Frostcaster Motif only has 5 Mimic Stones?

Pandorii · December 2016

^ Worth costing 200 crowns less?

Carbonised · December 2016

Forecaster motif? I'm assuming it comes with a "Change Weather" spell too. Or maybe +1 to Divination spells.

Pandorii · December 2016

It costs 2000 crowns, which is 200 less than the Grim Harlequin motif.

Runs · December 2016

This has to be a typo, someone forgot a 0 or something after the 5... Thats not even enough for 1 character to be fully covered.

Pandorii · December 2016

Runs wrote: »

This has to be a typo, someone forgot a 0 or something after the 5... Thats not even enough for 1 character to be fully covered.

That's a really good point... maybe it is a typo. Probably they're expecting us to keep the mimic stones we are getting from crown crates.

Pandorii · December 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno is this correct?

ArchMikem · December 2016

Runs wrote: »

This has to be a typo, someone forgot a 0 or something after the 5... Thats not even enough for 1 character to be fully covered.

It's enough for a 5pc set at least...

SolarCat02 · December 2016

Speaking of typos, the title of this thread confused me at first. "What are we predicting?"

If it's just five, I guess I can stop debating whether or not I want to buy it, and set this as a NO. Crowns will remain squirreled away for future offering.

I only bought the other one because of the stock of Mimic Stones that came with it, making it a decent deal.

Pandorii · December 2016

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Speaking of typos, the title of this thread confused me at first. "What are we predicting?"

If it's just five, I guess I can stop debating whether or not I want to buy it, and set this as a NO. Crowns will remain squirreled away for future offering.

I only bought the other one because of the stock of Mimic Stones that came with it, making it a decent deal.

OOPS. xD I'll be correcting that!

Vaoh · December 2016

Seems about right....

There was backlash when we datamined the first two Crown Store Exclusive motifs. ZOS solution seems to have been to provide a good deal for the first Crown Store Exclusive motif (Grim Harlequin) to avoid as much initial backlash as possible and then slowly worsen the deal.

It wouldn't surprise me if what you see now is the "finalized" price, with perhaps a 500 Crown increase in the future.

Pandorii · December 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Seems about right....

There was backlash when we datamined the first two Crown Store Exclusive motifs. ZOS solution seems to have been to provide a good deal for the first Crown Store Exclusive motif (Skinchanger) to avoid as much initial backlash as possible and then slowly worsen the deal.

It wouldn't surprise me if what you see now is the "finalized" price, with perhaps a 500 Crown increase in the future.

I'm also thinking it was intentional because they added a mimic stone bundle for 1800 crowns in the featured section of the crown store. So the Grim Harlequin package cost 2200 crowns, but the Frostcaster equivalent costs 2000 + 1800 (mimic package).

BlackEar · December 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Seems about right....

There was backlash when we datamined the first two Crown Store Exclusive motifs. ZOS solution seems to have been to provide a good deal for the first Crown Store Exclusive motif (Skinchanger) to avoid as much initial backlash as possible and then slowly worsen the deal.

It wouldn't surprise me if what you see now is the "finalized" price, with perhaps a 500 Crown increase in the future.

First crown store motif was Grim Harlequin. Skinchanger is the new life festival motif from the gifts.

SolarCat02 · December 2016

I guess they are hoping to milk people who liked the Stahlrim from Skyrim.

Pass. Crown Store only motifs are sad enough, especially with very few craftable sets actually worth crafting! But almost doubling the price from the last one, too...

Nope Nope Nope.
I would have thought they sucked enough money out of people this quarter with the gambling.

Miaura · December 2016

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...
@ZOS_GinaBruno , maybe the 5 is a typo? Hope so, might buy

FoolishHuman · December 2016

Well, that's a great rip-off. Only 5 stones instead of 50 and then put the stones on sale. 5 stones is not even enough to make a complete stahlrim set for one character. And you can't craft it with looted stones. This is shameful. I was really looking forward to this, saved up my subscription crowns, no I don't even know if it's worth it if I have to pay again every time I wanna craft a set.

Pandorii · December 2016

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...
@ZOS_GinaBruno , maybe the 5 is a typo? Hope so, might buy

I can confirm, at least on PS4 NA, that the motif comes with only 5 stones.

MetSnau · December 2016

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...
@ZOS_GinaBruno , maybe the 5 is a typo? Hope so, might buy

I could be mistaken, but I believe the little crafting mark indicates that you hold that number of that item in your crafting bag.

Runs · December 2016

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...
@ZOS_GinaBruno , maybe the 5 is a typo? Hope so, might buy

I think it's showing you that you personally have 54 of them in your crafting bag. Mines not showing anything.

sickboy2808 · December 2016

I really hope its more than 5 as i have also purchased the Motif

Miaura · December 2016

MetSnau wrote: »

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...
@ZOS_GinaBruno , maybe the 5 is a typo? Hope so, might buy

I could be mistaken, but I believe the little crafting mark indicates that you hold that number of that item in your crafting bag.

Oh yes it could be that, I earlier bought the Grim Harlequin motif that had around 50 but have not crafted any yet!
Ouch then, 5 is not such an inviting number, especially compared to the Grim Harlequin deal.

Rev Rielle · December 2016

If this was intended it is exceptionally poor form. Let's hope it's an error.

JD2013 · December 2016

Less crowns than Grim Harlequin.

Less mimic stones than Grim Harlequin.

Was gonna get it but not with only 5 mimic stones.

Pandorii · December 2016

ArchMikem wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

This has to be a typo, someone forgot a 0 or something after the 5... Thats not even enough for 1 character to be fully covered.

It's enough for a 5pc set at least...

True, but that would probably exclude the weapons? The weapons are the greatest part of the motif. I don't know why they went with 5...

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · December 2016

Hi folks,

We checked with the Dev team about this for you. The Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif comes with 5 Mimic Stones like most other style motifs we sell in the Crown Store. We priced the Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif accordingly with this in mind. As some of you have noted, we've also put the Mimic Stone Packs on sale in the Crown Store (25% off now until Jan. 4).

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...

That tooltip you're hovering your mouse over shows how many Mimic Stones you currently have in your inventory. Mine says 59, for example.

Waffennacht · December 2016

Thanks, you guys almost made it where it was worth buying phew that was close ZoS! I almost wasted money on your motif!

Edit: please don't tell me it's an incentive for crown crates cuz they drop mimic stones

SwaminoNowlino · December 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We checked with the Dev team about this for you. The Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif comes with 5 Mimic Stones like most other style motifs we sell in the Crown Store. We priced the Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif accordingly with this in mind. As some of you have noted, we've also put the Mimic Stone Packs on sale in the Crown Store (25% off now until Jan. 4).

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...

That tooltip you're hovering your mouse over shows how many Mimic Stones you currently have in your inventory. Mine says 59, for example.

But don't all the other motifs sold in the crown store have a method of farming style mats in the game? The Witch Festival one was the exception.

Zenimax has this really great and unique ability to keep finding ways for me to not give them money! It never ceases to amaze me the time spent on developing cool stuff and then making it so I have no desire to buy it.

NewBlacksmurf · December 2016

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...
@ZOS_GinaBruno , maybe the 5 is a typo? Hope so, might buy

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We checked with the Dev team about this for you. The Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif comes with 5 Mimic Stones like most other style motifs we sell in the Crown Store. We priced the Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif accordingly with this in mind. As some of you have noted, we've also put the Mimic Stone Packs on sale in the Crown Store (25% off now until Jan. 4).

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...

That tooltip you're hovering your mouse over shows how many Mimic Stones you currently have in your inventory. Mine says 59, for example.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Hmm that's pretty bad

Considering you're selling something that's crown exclusive but you're not even providing enough function to actually use this

You can't even craft a full set visually which doesn't require all slots but my point is this is a very bad decision to double charge vs bundling the discounted style items with the limited time motif

Are you all hurting financially or is it as it seems, greed?
Sorry to be blunt but it's a question worth asking from comparison of a similar event previously and how the things like race change are removing skill points permanently but you have ppl thinking to buy skill reset Scrolls may fix it

Please reply as this is concerning

Loralai_907 · December 2016

Wow lol. I was pretty bummed that I didn't have enough crowns to buy this, because to be honest, who wouldn't want this motif? Now, I don't feel bad about it. Happy Holidays!

MasterSpatula · December 2016

1. The introduction of Crown Exclusive motifs.
2. The introduction of Crown Crates.
3. This.

A troubling trend, to be sure. I'm very eager for a positive trend of some kind.

White wabbit · December 2016

Yep annoying that I will have to use crown store mimic stones to make more sets of this

Pandorii · December 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We checked with the Dev team about this for you. The Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif comes with 5 Mimic Stones like most other style motifs we sell in the Crown Store. We priced the Stalhrim Frostcaster Style Motif accordingly with this in mind. As some of you have noted, we've also put the Mimic Stone Packs on sale in the Crown Store (25% off now until Jan. 4).

Miaura wrote: »

Hmm, it says 5 in the picture of the stones, but if you hover your mouse over the stones pic, it shows a tiny 54 and the crafting mark in the right corner, above "bind on pickup". Did not buy so can not say anything more certain...

That tooltip you're hovering your mouse over shows how many Mimic Stones you currently have in your inventory. Mine says 59, for example.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Thank you so much for clarifying this. At least we can all rest knowing that what is in the store is what we get if we choose to buy.

This isn't particularly aimed at the devs, maybe the marketing team, but I don't think the Frostcaster motif is like the other motifs in the store that come with 5 mimic stones. Those motifs are not crown store exclusive. I think that it is like the Grim Harlequin motif, which cost 2200 crowns and came with 54 mimic stones. The only difference between the two is the appearance of the style, but the item types are identical. One costs 2200, and the other (even with discounted mimic stones) costs ~3800.

That said, I still bought it, but excuse me for thinking practically and realistically speaking that the business practice is a bit shady, or inconsistent at most.