Do you want a full skill point refund from Zenimax?

Ragekniv

With the recent patch and ninja nerfs, many builds were shattered. Blizzard entertainment refunded all skill points when major changes were made to a class. WoW's respec cost was about 10% of EOS cost. Refunding 2 points for deadly bash while shattering builds is not fair. I would like to see all affected classes get a full skill point refund.

Aeradon

You posted two threads just to prove one point?

Savinder

Refund all skill points

It would be really nice if I could have a respec on my Templar tank.

PBpsy

I got my Deadly Bash Skill points back. I immediately put them back in because where the hell was I supposed to put them. How exactly is one supposed to understand the extent of the nerf without testing it?

They should introduce a 1 skill point refund token that you can use for a single skill refund.

Nooblet

I think a flat rate of 5k for respec(excluding crafting) would be a fair price. I'm not sure why players are punished for having more skill points, especially if all they want to do is change 1 morph(because the one they chose is bugged, and provides no benefit).

Crafting can be left separate, and have a larger price, maybe 5k-10k just to respec crafting, so players cannot easily swap which crafting they are doing.

Right now having to spend over 20k to change one morph, or try a new weapon skill line seems a bit extreme.

OR

Allow respecs to be purchased with AP, since AP is pretty much worthless for anything besides siege atm.

Evergreen

Refund all skill points

Refund all skill points because sometimes when a skill is changed it changes the synergy with other skills..

EliteZ

Refund all skill points

I voted yes, not because of any skill changes, but with the price of respec and how most people have to change their build drastically for VR content, I would have liked to see them offer a free (or cheaper) respec upon reaching lvl 50. That way people can build to lvl then change to their desired build for end game.

murklor007neb18_ESO

Don't refund skill points

Just reduce the cost and most people can deal with rebalancing of skills. WoW is a funny comparison, GW2 is even funnier. The eqvivalent of the ESO respec cost would be about 25-50g or somewhere around 0.001%. Do a dungeon and get a gold piece plus crappy loot, you could respect 50 times. I *** you not.

ESO is absolutely ridiculous in this aspect. Especially for a subscription game, its stuff like this that you expect to cost alot in F2P games. We dont even have to go to such extremes, but IMO it should be 5K to respec morphs, another 5K to respec the rest of the base skills (ie all for 10K) and 1K to respec stats. Simple as that. And that would still be a hefty cost.

Maverick827

Refund all skill points

My heavy armor, 1H/Shield DK is out of commission until I can get a free, full respec, which is a shame because it was my main up until 1.2

Forcing your players to abandon their main characters is a terrible thing.

Birfreben_Kinghelred

Don't refund skill points

You have no reason to respec because a passive got nerfed. There is plenty of skill points in ESO and the only reason you should be respecing is if you need different morphs. I currently have 7 points in light armour I wore for half a week and have no intention of using again, and I have 3 fighters guild ability I haven't used since vamp Nerf, 2 of them morphed. Thats 10+ skill points I haven't used for weeks.

If you are changing your entire tanking weapon set because of a nerf to a passive that prevents you from dealing damage.... Im sorry but Im going to have to call you on your ***. The onehand/shield is still the best bet for tanking... like what else are you going to tank with? 2h? c'mon... you have been abusing this in pvp and now want to respec to the new fotm, admit it. Deal with the consequences of being a trend hopping tool, give up some of your imaginary pretend virtual money and quit crying like a ***.

Tzikness

Refund all skill points

I paid for respec last week to change for a focus on using Summon Shades to pick of groups one by one. Now they have crapped on that plan just as I was starting to enjoy doing Vr content. Failing that give us a refund all skills option for reasonable gold, an individually priced option, or an "Un-morph" option.

Birfreben_Kinghelred

Don't refund skill points

Tzikness wrote: »

I paid for respec last week to change for a focus on using Summon Shades to pick of groups one by one. Now they have crapped on that plan just as I was starting to enjoy doing Vr content. Failing that give us a refund all skills option for reasonable gold, an individually priced option, or an "Un-morph" option.

I JUST respeced to abuse a skill they fixed this patch! wah!

Paralyse

Refund all skill points

I fail at math. See my other post instead.

PBpsy

bothnutz wrote: »

Tzikness wrote: »

I paid for respec last week to change for a focus on using Summon Shades to pick of groups one by one. Now they have crapped on that plan just as I was starting to enjoy doing Vr content. Failing that give us a refund all skills option for reasonable gold, an individually priced option, or an "Un-morph" option.

I JUST respeced to abuse a skill they fixed this patch! wah!

Actually it is a broken skill that was broken even further but with a supposed buff. Try again.

Nazon_Katts

Don't refund skill points

I'd rather have a class change. On second thought, nope, I'm too fond of my Nightblade. So much I'm willing to make do with a cookie cutter magicka build till rogues get some true lovin'. Think there's cookie cutter builds for every class. Yeah, it feels cheap, but at least the game remains playable.

ozgod22_eso

Refund all skill points

What I would like is to have the skill respec process and/or cost adjusted. If the game promotes players being able to have the flexibility to play whatever class/build they want, they should not penalise early adopters who may have chosen a build that works well for levelling (e.g. nightblade dual wield rogue archetype) from switching to one that works well at endgame either PvE or PvP (destro/resto).

The issue is really with remorphing skills. It's not a big deal to train up the weapon skills, and you have ample opportunity to gather skill points - but if you picked the wrong morph when you were level 15 and didn't know any better you should not have to pay 30k at vet level to effectively change that one morph which may significantly impact your playstyle at end game. E.g. some of the nightblade morphs can significantly change your playstyle from dps to healer.

If they want to continue to make it a money sink, that's fine with me. But least give us the opportunity to respec by skill line, so that we can respec morphs that we got wrong because we didn't know any better back then. The extravangantly high costs of some things in this game don't help when trying to reduce the lure of gold sellers for players.

Sadae

Refund all skill points

OMG yes! They owe us at least that much. They've proven they can't fix stuff, so at least they can let us respec around as much broken stuff as possible. There's no reason we should have to fork out 15k to do it.

PBpsy

paralysecub18_ESO wrote: »

Respec'ing is entirely too expensive, I need to respect my S&B NB and can't because it would cost over 40k gold, and I have only 10k between both my toons (level 23 and 30)

As much as I agree that the cost is stupid. You are lying. At level 30 you wouldn't be able to get enough skill points to make your respec cost higher than 15k and that 15k only if you got every damn sp in quests and zones and hit some really high pvp rank.

Anzer

Refund all skill points

It would be nice if I could respec my main (a NB tank) to be a crafting mule, since there isn't any point in playing any class besides DK or Sorceror. Of course, I've already cancelled, so I guess I don't really care any more one way or the other.
But for the people still playing, a full respec would be useful and I would even argue, warranted.

Blackwolfe5

Refund all skill points

I only answered refund becuase I wan't a free respec

kimboh

I JUST respeced to abuse a skill they fixed this patch! wah!

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If there is a skill or ability that is effective so you use it, how is this 'abuse'?

PayneTK

I don't want a refund, i want shield bash back. I loved playing a tank who does shield damage, you nerfed it way too much!! Nerf it a little but not like this!!

brandon

Refund all skill points

While I actually like my build so it would stay the same. I voted yes because I know a lot of people were effected by the changes. If we want to have an enjoyable time as part of this community, we need to respect each others needs and help them in any way we can.

Opioid

Don't refund skill points

I'd rather they just add the ability to refund the points from a specific skill line instead of all points across all skills.

Either that or possibly the ability to refund the point spent on morphing an ability so you can change the morph without having to waste points on refunding all skill points just to pick a different morph.

denicolad16_ESO

Refund all skill points

Not like they are going to listen anyway. They don't care what we think all they care about is the money they get. Free respect should be given once per character at any point or at least at level 50 in my opinion.

Maverick827

Refund all skill points

bothnutz wrote: »

You have no reason to respec because a passive got nerfed. There is plenty of skill points in ESO and the only reason you should be respecing is if you need different morphs.

This is just false. I'd need 20+ skill points to be as proficient in another weapon style and another armor style (because heavy armor was only viable with shield bash). You can't just "go get" 20 points easily.

If you are changing your entire tanking weapon set because of a nerf to a passive that prevents you from dealing damage.... Im sorry but Im going to have to call you on your ***. The onehand/shield is still the best bet for tanking... like what else are you going to tank with? 2h? c'mon...

Who said anything about tanking? Solo leveling with 1H/Shield is now essentially impossible. You're also entirely false about tanking; the most optimal tank spec is a DPS spec, because PvE content in this game is so easy that you don't even need a tank.

you have been abusing this in pvp and now want to respec to the new fotm, admit it.

I don't PvP. Stop assuming things.

Deal with the consequences of being a trend hopping tool, give up some of your imaginary pretend virtual money and quit crying like a ***.

The only "tool" here is you.

felixgamingx1

Refund all skill points

I voted yes just for the fact I just sent a ticket in yesterday asking to reset the skill points on my vamp skill line or do a full respec. They said NO! They completely runined vamp and won't help players that fell victim of all these modifications. They say it's to improve things, ok of course it is, but they fail to acknowledge we spent our time developing a skill line that got Nerfed and broken.

The_Tip

Refund all skill points

I hope they allow every subscriber pre patch to respec for free, or atleast respec your Class Skill Tree. I dont even need to, but I wouldnt mind it. I cant afford to pay to respec it at the rate I gather gold.

rusila22

Refund all skill points

Respect is too expensive ! I really want to earn more money because when you are in veteran mode you die often so you need to buy mana potion/soulgem it's expensive. OK oK we loot epic gear but the problem is people won't buy even if my price is between 800-1900gold for an epic gear. Seriously dunno what to do to win more money.

nerevarine1138

Don't refund skill points

I love that this is a stealthy attempt to just lower the price of respecs.

If your skill was changed, the points were refunded. If your skill wasn't changed, you don't need a refund.

Birfreben_Kinghelred

Don't refund skill points

PBpsy wrote: »

bothnutz wrote: »

Tzikness wrote: »

I paid for respec last week to change for a focus on using Summon Shades to pick of groups one by one. Now they have crapped on that plan just as I was starting to enjoy doing Vr content. Failing that give us a refund all skills option for reasonable gold, an individually priced option, or an "Un-morph" option.

I JUST respeced to abuse a skill they fixed this patch! wah!

Actually it is a broken skill that was broken even further but with a supposed buff. Try again.

Dark shades is always on one of my bars. There is nothing "broken" about this skill, it has always performed its function perfectly fine. If you don't know what that function is, that is a l2p issue.

kimboh wrote: »

bothnutz wrote: »

I JUST respeced to abuse a skill they fixed this patch! wah!

If there is a skill or ability that is effective so you use it, how is this 'abuse'?

You mean a 4 stack of NPCs hitting an invulnerable summon that cant take damage and ignoring the player isn't abuse? 20 seconds of AOE crowd control all for the same cost of concealed weapon? This ability has a function, THAT is not it.

In every MMO/RPG i've played the rogue playstyle has difficulty with groups, that is the playstyle. Have you ever considered cloaking through said groups? At least in ESO you have the option of picking off the pats till your ulti's full and then veil of blades the 4 npc down... for the past 3 hours ive been doing this at vr3 in cyrodiil dungeons. This class has multiple tools to use vs groups and very good sustain through reapers mark, killers blade, swallow soul, blood craze etc. Combine those with agony/ concealed weapon and you should be able to disable 2 enemys for most of the fight.

Ill admit its not easy, but it is definitely do able.