Do you want a full skill point refund from Zenimax?

Maverick827

Refund all skill points

JosephChip wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I love that this is a stealthy attempt to just lower the price of respecs.

If your skill was changed, the points were refunded. If your skill wasn't changed, you don't need a refund.

One skill can make or break an entire build. My entire build was broken, and I cannot play my main until I respec. I cannot afford a respec.

Bull.

There is no build in this game that relies entirely on one skill and one skill only.

Lolimpulse.

Bull again. I play an impulse build for PvE. Still working perfectly after the increase in magicka cost.

Also there is no way at all respec could cost 40k+. 100g for each skill point. The maximum number for skillpoints per character is 300. Obviously it cannot cost more than 30k. Let alone characters in their 20s with not even 100 skillpoints.

I don't agree with the 40k number, but

~22k for a skill reset, 5k for an attribute reset, perhaps buying new armor, weapons, and enchantments...it's pretty expensive.

Birfreben_Kinghelred

Don't refund skill points

Maverick827 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

If only you could get more magicka through gear or attribute points...

What you're describing is a self-induced problem.

Attribute points, which require another expensive respec, and gear, which won't even give enough magicka to cover the cost of 1 DK spell.

4900 gold at VR is expensive? I think you have other problems...

And math is for everyone. Your DK abilities do not cost over 2k magicka.

5k is about 5k more than anyone should spend to respec because Zenimax didn't refund all skills when they deliberately nerfed one of the most popular builds in the game.

As far as magicka is concerned, we're talking about re-enchanting gear. White VR1 magicka glyphs don't give more than 400 magicka across 7 pieces of armor, even Infused, whereas most DK abilities cost more than that. Unless you're saying I should spend even more gold and buy blue+ glyphs from players? To use just for leveling?

Why do you think this weapon set is so popular?

Do you really think through abusing this broken weapon set you haven't been given an advantage compared to other players? do you think that the advantage you were given amounts to less than 5k? do you honestly think that your permanent 60%+ damage reduction from blocking and ability to deal more damage than any other weapon set while doing so hasn't amounted to thousands of gold in potions, soul gems, repairs, etc?

Maverick827

Refund all skill points

bothnutz wrote: »

Why do you think this weapon set is so popular?

Beacuse sword and shield is always the most popular weapon spec in every game?

Do you really think through abusing this broken weapon set you haven't been given an advantage compared to other players? do you think that the advantage you were given amounts to less than 5k? do you honestly think that your permanent 60%+ damage reduction from blocking and ability to deal more damage than any other weapon set while doing so doesn't amount to thousands of gold in potions, soul gems, repairs, etc?

I wasn't abusing everything. You need to stop using that argument because it's bad.

For the record, I believe that everyone should have gotten a free respec with 1.2.

norcaljosh

Don't refund skill points

[snip] happens, maybe the cheap shield bashing you exploited should cost you a bit of gold to respec out of
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Maverick827

Refund all skill points

norcaljosh wrote: »

[snip] happens, maybe the cheap shield bashing you exploited should cost you a bit of gold to respec out of [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Please stop trolling. Reported.

Birfreben_Kinghelred

Don't refund skill points

Maverick827 wrote: »

bothnutz wrote: »

Why do you think this weapon set is so popular?

Beacuse sword and shield is always the most popular weapon spec in every game?

oh yea? I remember my BC WOW days.. all those prot warriors running around! god damn near every instance I did was just 4 prot warriors and a healer! so popular... so so so popular...

Maverick827 wrote: »

bothnutz wrote: »

Do you really think through abusing this broken weapon set you haven't been given an advantage compared to other players? do you think that the advantage you were given amounts to less than 5k? do you honestly think that your permanent 60%+ damage reduction from blocking and ability to deal more damage than any other weapon set while doing so doesn't amount to thousands of gold in potions, soul gems, repairs, etc?

I wasn't abusing everything. You need to stop using that argument because it's bad.

For the record, I believe that everyone should have gotten a free respec with 1.2.

If you want to use sword and shield because you think its cool or w/e, I'd imagine you would continue to do so, despite the nerf. Just like I continue to use two handed, despite dual wielding being way more effective w/o any points invested. I will continue to use two handed because it fits my build. If you are now respecing because sword and shield is now back in line with the other weapon sets, you obviously weren't choosing to use it because you enjoyed it, or thought it was cool or w/e. This means you were using it because it was BROKEN. ie, you were abusing it to gain an advantage/be stronger than every1 else.

We saw the same thing happen with vampires. They were extremely popular, probably more than 2 thirds of players in cyrodiil were vampires at any given time. Then they nerfed them to no longer be broken and required for pvp. Now they are significantly less popular, we can assume that most of the people playing them at this point, enjoy that style of play.

You can still play with sword and shield, its still just as effective as the other weapon sets. It may not kill stuff the fastest, you may not get the most exp per hour, but it is still just as strong as the other weapons. If you would like to respec to the new FOTM build and continue breaking the game/griefing other players. You're going to have to spend some of your own virtual pretend moneys!

Valaska

Refund all skill points

WW is just getting worse and worse as they go, I'd like a refund just to get rid of it.

kieso

Don't refund skill points

too late, i already paid the trainer; don't be cheap.

ThisOnePosts

Don't refund skill points

I think everyone should have 1 free respec, I don't want a mandatory "all" skill points refunded. That will be a pain having to go put all of those points into everything again when I don't want it. So why not some way that everyone gets 1 free respec on their next respec. Problem solved, everyone happy.

canghai

Refund all skill points

i heard wildstar gives 1 free respec every 6 hours

ZurinArctus

Refund all skill points

Yeah did not get any sort of refund for the Impulse change, even though it was stated we would.

They should revamp the Akatosh and Stendarr shrines to allow "selection" refunding. It's annoying anymore spending 25k to shift just a couple points around - moreso when you should've received those points free as part of a patch.

Drazticulous

Don't refund skill points

Theorycraft before you spend points..... the current cost is GOOD because it stops everyone from respeccing 500 times and makes you pay attention to what you are doing.

wizzerd_lg_ESO

At this point, I don't care about skill points so much as I just want a better game from Zenimax.

Ragekniv

Refund all skill points

I wanted to thank you all for your feedback. Some thought provoking and well articulated responses.

I hope Zenimax takes the time to consider the long term efficacy of this game and their response or lack of response to its customer base.

Catches_the_Sun

Don't refund skill points

Build decisions need to be meaningful & not bastardized by providing cheap or free respecs. The few abilities that had major changes already refunded the points that were effected.

Sallakat

Don't refund skill points

It seems to never stop amazing me how little things people whine about. This game's forum is truly in it's own league when it comes to that. Like really.....

KitLightning

Sallakat wrote: »

It seems to never stop amazing me how little things people whine about. This game's forum is truly in it's own league when it comes to that. Like really.....

Most likely its because they miss something greater to whine about in their, dare I say it, life.

Induron

I have no just explanation for my vote other than the fact that I would like to play around with my setup for free.

Ragekniv

Refund all skill points

It may not be research methods perfection but double blind stratified random sampling might be a bit too much to expect.

I believe this is a reasonable representative sample of player base constructive feedback regarding a full skill point return for all affected classes in ESO.

The request to refund respec skill points is done with respect and evidence of overwhelming support.

Please, can a ZOS moderator give feedback and forward the concerns to the appropriate chain of command that would be charged with addressing a refund of all skill points to affected classes.

Collectively I believe the good will gesture would bolster player base morale given the challenges presented by recent changes as reflected in community constructive feedback present in this forum post.