made-up statistic with one you made up yourself? If you have a source for that 1% I'd love to see it.

Yeah, you're right, it's actually less than 1%, I was being generous.

Laura

poll on this

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101074/would-you-like-a-relaunch

Nazon_Katts

We haven't agreed on a direction of the revamp just yet, just wether we want one or not. But I'm sure we'll find a compromise suiting everyone's needs, no problem.

Seriously, even getting the game to work as it's supposed and intended to be working could use a revamp. Nothing much would change, really. Just that it wouldn't be broken, unbalanced, freely bot-able and exploitable anymore. Hopefully.

So yeah, it's not gonna happen. Relax.

Turelus

Laura wrote: »

poll on this

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101074/would-you-like-a-relaunch

Well by the OP's logic we don't have to relaunch, because those statistics prove that more than 50% don't want that.

dennissomb16_ESO

I think the opposite of OP. I think what will happen is the people who want ESO to be like other MMO's they play will leave, and those who like ESO for what it is will stay and that will be the population/customer base that they will build on. I realize we will always ask for things in a MMO, but if you don't like the base concept of the particular MMO, then we will simply move onto other games

Gigglesnort

The problem is that people are so use to cookie cutters games and everything handed to them and at a fast pace they don't want change or have to work and earn items in the game.
People need to learn to adapt and change, use what is given to you and adjust. To many "addons" are used to make it feel like something else, this is not those other games, it is it's own, and yes, bugs need to be addressed but I have not come across anything that is holding me back, granted I am only V1, I didn't rush through content and do have a life outside the online world.

Iceman_mat

No because the people on the forums will get their rocks off with "HAHAHAH SEE WHAT WE MADE HAPPEN ZOMG ROFL CHOPPA HAHAHAHAHA"

The game is fine considering it's 3 months old (not even). They release a *** island or whatever for vr 1-10's, personally I would ignored the lot of you and continued developing the game.

TL;DR - They why you reading in the first place. [snip] SIMPLE


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Arreyanne

Gigglesnort wrote: »

to cookie cutters games and everything handed to them and at a fast pace they don't want change or have to work and earn items in the game.
.

Unfortunately Gigglesnorts, I do not want a cookie cutter game, I want the damn stuff in the game to work.

Skill lines that don't work---- except sorc and/or DK seems they should have stopped with those two classes and said sorry no others we got's not smart enough tus mack anymores

Buggie quest lines whether they are main quest side quest, hunt for my lost toilet paper quest- I started an alt yesterday and found crap that worked when I did it on my main that is broken into 6 pieces now

15-17 hours to go from 1-15 is ridiculous, that is you do every quest and don't stop to gather nor pick up anything, thats how long yesterday it took with a new alt. Ya I understand all "it's a journey not a race" Hell in 15 hours of skyrim I'd be 25-40

Why is the 7-15 zones so void of things to kill, if you are not a designated quest spot, there are no NPC's in this game, kind of like going from Whiterun to Riften in skyrim and not seeing a single NPC

I could go on but will stop.

So if rebooting the game gives them a different perspective on things and they can make the game not a boring waste of free time then by all means take it down and restart

Wintersage

KerinKor wrote: »

Did you play FFXIV V1 or are you simply spouting something you have no understanding of, because frankly it's vacuous to refer to FFXIV V1 and ESO as having anything in common at all.

Well, I did, and I'll tell you something they have in common. Tanaka and company made the mistake of not listening to player feedback during the XIV v1 beta. They knew best, and wouldn't be dissuaded from that particular train wreck no matter what anyone said.

Do I think ESO needs a relaunch? No. Not as such. ESO actually has content (Which is more than could really be said for XIV v1) but I do think it needs some serious overhauling. And some serious thought put into how the current systems are working. And the most difficult part? The part Tanaka never managed to get nailed down? An open mind and the ability to listen to fresh perspectives.

mutharex

Wintersage wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Did you play FFXIV V1 or are you simply spouting something you have no understanding of, because frankly it's vacuous to refer to FFXIV V1 and ESO as having anything in common at all.

Well, I did, and I'll tell you something they have in common. Tanaka and company made the mistake of not listening to player feedback during the XIV v1 beta. They knew best, and wouldn't be dissuaded from that particular train wreck no matter what anyone said.

Do I think ESO needs a relaunch? No. Not as such. ESO actually has content (Which is more than could really be said for XIV v1) but I do think it needs some serious overhauling. And some serious thought put into how the current systems are working. And the most difficult part? The part Tanaka never managed to get nailed down? An open mind and the ability to listen to fresh perspectives.

Honestly, FF didn't work. At all. But that aside. seeing how most people want this to be a speed race to the top and a gear grind (just look at the post before yours) makes me hope they never really listen to people (outside of what's logical feedback) and keep to their idea. game is fine, bugs will be fixed. if you are burnt out take a break

Arreyanne

mutharex wrote: »

Wintersage wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Did you play FFXIV V1 or are you simply spouting something you have no understanding of, because frankly it's vacuous to refer to FFXIV V1 and ESO as having anything in common at all.

Well, I did, and I'll tell you something they have in common. Tanaka and company made the mistake of not listening to player feedback during the XIV v1 beta. They knew best, and wouldn't be dissuaded from that particular train wreck no matter what anyone said.

Do I think ESO needs a relaunch? No. Not as such. ESO actually has content (Which is more than could really be said for XIV v1) but I do think it needs some serious overhauling. And some serious thought put into how the current systems are working. And the most difficult part? The part Tanaka never managed to get nailed down? An open mind and the ability to listen to fresh perspectives.

Honestly, FF didn't work. At all. But that aside. seeing how most people want this to be a speed race to the top and a gear grind (just look at the post before yours) makes me hope they never really listen to people (outside of what's logical feedback) and keep to their idea. game is fine, bugs will be fixed. if you are burnt out take a break

You have no idea what I want you don't know me nor my likes or dislikes.

So stop telling me want I like. Let us compare for a second

SWTOR: Korriban do all the quest listen to all the dialogue do the two small Flashpoints lvl 11-13 when you leave can be done in under 3:30 minutes, thats if you do everything which you don't have too. OMG you can actually kill NPC's in that game that give you XP thats arent located in the exact spot you have to go to get the quest done, what a friggin concept every heard of that

And I do not want a gear grind why I stopped playing GW2 when they introduces that asended gear. And after you leave the 1-15 zones the leveling by quest only isn't such a boring watch the grass movie

mutharex

Arreyanne wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

Wintersage wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Did you play FFXIV V1 or are you simply spouting something you have no understanding of, because frankly it's vacuous to refer to FFXIV V1 and ESO as having anything in common at all.

Well, I did, and I'll tell you something they have in common. Tanaka and company made the mistake of not listening to player feedback during the XIV v1 beta. They knew best, and wouldn't be dissuaded from that particular train wreck no matter what anyone said.

Do I think ESO needs a relaunch? No. Not as such. ESO actually has content (Which is more than could really be said for XIV v1) but I do think it needs some serious overhauling. And some serious thought put into how the current systems are working. And the most difficult part? The part Tanaka never managed to get nailed down? An open mind and the ability to listen to fresh perspectives.

Honestly, FF didn't work. At all. But that aside. seeing how most people want this to be a speed race to the top and a gear grind (just look at the post before yours) makes me hope they never really listen to people (outside of what's logical feedback) and keep to their idea. game is fine, bugs will be fixed. if you are burnt out take a break

You have no idea what I want you don't know me nor my likes or dislikes.

So stop telling me want I like. Let us compare for a second

SWTOR: Korriban do all the quest listen to all the dialogue do the two small Flashpoints lvl 11-13 when you leave can be done in under 3:30 minutes, thats if you do everything which you don't have too. OMG you can actually kill NPC's in that game that give you XP thats arent located in the exact spot you have to go to get the quest done, what a friggin concept every heard of that

And I do not want a gear grind why I stopped playing GW2 when they introduces that asended gear. And after you leave the 1-15 zones the leveling by quest only isn't such a boring watch the grass movie

Did I mention you directly? Also, a sad new:I don't care what you want, I just care what I want. Also, haven't got a clue what you are talking about sorry, zilch,nada

Oh sorry I see, you are the one that wants to race to top. Well, go play TOR?Or whatever really

oxygen_boarderb16_ESO

My computer would be back to sitting idle if they closed up shop. Dunno what I'd play. ARR was 100% better once they relaunched, but if you played the original launch you know why they had to do it.

That situation, and ESO have nothing in common and I don't think closing doors, working on the game in private is the answer.

PF1901

brisingr90 wrote: »

I just wondering, since more than 50% people doesn't like the way ESO now, and many people have quit the game... Should ESO get a total redesign just like the old FF XIV?

What do you think if ZOS decide that ESO will get a total redesign? do you agree or not?

Has the whole world gone nuts and are most of those nutcases on this forum?

I'm fine if they fix bugs and get rid of [snip] aka bots and their ilk. And if it's zeni who decides to go with a total redesign then they sure as hell don't need my agreement to do so.

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mar1ano1987nrb18_ESO

KerinKor wrote: »

brisingr90 wrote: »

I just wondering, since more than 50% people doesn't like the way ESO now, and many people have quit the game... Do you think ESO will get a total redesign just like the old FF XIV?

What do you think if ZOS decide that ESO will get a total redesign? do you agree or not?

This 50% comes from where, exactly? Where the sun doesn't shine perhaps? And does the "many people have quit" comment come from the same place?

Did you play FFXIV V1 or are you simply spouting something you have no understanding of, because frankly it's vacuous to refer to FFXIV V1 and ESO as having anything in common at all.

The 50% comes from the people who wanted to be a melee class using heavy/medium armor.

I dont think a 100% redesign is needed, but they need to fix the broken classes and the broken skill lines .
not eveyone wants to be a light armor staff wielder