Redguard Female Light. I think the new is just boring and terrible.

Islyn

Current: (sorry a little dark but you can still see the awesome)


New:


I have been trying to be like 'whatever' about this - but I literally just hate it. Been wearing that style since EVER (like April?) and Look, boring happened. Why?

Panda244

Older one was better. Also, no more boob windows....

Islyn

Yeah but it was a no skin showing boob window if it even was - or ya mean the Orc?

Yeah. I am -.- about this - I know some people think it's dumb but I care about how my stuff looks.

Also: I was going for a more casual look - wearing a sea drake costume - but the stupid Sanctuary Quest thing borked my costume and ESOs answer when the one they sent will not equip at all (no animation, no costume - just nothing happens at all) is 'level another character and get a new one and maybe that will work otherwise just go away.'

I mean why pay someone to change this? Weren't there enough other things to ruin?

AngryNord

Call me weird but I actually appreciate that TES do not have clothing/armour styles that cater to 14-year old boys :P

Islyn

AngryNord wrote: »

Call me weird but I actually appreciate that TES do not have clothing/armour styles that cater to 14-year old boys :P

WTF?

First I am a grown WOMAN - second - The new armour ACTUALLY shows more skin than the old. Please let's don't be ridiculous. I loved the Redguard FOR the mandarin-style high collar and regal look.

If I was talking about Bikini Armour in WOW I could see your point. I'm not.

Panda244

Islyn wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Call me weird but I actually appreciate that TES do not have clothing/armour styles that cater to 14-year old boys :P

WTF?

First I am a grown WOMAN - second - The new armour ACTUALLY shows more skin than the old. Please let's don't be ridiculous. I loved the Redguard FOR the mandarin-style high collar and regal look.

If I was talking about Bikini Armour in WOW I could see your point. I'm not.

Lawl, I use it because it has the collar and straps and overlapping cloth, the new one is just bland, as for boob window, I was talking about Orc Heavy.

As for catering to 14yr old boys, I'm 27, and I'd prefer seductive armor on my female toons than TERA armor or WoW Armor, or any other asian MMO, currently ESO offers nice choices, but it seems to me like they're getting rid of those choices pretty soon

Islyn

Panda244 wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Call me weird but I actually appreciate that TES do not have clothing/armour styles that cater to 14-year old boys :P

WTF?

First I am a grown WOMAN - second - The new armour ACTUALLY shows more skin than the old. Please let's don't be ridiculous. I loved the Redguard FOR the mandarin-style high collar and regal look.

If I was talking about Bikini Armour in WOW I could see your point. I'm not.

Lawl, I use it because it has the collar and straps and overlapping cloth, the new one is just bland, as for boob window, I was talking about Orc Heavy.

As for catering to 14yr old boys, I'm 27, and I'd prefer seductive armor on my female toons than TERA armor or WoW Armor, or any other asian MMO, currently ESO offers nice choices, but it seems to me like they're getting rid of those choices pretty soon

YES exactly on Redguard! I love it. Y re Orc, too.

Yes re new armour - so bland and just icky. I has a sad.

Panda244

Islyn wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Call me weird but I actually appreciate that TES do not have clothing/armour styles that cater to 14-year old boys :P

WTF?

First I am a grown WOMAN - second - The new armour ACTUALLY shows more skin than the old. Please let's don't be ridiculous. I loved the Redguard FOR the mandarin-style high collar and regal look.

If I was talking about Bikini Armour in WOW I could see your point. I'm not.

Lawl, I use it because it has the collar and straps and overlapping cloth, the new one is just bland, as for boob window, I was talking about Orc Heavy.

As for catering to 14yr old boys, I'm 27, and I'd prefer seductive armor on my female toons than TERA armor or WoW Armor, or any other asian MMO, currently ESO offers nice choices, but it seems to me like they're getting rid of those choices pretty soon

YES exactly on Redguard! I love it. Y re Orc, too.

Yes re new armour - so bland and just icky. I has a sad.

Meh, Dunmer Light armor is really nice as well, dunno if boob windows are your thing, regardless, Dunmer light has one, though it's more of their upper neck/shoulders. I think it looks very pompous and rich, as opposed to...... Nord, which looks ridiculous, though for Light Armor, Dwemer Jerkin ftw!

Islyn

Yeah I LOVE the Dwemer Jerkin except the extrabiglong FLAPS - omg, I feel like they must bruise my legs :P

I'll check out the dark elf too

Panda244

Islyn wrote: »

Yeah I LOVE the Dwemer Jerkin except the extrabiglong FLAPS - omg, I feel like they must bruise my legs :P

I'll check out the dark elf too

Daedric is worse, for the flaps I mean... But I kind of like it, what I hate is the middle flap is soooooooooo tiny, it looks disproportionate and awkward. Oh well, I hope you find something, vanity is just as important as DPS

Islyn

Panda244 wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

Yeah I LOVE the Dwemer Jerkin except the extrabiglong FLAPS - omg, I feel like they must bruise my legs :P

I'll check out the dark elf too

Daedric is worse, for the flaps I mean... But I kind of like it, what I hate is the middle flap is soooooooooo tiny, it looks disproportionate and awkward. Oh well, I hope you find something, vanity is just as important as DPS

Middle flap is tiny - I lol'd.

Rosveen

AngryNord wrote: »

Call me weird but I actually appreciate that TES do not have clothing/armour styles that cater to 14-year old boys :P

What exactly in that first picture appeals to hormone-addled teenagers? The body is almost fully covered in both new and old style. The new one is just uglier.

Even so, walking around sleeveless or showing my cleavage when I'm wearing clothes is so immature of me, of course... Nevermind that I'm an adult woman.

MornaBaine

Islyn wrote: »

Current: (sorry a little dark but you can still see the awesome)


New:


I have been trying to be like 'whatever' about this - but I literally just hate it. Been wearing that style since EVER (like April?) and Look, boring happened. Why?

Oh what fresh Hades is this???? Okay I like the new look but I prefer the original one greatly. Why do we have to LOSE it? PLEASE ZOS at least offer all the "old looks" as a costume option in-game for no cost! Don't make us LOSE all the old looks!

Islyn

Exactly.

Ganacampo

Yes, the new one is way too generic.

The old one looked more redguardish an was more special.

BBSooner

The new one is just a plain tunic + skirt like the other races, the old one had character, individuality, and reflected the culture. So disappointed, this is like a step backwards. Please give us the option to use the old redguard and Orsimer styles.

Samadhi

Islyn wrote: »

Yeah but it was a no skin showing boob window if it even was - or ya mean the Orc?

Yeah. I am -.- about this - I know some people think it's dumb but I care about how my stuff looks.

Also: I was going for a more casual look - wearing a sea drake costume - but the stupid Sanctuary Quest thing borked my costume and ESOs answer when the one they sent will not equip at all (no animation, no costume - just nothing happens at all) is 'level another character and get a new one and maybe that will work otherwise just go away.'

I mean why pay someone to change this? Weren't there enough other things to ruin?

Seadrake costume is from a like...level 3 quest in Daggerfall zones isn't it?

Should be able to make a new character and run straight to get that disguise if you want to see if you can get a working copy.

Orc Heavy has a boob window on live, but Redguard Light shows off both male and female chests on the low level gears.

Even on the higher level non-boob-window version in your pictures, the old Redguard style clearly looks better.

Rosveen

Seadrake disguise is changing in 1.6 and the new one looks awful (honestly, the only redesigns I like are Orc armors). So no loss if you can't get it back.

Artemiisia

we talked about it in guild and came to a theory about why they are removing all these boob windows.

Since the game is going to be released onto consuls, more kids will start to play it, and they probably wont wanna offend anyone with showing a little skin, even with a M-Rated game

One thing though, if people wanted to, they can still go "naked", so yeah there are still flaws in the theroy

Livvy

This change is just...horrible.

Come to think of it...ALL of the changes to armour, disguises, etc that I have seen are horrible.

Really sad.

Soulshine

Never fear, I am sure all old styles - including things like Seadrake costumes - will land on the crown store given enough time.

Rosveen

Artemiisia wrote: »

we talked about it in guild and came to a theory about why they are removing all these boob windows.

Since the game is going to be released onto consuls, more kids will start to play it, and they probably wont wanna offend anyone with showing a little skin, even with a M-Rated game

One thing though, if people wanted to, they can still go "naked", so yeah there are still flaws in the theroy

I don't think that's the reason. ESO didn't have any outfits so revealing that they could cause problems. Also, I don't see why consoles automatically mean more kids playing, but okay.

The most reasonable explanation seems to be that they want to sell us attractive outfits in the crown store, so they're uglifying existing ones. Pretty much the same thing they've done with XP gain. We'll see soon enough, when new costumes start rolling in.

Livvy

Soulshine wrote: »

Never fear, I am sure all old styles - including things like Seadrake costumes - will land on the crown store given enough time.

This would be oh so sad yet oh so believable.

BBSooner

Artemiisia wrote: »

we talked about it in guild and came to a theory about why they are removing all these boob windows.

Since the game is going to be released onto consuls, more kids will start to play it, and they probably wont wanna offend anyone with showing a little skin, even with a M-Rated game

One thing though, if people wanted to, they can still go "naked", so yeah there are still flaws in the theroy

Are the golden saint/seducer costumes even getting changed? Those are vastly more revealing than the Orsimer heavy.

Islyn

Samadhi wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

Yeah but it was a no skin showing boob window if it even was - or ya mean the Orc?

Yeah. I am -.- about this - I know some people think it's dumb but I care about how my stuff looks.

Also: I was going for a more casual look - wearing a sea drake costume - but the stupid Sanctuary Quest thing borked my costume and ESOs answer when the one they sent will not equip at all (no animation, no costume - just nothing happens at all) is 'level another character and get a new one and maybe that will work otherwise just go away.'

I mean why pay someone to change this? Weren't there enough other things to ruin?

Seadrake costume is from a like...level 3 quest in Daggerfall zones isn't it?

Should be able to make a new character and run straight to get that disguise if you want to see if you can get a working copy.

Orc Heavy has a boob window on live, but Redguard Light shows off both male and female chests on the low level gears.

Even on the higher level non-boob-window version in your pictures, the old Redguard style clearly looks better.

If the one ZOS mailed me doesn't work what rationale makes you believe a newly looted one will?

Artemiisia

I stand corrected. if this is true

2014 survey

Islyn

Rosveen wrote: »

Seadrake disguise is changing in 1.6 and the new one looks awful (honestly, the only redesigns I like are Orc armors). So no loss if you can't get it back.

Is that so? Well dang.

Soulshine

BBSooner wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

we talked about it in guild and came to a theory about why they are removing all these boob windows.

Since the game is going to be released onto consuls, more kids will start to play it, and they probably wont wanna offend anyone with showing a little skin, even with a M-Rated game

One thing though, if people wanted to, they can still go "naked", so yeah there are still flaws in the theroy

Are the golden saint/seducer costumes even getting changed? Those are vastly more revealing than the Orsimer heavy.

LOL, very true. Someone in my old guild used to call my Templar "golden (fill in the blank here)" and I had to quit wearing the darned thing as result since I wasn't too keen on a pet name based on body parts.

Samadhi

Artemiisia wrote: »

we talked about it in guild and came to a theory about why they are removing all these boob windows.

Since the game is going to be released onto consuls, more kids will start to play it, and they probably wont wanna offend anyone with showing a little skin, even with a M-Rated game

One thing though, if people wanted to, they can still go "naked", so yeah there are still flaws in the theroy

"Naked"

Remember the days when Elder Scrolls had nudity with pixelated boobs, then Morrowind dropped and they took it out?

Maybe you are onto something -- even the first to-console game in the series removed boobs.

Rosveen

Islyn wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Seadrake disguise is changing in 1.6 and the new one looks awful (honestly, the only redesigns I like are Orc armors). So no loss if you can't get it back.

Is that so? Well dang.

Yep. Comparison pics. Scroll up to see the female version and Red Rook disguise. This is basically the same thing that happened to low level Redguard light armor.

Rune_Relic

Rosveen wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

we talked about it in guild and came to a theory about why they are removing all these boob windows.

Since the game is going to be released onto consuls, more kids will start to play it, and they probably wont wanna offend anyone with showing a little skin, even with a M-Rated game

One thing though, if people wanted to, they can still go "naked", so yeah there are still flaws in the theroy

I don't think that's the reason. ESO didn't have any outfits so revealing that they could cause problems. Also, I don't see why consoles automatically mean more kids playing, but okay.

The most reasonable explanation seems to be that they want to sell us attractive outfits in the crown store, so they're uglifying existing ones. Pretty much the same thing they've done with XP gain. We'll see soon enough, when new costumes start rolling in.

So we have armour that is falling apart needing repair kits.
We have soulgems that seem to take forever to gain with the soul passives now.
Then we have a dumbing down of costumes.
...definitely looks like cash shop compulsion to me.