PvP is dying it seems

Oblongship

Not one campaign right now has any population over low...

I mean literally every single one of them only has 1 bar...

This is not a good sign less than 2 months in.

Bane_of_Fringe

Oblongship wrote: »

Not one campaign right now has any population over low...

I mean literally every single one of them only has 1 bar...

This is not a good sign less than 2 months in.

Well it is memorial day weekend. Other than that, Wabbajack was the only one full at any point of time. NA pvp doesn't thrive like EU, too many people bitched about pvp early on.

Oblongship

Bane_of_Fringe wrote: »

Oblongship wrote: »

Not one campaign right now has any population over low...

I mean literally every single one of them only has 1 bar...

This is not a good sign less than 2 months in.

Well it is memorial day weekend. Other than that, Wabbajack was the only one full at any point of time. NA pvp doesn't thrive like EU, too many people bitched about pvp early on.

I wouldn't blame it on the people complaining about pvp...

If you want to point a finger, I would do it at ZoS for their SLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW response time to broken mechanics and then finally after a month of waiting fo the patch it broke the game worse than ever.

Cody

Its low like that because PvP has evolved into V10+ focused PvP, instead of the "everyone can play" PVP. Allot of people have left it.

wafcatb14_ESO

a lot of the players don`t really want a fight , they are looking for low population servers where they can farm empty keeps and capture scrolls to get all their buddies emp .

soon a people start showing up that slows down their little alliance point farm they jump to a new campgain .

which is sad but i`ve seen it in a lot of games .

Arreyanne

NookyZooky wrote: »

Its low like that because PvP has evolved into V10+ focused PvP, instead of the "everyone can play" PVP. Allot of people have left it.

i think some of this is happening as well

Grim13

Arreyanne wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

Its low like that because PvP has evolved into V10+ focused PvP, instead of the "everyone can play" PVP. Allot of people have left it.

i think some of this is happening as well

Which is completely understandable. It must be absolutely ridiculous being a lvl 10 vs. vet5 npcs! They're savages against vet10s!

Draconiuos

Wabbajack had two bars+ across the board last night, and the new campaign sees it fair share of people. Most campaigns on the US server is dominated by one faction so no one goes into them any more.

ElSlayer

1) People went leveling to VR12
2) People trying a brand new Craglorn
3) People moved to Celarus campaign

ozgod22_eso

Well I think it has a lot to do with the faction imbalances - you have Auriels Bow which is totally dominated by AD, Wabbajack dominated by EP, etc. It's become like WoW servers where Alliance players all go to the Alliance dominated realms and the Horde players go to Horde dominated realms. So it's not much fun for anyone other than AD in Auriel's Bow, and it's probably boring for them too since there's so few of the other factions in there. Same goes for the other ones with imbalances.

Probably the only poor b@stards of the minority factions in there are those like me who foolishly set those as their home campaigns and are now struggling to grind alliance points because trying to earn those in a campaign where you are outnumbered 100 to 1 is like having teeth pulled.

Godless_Heathen

its a holiday weekend; the start of summer? Perhaps you've heard of it?

Oblongship

Godless_Heathen wrote: »

its a holiday weekend; the start of summer? Perhaps you've heard of it?

Oh hello, you must be new to the internet...

ErykGrimm

I was playing on bloodthorn, earlier, and it seemed like the population indicators were wrong. Seemed pretty active, especially the EP. I don't have any head counts though. Merely my speculation.

Censorious

All of the EU campaign indicators have been showing low pop across the board at all times - it looks like a bug.

That said, the population does look like it bombed. Saturday night looked empty on Bloodthorn most of the time. (Until I got bored and went to watch TV that is)

Igolbug

I used to play 5-6 hours a night, strictly in Cyrodiil. I can;t play more than an hour now because it frustrates me just so much.

The lag has been terrible since the Craglorn patch, even at all low pop we are getting bad delay, add on top of that t he caltrops bug and I just can't stay out there for a length of time.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

This probably going to be my last month till we have structured PvP and ESO is more alt friendly

savak

I like this game and I enjoyed the pve and the PvP early on but I unsubbed because in order to enjoy PvP I need to grind pve and for me that's boring to only do pve. Anyway for those that can grind, all the best but I don't think I'm the only one who wishes there was viable PvP content during the levelling process.

Reevster

PvP.....theres PvP in this game? I gave up after the first week as the game would crash every five minutes and lag out so bad it just was unplayable, I only went back for the sky Shards.

wafcatb14_ESO

yep shouldn`t have to grind lame pve quest just to lvl to max lvl to do rvr . sadly DAOC did it well as did Warhammer when it came to lvling . in Warhammer you could go into RVR at lvl 1 and lvl all the way to lvl cap in RVR .as well as multiple zones for pve content for each lvl range like 4 differnt zones just for lvls 5-20 .

DAOC had RVR areas with pve mobs etc that you could go to with huge exp bonus for being out there . as well as Frontiers which is like cyrodill, and it alsdo had pure PVE zones .

you should always have more than one path to lvl . forcing people to do the personal story and grind quest just to lvl , with only 1 zone per every 10 lvls is stupid .

and if you create a alt on the same faction you have no other option than to do the same personal story and grind the same stupid quests because there is no where else to go unless you roll a diff faction .

I can only guess they blew their budget on voice over acting and didn`t have any left over to add actual content .

Dealdrick

I really hope the population drop this weekend is due to the holiday, but I don't think it is. I'm worried this disaster of a patch has opened the flood gates of people leaving this game.

Necro

Craglorn and memorial day means a dead game.

However, there are too many campaigns.

Kevaliji

Dealdrick wrote: »

I really hope the population drop this weekend is due to the holiday, but I don't think it is. I'm worried this disaster of a patch has opened the flood gates of people leaving this game.

Yea, cant say i blame people for leaving. All thats left are people with hope and i can say at least for myself that alot of hope was lost. Im on edge if i even want to put up with this mess for another month. Dont get me wrong i really like the game, but ZoS introducing new bugs each patch and some being gamebreaking (for me at least). Makes me not even want to be a part of it.

Paulhewhewria

Hate to be a jerk,but with the veteran 5 crap and people on Scourge Campaign getting screwed its no wonder that this is happening.Then again maybe its the holiday one can only hope.P.S. I wasn't on Scourge Campaign I just feel for them.Oh also most forgot to mention the pvp rewards are bugged too!

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

I am probably not going to pvp until caltrops gets fixed, so maybe other people are doing the same? Mostly its probably because everyone is doing craglorn if I had to guess.

Gwarok

When it comes to Cyrodiil and the Alliance War

Faction bouncing and campaign trade offs being exploited.

Anything more doesn't really need to be said.

Teargrants

It would help if campaign bonuses only worked for home campaign and pve zones, and any guest calpaign would only give you bonuses from THAT SPECIFIC campaign. Then we wouldn't have factions setting low pop campaigns as home for bonus and guesting in the actual competitive campaigns with all their bonuses. As it is things like scrolls and emp in NA wabbajack are meaningless

Paulhewhewria

Oh yeah I forgot the caltrops

Relicz

ozgod22_eso wrote: »

Well I think it has a lot to do with the faction imbalances - you have Auriels Bow which is totally dominated by AD, Wabbajack dominated by EP, etc.

EP doesn't dominate the entire time wabajack is the mostly even pretty often but EP does have more people some times got to learn to deal with zergs, grabbing a group of 10 and taking resources all over the place causes the zerglings to split up and cuts off spawn points easier and for longer but camps can counter that but they still split up some

Zarkaz

Ppl leveling to V12 to come back and OWNZSKILLZ

Relicz

Kirsika wrote: »

It would help if campaign bonuses only worked for home campaign and pve zones, and any guest calpaign would only give you bonuses from THAT SPECIFIC campaign. Then we wouldn't have factions setting low pop campaigns as home for bonus and guesting in the actual competitive campaigns with all their bonuses. As it is things like scrolls and emp in NA wabbajack are meaningless

wow didn't think about that I've always had wabajack as home, maybe in a month they will close all but 2 or 3 campaigns

Relicz

Kevaliji wrote: »

Dealdrick wrote: »

I really hope the population drop this weekend is due to the holiday, but I don't think it is. I'm worried this disaster of a patch has opened the flood gates of people leaving this game.

Yea, cant say i blame people for leaving. All thats left are people with hope and i can say at least for myself that alot of hope was lost. Im on edge if i even want to put up with this mess for another month. Dont get me wrong i really like the game, but ZoS introducing new bugs each patch and some being gamebreaking (for me at least). Makes me not even want to be a part of it.

they are pumping out hot fixes like crazy this next one better be fore cyodiil lag if not i'll be a sad panda