If Cyrodiil lag was instantly fixed if we were all stick figures, would you still play?

Uberkull · January 2016

If Cyrodiil lag was instantly fixed by removing all character models, yet spells and abilities still displayed as normal....would you still play ESO pvp?

Weberda · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

Actually I think it would be more fun if they eliminated most of the skills instead and just gave everybody a club or a slingshot.

Sausage · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

Hell no, I hope they improve Cyrodil. Add more Castles, especially for each Alliance, Castle upgrades, more interesting landscape, more siege weapons like ladders, siege towers, mammoth-gate-destoyers etc. Cyrodil just looks cheap.

Troneon · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

Gameplay.

vamp_emily · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

Uberkull · January 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

The lag has nothing to do with bandwidth, unfortunately.

Sallington · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

That has nothing to do with the performance issues in Cyrodil.

robkrush · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

My nord DK would look like he had three legs. It'd confuse the enemy and they'd qq.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

LOLwhat game is that photo from...its looks like Guild Wars

Wollust · January 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

lol do you even cyrodiil brah

Korah_Eaglecry · January 2016

Neither, while the presence of players has a factor in the issue of lag. Its not the only thing. As explained by Wheeler, because of things like Siege Machines the Server has to track a larger space. So theres more back and forth going on there. On top of that the abilities, passives and CP have a part in it as well.

Stick figures would not fix the problem. Although it might relieve some of the lag.

Ourorboros · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

robkrush wrote: »

My nord DK would look like he had three legs. It'd confuse the enemy and they'd qq.

Must be because you're missing an arm.

robkrush · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

Ourorboros wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

My nord DK would look like he had three legs. It'd confuse the enemy and they'd qq.

Must be because you're missing an arm.

Only need one arm to drink mead mate!

ChuckyPayne · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

) 1 April 2008. Good old memories. The day before I got out of obsidian armor I was a little grumpy that I can not see on the first day my elite armor

Otherwise Guild Wars 2 had the same issue with WvsWvsW, they found a very good soltution. You can switch off models if your machine old etc.

Uberkull · January 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

LOLwhat game is that photo from...its looks like Guild Wars

It was Guild Wars.

ArenaNet played an April Fools joke on the players. Players were turned into Stick Figures for April 1st.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

LOLwhat game is that photo from...its looks like Guild Wars

It was Guild Wars. ArenaNet played an April Fools joke on the players. Players were turned into Stick Figures for April 1st.

I was on back then....its was crazy. I didn't stay long tho

ralonasan · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

Yes, the *** game needs to work properly FFS. it's been almost two years.

vamp_emily · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

Sallington wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

That has nothing to do with the performance issues in Cyrodil.

I think it does the faster information can travel from the client to the server and back to the client, the better performance you will get.

But of course you are correct, 1 gig per second ( upload and download ) would not increase performance. Lets just move back in time instead of being innovative and moving forward.

Wollust · January 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

That has nothing to do with the performance issues in Cyrodil.

I think it does the faster information can travel from the client to the server and back to the client, the better performance you will get.

But of course you are correct, 1 gig per second ( upload and download ) would not increase performance. Lets just move back in time instead of being innovative and moving forward.

It doesn't matter if you have 10000000 gig/s if the server can't handle the information anyway.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

I will say this tho. cause the photo is hilarious BUT it leads to the right ideas. @ZOS_RichLambert

=Each Alliance should all wear the exact same three outfits. (Light armor, Medium or Heavy)
-Let each player choose in settings what shows up. This drastically reduces what needs to load and such.
-results in 9 outfits and to be honest, I'd make these almost exactly the same other than a few minor differences to stand out such as the head, and shoulders only. I wouldn't even use a male and female filter but you would need to show male/female. Race would also be something to consider, consolidating for performance reasons.

AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO INSERT THE LONG ASKED FOR Costumes seen in the video.

Weapons would also follow this. each type would have the exact same artwork.

So regarding any loading of textures, it becomes very simple...even going overboard, to 3 distinct outfits. (One for each alliance)

I would play and I don't see many complaints to this method, if it resolves the lag and such.

riverdragon72 · January 2016

The problems in cyrodiil have nothing to do with character graphics.

ItsGlaive · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

Cyrodiil problems will be fixed when ZOS finally bites the bullet and invest in the hardware neccessary to operate a zone of its size.

All of this tweaking spells and removing deer destracts from the real issue, which is that the hardware cannot process everything going on in the zone at once, and that the fix for that of course is better hardware.

If a player's PC can't render everything at max settings, they don't tell the developer to trim back on the graphics and eye candy. That's the approach that Cyrodiil fixes are currently taking.

Draxys · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

I already have to play on low settings to even get enough frames to participate, so whatever works

NewBlacksmurf · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

riverdragon72 wrote: »

The problems in cyrodiil have nothing to do with character grraphics.

I'll say this....on consoles, we don't have nearly the lag compared to PC. Our models load as shadows first so...are you sure it's not related cause it seems likely that it is.

Uberkull · January 2016

Xabien wrote: »

Cyrodiil problems will be fixed when ZOS finally bites the bullet and invest in the hardware neccessary to operate a zone of its size.

All of this tweaking spells and removing deer destracts from the real issue, which is that the hardware cannot process everything going on in the zone at once, and that the fix for that of course is better hardware.

If a player's PC can't render everything at max settings, they don't tell the developer to trim back on the graphics and eye candy. That's the approach that Cyrodiil fixes are currently taking.

Not according to ZOS...

This is not a situation where we can just add more hardware. Player population in a given area hurts the performance and the more people that are in one area, the more performance is going to be hurt.

Link

Valen_Byte · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

Ive tried many other mmos. I never made it past the free trial in WoW...and i tried several times. Never made it to max lvl in Gw2 either.

Same problem with both of those games. They are just simply unbearable to look at.

Autolycus · January 2016

Half of cyrodiil is already sticks, b/c skeleton polymorph OP.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Yes, gameplay over looks

uberkull wrote: »

Xabien wrote: »

Cyrodiil problems will be fixed when ZOS finally bites the bullet and invest in the hardware neccessary to operate a zone of its size.

All of this tweaking spells and removing deer destracts from the real issue, which is that the hardware cannot process everything going on in the zone at once, and that the fix for that of course is better hardware.

If a player's PC can't render everything at max settings, they don't tell the developer to trim back on the graphics and eye candy. That's the approach that Cyrodiil fixes are currently taking.

Not according to ZOS...

This is not a situation where we can just add more hardware. Player population in a given area hurts the performance and the more people that are in one area, the more performance is going to be hurt.

Link

Couldn't they just cut max server poplulation by about 20% or something? I'm sure that would help.

Recremen · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

I voted for "I need my vanity", but what I actually mean is "character appearance generally takes up an extremely small amount of information, cutting the possible combinations in half reduces the cost of appearance by only a single bit, so trying to curb the lag by reducing possible character appearance combinations is futile." One of the chief limiting factors is going to be the number of messages the servers have to send/receive all at once, that's why they're trying to focus more on player behavior than anything else. Did we all really think the giant Cyro map was supposed to handle every player from every faction stacked in one section of it? Their original "hundreds of players on screen at once" advertisement notwithstanding, of course. They kinda bit the boot on that one.

vamp_emily · January 2016

No, I need my vanity

Wollust wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

lol do you even cyrodiil brah

Yes I do. I have 1 assault rank 7, 2 assault rank 6's, and a few others. I some times play in Azora Star but don't like it much because its more less guilds running around in balls. I am a kind of an outsider.. not really involved in any guild.

Wollust · January 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

lol do you even cyrodiil brah

lol I more than likely play in Cyro more than you do.

I know the lag you are speaking of, but 90 percent of the time I don't play in that campaign. And recently I have played there and it has not been that bad as far

Wollust wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

No. I think everyone should have google fiber.. problem solved.

lol do you even cyrodiil brah

Yes I do. I have 1 assault rank 7, 2 assault rank 6's, and a few others. I some times play in Azora Star but don't like it much because its more less guilds running around in balls. I am a kind of an outsider.. not really involved in any guild.

ye... no I definitely have more playtime in Cyrodiil just considering your assault ranks.
I don't bother going into Azuras much anymore, simply because the lag is too much. No connection in the world can change something about that. You don't seem to know much more than the costumer service who suggests restarting computer and router and whatever.

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