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BOTTING, Really ESO?
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dcincali✭✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wow...just wow.
as i said in the Reddit post about this topic. apparently you dont have a lot of experience in mass scale combat games.
In TSym we train our members to move well together, we even get called n00bs and scrubs by our own faction when we practice movements at morrowind gate before hitting the field. It dose not bother us.
Heaven forbid us from using Teamspeak 3, to communicate with one another so we don't run around like a pick up group.
Think whatever you want, TSym is am amazing Team of players with with one of the better commanders to step on to any large scale combat game.
Next time, before you start accusing people of botting, hacking etc etc... do a little research.
We worked hard to make TSym one of the best large scale combat guilds in the world.
go to Youtube and type in TSYM, TSym, Tac Sym, Tactical Symbiosis and look at our videos from GW2 and some early ESO videos. If you do that you will understand just what you are up against.
Did you guys guest on AD Wabba for a bit? I ran with my guildies friends and OMG the ap from that group was insane.. 100k that night alone, one group of 20 mowing threw zergs.. Was super fun.
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quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭Such an epic thread.
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
'I've never died in AvA. Undefeated!'
'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
'All the abilities on my keyboard require real skill to spam'0 -
quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭quakedawg_ESO wrote: »Those "I just turn my monitor off and roll my face on the keyboard" DK groups are cute. At least this explains your inability to count.
Yea once i get my 2 DKs that we have in group i just turn off my monitor and let the AP pour in.
Is that 2 of your 3? Or, 2 of your 7? You seem to have no idea how many you run with. I bet if you pan behind you the 30 allies following you might not appreciate not being noticed.
/dismiss
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
'I've never died in AvA. Undefeated!'
'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
'All the abilities on my keyboard require real skill to spam'0 -
quakedawg_ESO wrote: »quakedawg_ESO wrote: »Those "I just turn my monitor off and roll my face on the keyboard" DK groups are cute. At least this explains your inability to count.
Yea once i get my 2 DKs that we have in group i just turn off my monitor and let the AP pour in.
Is that 2 of your 3? Or, 2 of your 7? You seem to have no idea how many you run with. I bet if you pan behind you the 30 allies following you might not appreciate not being noticed.
/dismiss
Bad troll is bad. Fengrush runs with like 4 people max btw.
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FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭quakedawg_ESO wrote: »quakedawg_ESO wrote: »Those "I just turn my monitor off and roll my face on the keyboard" DK groups are cute. At least this explains your inability to count.
Yea once i get my 2 DKs that we have in group i just turn off my monitor and let the AP pour in.
Is that 2 of your 3? Or, 2 of your 7? You seem to have no idea how many you run with. I bet if you pan behind you the 30 allies following you might not appreciate not being noticed.
/dismiss
Trying to cut up my last post? I opened saying Ive wiped this group when it was at full force (24) when I had 7, and we did this multiple times. After 3-4 wipes, they disappeared.
A different night, there were 3 of us, including me. We were fighting what looked like about 20 people, not the full 24. Im including people that were grouped with the ball like Varus, because he mentioned he was running along side you guys. At this point, they had the nerve to *** talk me.
We have 2 DKs. And youre saying its just a group of facerolling DKs. I have less than 10 people in my guild. Ive made the offer to fight with even numbers; promptly declined. Until then, you can dismiss yourself and remain a nobody.0 -
We have never claimed to be perfect or undefeated. The DK standard alpha strikes are powerful, with good timing a few DK's can easily take out a ton of players. We always /salute the people we battle on the field.Well weve killed this group with my 7 vs their 24 a few times and they said it didnt count because we used standard and 'thats a FOTM skill'..........
I dont openly go out an *** talk people,
For a guild that boasts about AvA fighting and opens retorts with 'maybe you guys arent that experienced in AvA', well... they never siege keeps in ESO. You have 24 people or so and you literally cant manage to deploy siege on the field and hit a keep? You can run around in circles with a blob healing all night, but you guys actually have a very minimal impact on the campaign map that youre on. The best you can hope to do is distract players while others actually take keeps. Sorry, thats part of the AvA structure, and you might want to work shooting siege weapons into your training classes for your members.
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cute...completely false, but still cute.....
When you say Luvboards group, i assume you mean the guild Alacrity? Our Strat is very different from theirs, but i don't expect you to know the inner working of different teams strats. Our team is built and new strat is designed to fight guilds like Alacrity. And Yes we have managed some awesome fights with them. Not counting the times pugs were involved, we have still danced toe to toe with them. Yes we have wiped them on occasion, granted they have wiped us more times. We learned a lot fighting Alacrity, and unlike some people they don't resort to pm'ing trash talk or hitting the forums calling people cheaters. They are respectful, and quite friendly to talk with.Its basically a simplistic version of what Luvboards group from AD has been doing before though without the punch, and their ranks are filled with heavy hitters that can hold their ground 1v1 as well. But Tsym also claims to have killed Luvboards group, which gives some idea of how credible their claims are.
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Yes we started field testing this strat last Friday, and we were on wabba for about 2 hours that night. Glad you had fun and gained a lot of AP in the process.Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wow...just wow.
as i said in the Reddit post about this topic. apparently you dont have a lot of experience in mass scale combat games.
In TSym we train our members to move well together, we even get called n00bs and scrubs by our own faction when we practice movements at morrowind gate before hitting the field. It dose not bother us.
Heaven forbid us from using Teamspeak 3, to communicate with one another so we don't run around like a pick up group.
Think whatever you want, TSym is am amazing Team of players with with one of the better commanders to step on to any large scale combat game.
Next time, before you start accusing people of botting, hacking etc etc... do a little research.
We worked hard to make TSym one of the best large scale combat guilds in the world.
go to Youtube and type in TSYM, TSym, Tac Sym, Tactical Symbiosis and look at our videos from GW2 and some early ESO videos. If you do that you will understand just what you are up against.
Did you guys guest on AD Wabba for a bit? I ran with my guildies friends and OMG the ap from that group was insane.. 100k that night alone, one group of 20 mowing threw zergs.. Was super fun.
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Censorious wrote: »I've watched the co-ordinated work of guilds on EP and AD with something resembling envy.
As yet, we don't have a decent PvP guild in DC (not that I've met anyway).
I can only hope it's early days yet.
Anyway, my hat is off. I've seen some very nice tactical work like hiding behind a resource tower for just the right moment to make a rush, stealthing as a group and revealing all at the same moment (very intimidating). And of course the old standard stack-and-follow immune to AoE pain-train we all learned in GW2.
So my regards, and the next time you notice a sorcerer being a total pain in your butt, scouting you and taking out the backliners while melee is busy, hopefully that'll be me.
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TSYM_DhomSoul Shriven
This is a compliment, though I felt we were a bit sloppy and spread.Tintinabula wrote: »Ive seen what you're talking about in DAoC with the bards run buff..it "sort of" looked like that..but nowhere even close to that precise.
Not sure who told you it didn't count. I can tell you that our leadership counted it, and we adjusted our strategy accordingly. We appreciate you being able to use your build so solidly, sorry you got nerfed.Well weve killed this group with my 7 vs their 24 a few times and they said it didnt count because we used standard and 'thats a FOTM skill'..........
I apologize that some of our members spoke badly of you. We do not condone "trash talk" in TSYM and if one of our members offended you feel free to bring it to the attention of leadership and we will address the issue.I dont openly go out an *** talk people, but this guild tsym considers itself good enough to do exactly that. Trying to trash talk people even when theyre fighting 3v20, and their 20 are on defense.
Sorry but this statement is false. We frequently siege, however, we are still in testing/training mode. This means there may be nights or weeks when we focus on a specific portion of our strategy to hone its effectiveness.For a guild that boasts about AvA fighting and opens retorts with 'maybe you guys arent that experienced in AvA', well... they never siege keeps in ESO. You have 24 people or so and you literally cant manage to deploy siege on the field and hit a keep? You can run around in circles with a blob healing all night, but you guys actually have a very minimal impact on the campaign map that youre on. The best you can hope to do is distract players while others actually take keeps. Sorry, thats part of the AvA structure, and you might want to work shooting siege weapons into your training classes for your members.
I presume youre more interested in doing a single strategy of staying in a ball and healing eachother all night. If thats what you find most enjoyable in the game, then nobody can prevent you from running your strat. Its basically a simplistic version of what Luvboards group from AD has been doing before though without the punch, and their ranks are filled with heavy hitters that can hold their ground 1v1 as well. But Tsym also claims to have killed Luvboards group, which gives some idea of how credible their claims are.
Believe it or not we are a training guild. That means we take players of all skill levels playing any class/role and attempt to make them better team fighters. We are not the elite few, we are the coordinated many. #WeAreLegion
You are claiming Luvboards team is undefeated? No one beats Luvboards and if they did they're liars? #Trololol1 -
FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »
We have never claimed to be perfect or undefeated. The DK standard alpha strikes are powerful, with good timing a few DK's can easily take out a ton of players. We always /salute the people we battle on the field.Well weve killed this group with my 7 vs their 24 a few times and they said it didnt count because we used standard and 'thats a FOTM skill'..........
I dont openly go out an *** talk people,
For a guild that boasts about AvA fighting and opens retorts with 'maybe you guys arent that experienced in AvA', well... they never siege keeps in ESO. You have 24 people or so and you literally cant manage to deploy siege on the field and hit a keep? You can run around in circles with a blob healing all night, but you guys actually have a very minimal impact on the campaign map that youre on. The best you can hope to do is distract players while others actually take keeps. Sorry, thats part of the AvA structure, and you might want to work shooting siege weapons into your training classes for your members.
cute...completely false, but still cute.....
When you say Luvboards group, i assume you mean the guild Alacrity? Our Strat is very different from theirs, but i don't expect you to know the inner working of different teams strats. Our team is built and new strat is designed to fight guilds like Alacrity. And Yes we have managed some awesome fights with them. Not counting the times pugs were involved, we have still danced toe to toe with them. Yes we have wiped them on occasion, granted they have wiped us more times. We learned a lot fighting Alacrity, and unlike some people they don't resort to pm'ing trash talk or hitting the forums calling people cheaters. They are respectful, and quite friendly to talk with.Its basically a simplistic version of what Luvboards group from AD has been doing before though without the punch, and their ranks are filled with heavy hitters that can hold their ground 1v1 as well. But Tsym also claims to have killed Luvboards group, which gives some idea of how credible their claims are.
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Ive never seen you guys siege. Id like to, but Ive seen on a few occasions other people siege and once the door/wall is down, you will come inside the courtyard and move in and around. But you wont stop to siege, even if theres only a handful of defenders. I just dont get why you refuse to. Im not trying to be cute, and Im not claiming youve never used a siege weapon. But Im not making a false claim that in most if not all of your fighting on bloodthorne, there is an absence of actual siege weapons.
Our Strat is very different from theirs, but i don't expect you to know the inner working of different teams strats.
Its not overly complex to figure out whats going on there. I never said its the same as Alacrity either, they have much more of a punch, like I said.
I actually asked them if theyve fought you/lost to you guys. They said theyve never lost to you(or anyone from EP for that matter!).
Like Ive said already, I wont go out of my way to trash talk people. Your guild opened the gates on that. I run a small and close knit group and we will fight anything anywhere and have fun no matter what way it ends up. If you want to maintain a respectful relationship, you should probably recruit respectful players. I can assure you none of my guildies will go out of their way to make an ass out of themselves and trash talk people that continue to fight us when we outnumber them 5:1.1 -
quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭quakedawg_ESO wrote: »quakedawg_ESO wrote: »Those "I just turn my monitor off and roll my face on the keyboard" DK groups are cute. At least this explains your inability to count.
Yea once i get my 2 DKs that we have in group i just turn off my monitor and let the AP pour in.
Is that 2 of your 3? Or, 2 of your 7? You seem to have no idea how many you run with. I bet if you pan behind you the 30 allies following you might not appreciate not being noticed.
/dismiss
Trying to cut up my last post? I opened saying Ive wiped this group when it was at full force (24) when I had 7, and we did this multiple times. After 3-4 wipes, they disappeared.
A different night, there were 3 of us, including me. We were fighting what looked like about 20 people, not the full 24. Im including people that were grouped with the ball like Varus, because he mentioned he was running along side you guys. At this point, they had the nerve to *** talk me.
We have 2 DKs. And youre saying its just a group of facerolling DKs. I have less than 10 people in my guild. Ive made the offer to fight with even numbers; promptly declined. Until then, you can dismiss yourself and remain a nobody.
Let me guess; you feel you are 'somebody'?
About as accurate as your blather. NF
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
'I've never died in AvA. Undefeated!'
'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
'All the abilities on my keyboard require real skill to spam'0 -
TSYM_DhomSoul Shriven
We can play this forum he said she said game all day. This will get settled on the field and while I expect we will get wiped by their group, we plan to give as good as we get.Our Strat is very different from theirs, but i don't expect you to know the inner working of different teams strats.
Its not overly complex to figure out whats going on there. I never said its the same as Alacrity either, they have much more of a punch, like I said.
I actually asked them if theyve fought you/lost to you guys. They said theyve never lost to you(or anyone from EP for that matter!).
This was posted closely after my own so you may have missed it but I want to reiterate. We do not promote or tolerate a culture of trash talkers. Hopefully the person you are talking about meant it in jest and good fun but if one of our members offended you and we don't know about it, we can't fix it. Being a new game we have many new recruits that may not yet be aware how seriously we take our code of conduct.Like Ive said already, I wont go out of my way to trash talk people. Your guild opened the gates on that. I run a small and close knit group and we will fight anything anywhere and have fun no matter what way it ends up. If you want to maintain a respectful relationship, you should probably recruit respectful players. I can assure you none of my guildies will go out of their way to make an ass out of themselves and trash talk people that continue to fight us when we outnumber them 5:1.0 -
TSYM_DhomSoul ShrivenFor the record, this thread has completely derailed. The original post was stating that the only way we could be so organized was if we were in fact bots. In TSYM we taking botting very seriously and will remove anyone from the guild that is caught botting.
If you wish to discuss poor conduct from one of our member please feel free to contact me directly or in game. @Dhom
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wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?0
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✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
Si, El Guapo, they are a plethora of pinatas.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
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FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
ZOS will falsely ban your players and it will take them a full week to unban it if enough people report though!
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TSYM_DhomSoul ShrivenAgrippa_Invisus wrote: »Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
Si, El Guapo, they are a plethora of pinatas.
And if you hit us hard enough, candy comes out.
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Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
ZOS will falsely ban your players and it will take them a full week to unban it if enough people report though!
so let me get this straight.....
you know we are not botting and the new the DC strat on Bloodthorn is to report people for something false in hopes of having your competition banned? What mastermind 12 year-old cooked up that idea?0 -
FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
ZOS will falsely ban your players and it will take them a full week to unban it if enough people report though!
so let me get this straight.....
you know we are not botting and the new the DC strat on Bloodthorn is to report people for something false in hopes of having your competition banned? What mastermind 12 year-old cooked up that idea?
Im not reporting you or saying youre bots. Im just saying I wouldnt be suprised for it to happen. Theres a lot of false bans occurring...0 -
quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭Three cheers for a bot-free AvA! Time for a group hug and a much needed return to respecting all opponents! Sign me upPro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
'I've never died in AvA. Undefeated!'
'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
'All the abilities on my keyboard require real skill to spam'0 -
Numeriku✭✭Nireel from dc is always complaining in zone chat of you guys botting everytime, but its fun to fight you guys from time to time but i prefer fighting luvboard's group. See you guys in the field.Legendary Lee / Terror / www.go-terror.com / Proud member of the Daggerfall Covenant0 -
leewells✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
ZOS will falsely ban your players and it will take them a full week to unban it if enough people report though!
so let me get this straight.....
you know we are not botting and the new the DC strat on Bloodthorn is to report people for something false in hopes of having your competition banned? What mastermind 12 year-old cooked up that idea?
Im not reporting you or saying youre bots. Im just saying I wouldnt be suprised for it to happen. Theres a lot of false bans occurring...
What bans? Obviously you're not talking about PVP. I've seen so much cheating and exploting, and the same people return doing the same thing the next day, weeks on end. I'm fairly convinced that if you only play PVP, you're immune to a ban.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »wait i'm confused ....so are we all in agreement that TSym is not an army of PvP bots?
ZOS will falsely ban your players and it will take them a full week to unban it if enough people report though!
so let me get this straight.....
you know we are not botting and the new the DC strat on Bloodthorn is to report people for something false in hopes of having your competition banned? What mastermind 12 year-old cooked up that idea?
Im not reporting you or saying youre bots. Im just saying I wouldnt be suprised for it to happen. Theres a lot of false bans occurring...
What bans? Obviously you're not talking about PVP. I've seen so much cheating and exploting, and the same people return doing the same thing the next day, weeks on end. I'm fairly convinced that if you only play PVP, you're immune to a ban.
Yea I dont think theres much attention on whats going on in Cyrodill. Theyre focusing on counter acting the bots, and theres a lot of collateral damage on legit players since Craglorn.0 -
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✭✭✭For Bitz:
I got some great shots of you guys in action last night:
Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!1 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »For Bitz:
I got some great shots of you guys in action last night:
It's a love train!The Legendary Nothing0 -
TSYM_DhomSoul ShrivenAgrippa_Invisus wrote: »For Bitz:
I got some great shots of you guys in action last night:
This is obviously just a pic of a very coordinated team. If you think they're bots, you have no experience in MMO's.1 -
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »For Bitz:
I got some great shots of you guys in action last night:
Bitz: "Lets get a Rapid Maneuver on our tail, you guys are too spread out".
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✭✭✭Bitz_Maidenhell wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »For Bitz:
I got some great shots of you guys in action last night:
Bitz: "Lets get a Rapid Maneuver on our tail, you guys are too spread out".
All hail our new robot overlords!Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
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✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »For Bitz:
I got some great shots of you guys in action last night:
Lolz.. if these were bots, they would all be carrying the same weapon and be in their Coldharbor uniforms.. No such uniformity there.Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.0 -
AryaWythers✭✭✭Bots have even infiltrated the forums...so someone over there is making money off them. Never seen such a bad botting situation ever!0
