Is Wrothgar World Boss Quest Sharing Intended? UPDATE - "It's Intended"
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Title says it all. If the sharing of these quests is unintended, then please post your indisputable proof. Proof that counts as indisputable is the written or spoken word of a game developer or community manager. Thank you.
UPDATE
UPDATE
ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »It's intended.
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TERMINAT0R_XVII✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »Title says it all. If the sharing of these quests is unintended, then please post your indisputable proof. Proof that counts as indisputable is the written or spoken word of a game developer or community manager. Thank you.
You are talking about when you are in the area of the world boss right when someone kills the boss and then it completes the quest for you. Is that what you're talking about?Xbox one NA server
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✭✭✭TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »Title says it all. If the sharing of these quests is unintended, then please post your indisputable proof. Proof that counts as indisputable is the written or spoken word of a game developer or community manager. Thank you.
You are talking about when you are in the area of the world boss right when someone kills the boss and then it completes the quest for you. Is that what you're talking about?
He is talking about the fact that you can only pick up one world boss quest a day but people can share the other 5 so that you can do all 6 world boss quests a day. You cannot however pick up a share from a quest you have already done that day so only one quest per boss per day. That is how it currently works, intended or not.3 -
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✭✭That's a great question. With zone chat packed full of "LFG WB (name) will share quest" and "type X for (quest name) group" it's starting to sound like the new Craglorn up in there.
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✭✭✭✭TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »Title says it all. If the sharing of these quests is unintended, then please post your indisputable proof. Proof that counts as indisputable is the written or spoken word of a game developer or community manager. Thank you.
You are talking about when you are in the area of the world boss right when someone kills the boss and then it completes the quest for you. Is that what you're talking about?
No, I am talking about players using the quest sharing option, done by highlighting a quest in the journal and then pressing the share button. This is being done in order to complete multiple Wrothgar World Boss dailies a day.
I already asked @ZOS_GinaBruno about this, but got no response. Gina, just this one time, get a response to me as I find this issue is important and I want to take a pro-quest sharing stance which could change the development teams mind in case that the development team is considering removing this quest sharing ability.Edited by Personofsecrets on November 13, 2015 8:56PMRest in Peace:
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TERMINAT0R_XVII✭✭✭Oooohh ok, I'm not so sure this is intended. This would be a game breaking bug IMO. It defeats the whole one per day mechanic. Let's hope it is a bug.Xbox one NA server
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✭✭✭✭TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Oooohh ok, I'm not so sure this is intended. This would be a game breaking bug IMO. It defeats the whole one per day mechanic. Let's hope it is a bug.
No, let's hope that it is intended so we have a feasible chance of getting the gear that we want within the century.Rest in Peace:
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Lynnessa✭✭✭✭TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Oooohh ok, I'm not so sure this is intended. This would be a game breaking bug IMO. It defeats the whole one per day mechanic. Let's hope it is a bug.
I hope it's not a bug... it's a fun group activity, and a sort of bonus reward for working together (I mean, to do all 6 bosses requires at least 6 people, usually more).5 -
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✭✭I noticed some groups were recruiting people based on what quests they have picked up so they can share with everyone else. If this is totally fine I'll jump on board this weekend but if it's an exploit I won't. At any rate it seems the new solo zone has a very popular group activity!
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✭✭✭✭TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Oooohh ok, I'm not so sure this is intended. This would be a game breaking bug IMO. It defeats the whole one per day mechanic. Let's hope it is a bug.
I hope it's not a bug... it's a fun group activity, and a sort of bonus reward for working together (I mean, to do all 6 bosses requires at least 6 people, usually more).
Thank you @Lynnessa , I will be dumbfounded if this sharing option is removed in the upcoming patch.Rest in Peace:
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Yeah, this is definitely my opinion on it. I actually didn't realize that the sharing was the only way you could do more than one of these dailies per day - I haven't really gotten to the point in Wrothgar yet where I'm actively seeking to do dailies - I'm just grabbing one here and there as it's convenient to me.TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Oooohh ok, I'm not so sure this is intended. This would be a game breaking bug IMO. It defeats the whole one per day mechanic. Let's hope it is a bug.
I hope it's not a bug... it's a fun group activity, and a sort of bonus reward for working together (I mean, to do all 6 bosses requires at least 6 people, usually more).
I think this is a great way to encourage people to be social and group up, though. It also makes for great guild events - particularly as these are so viable as a group event for characters of a wide range of levels, thanks to the battle leveling.
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✭You mean, with the shared quest you can do all six every day?
Damn, I have been doing just the one that I picked up each day.
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✭✭considering the achi for doing it 30 times is called MONTHLY, i expect its unintendedPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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✭✭✭✭I noticed some groups were recruiting people based on what quests they have picked up so they can share with everyone else. If this is totally fine I'll jump on board this weekend but if it's an exploit I won't. At any rate it seems the new solo zone has a very popular group activity!
And thats what it really needs for longevity IMO. This includes vMA - it needs a group challenge so that players can at least have some good discussion and teamwork rather than isolation.Rest in Peace:
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✭✭✭✭considering the achi for doing it 30 times is called MONTHLY, i expect its unintended
Yes @dsalter , thank you for pointing this out. I still hope for an indisputable proof as discussed in the OP.
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Yeah, this is definitely my opinion on it. I actually didn't realize that the sharing was the only way you could do more than one of these dailies per day - I haven't really gotten to the point in Wrothgar yet where I'm actively seeking to do dailies - I'm just grabbing one here and there as it's convenient to me.TERMINAT0R_XVII wrote: »Oooohh ok, I'm not so sure this is intended. This would be a game breaking bug IMO. It defeats the whole one per day mechanic. Let's hope it is a bug.
I hope it's not a bug... it's a fun group activity, and a sort of bonus reward for working together (I mean, to do all 6 bosses requires at least 6 people, usually more).
I think this is a great way to encourage people to be social and group up, though. It also makes for great guild events - particularly as these are so viable as a group event for characters of a wide range of levels, thanks to the battle leveling.
I have ran a guild event every day this week and have gotten a lot of interest everyday.Rest in Peace:
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Lynnessa✭✭✭✭RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »You mean, with the shared quest you can do all six every day?
Damn, I have been doing just the one that I picked up each day.
Yeah, you will see something in zone chat like "LFM Mad Ogre can share quest". If you haven't done that boss yet, you can join the group and they will share the appropriate daily with you
The quests can reward decent gear on turn in.Edited by Lynnessa on November 13, 2015 9:11PM0 -
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✭✭I'd love it if this stays, but i got a feeling...
Same could have been said for the old Crag grinds, too. It was a fun group/social activity. I still miss the Burial, Anomaly and upper boss grinds.
Meanwhile, I'll keep bossing along.Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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✭✭✭✭✭I grouped with some people to do a world boss and was offered a quest. At the time, I didn't even know that the world bosses were daily quests. I'm used to the other zones where you just walk up and kill the stupid bosses. I guess I need to look around more.
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✭✭✭✭They give you a very small chance at good loot, but you might as well be doing them.Rest in Peace:
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✭✭lordrichter wrote: »I grouped with some people to do a world boss and was offered a quest. At the time, I didn't even know that the world bosses were daily quests. I'm used to the other zones where you just walk up and kill the stupid bosses. I guess I need to look around more. Are those daily quests worth doing?
Briarheart, Trinimac's Valor and Pariah sets plus stuff.Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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✭As a PvP player, can somebody please explain what that is even an issue?! What's the point of only giving a quest as a daily? Is that developers trying to extend the lifetime of content by not allowing you to go through it at your own pace?
Seem to recall reading some explanation of it being implemented like this in PvE games with BoE items to prevent somebody farming something over and over .. or making sure chinese gold seller sites can't farm and sell the stuff... but they made everything friggin BoP in Wrothgar.. so why can't you do 2 of these world boss quests or whatever when you have time?!
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Also, everyone is given different WB missions. If they are not shareable, imagine trying to find a group of people who all happened to get the same WB as you. I wouldn't even attempt it.2 -
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Yes. Yes they are. You get rewards containers for doing them that can drop VR15-16 BoP gear.lordrichter wrote: »I grouped with some people to do a world boss and was offered a quest. At the time, I didn't even know that the world bosses were daily quests. I'm used to the other zones where you just walk up and kill the stupid bosses. I guess I need to look around more. Are those daily quests worth doing?
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Yeah, I totally agree with this, and since the world bosses in Wrothgar (unlike in other zones) are actually incredibly difficult (if not nearly impossible for 99% of players) to solo, having the quest sharing mechanism to encourage people to group up for them is a good thing IMO.I think it is perfect the way it is, just what wrothgar needs to bring people together for fun group content and a good way to get the gear that is otherwise out of reach for most people due to bop and horrible rng. Or else we get one WB daily, only about 10 minutes of content.
Also, everyone is given different WB missions. If they are not shareable, imagine trying to find a group of people who all happened to get the same WB as you. I wouldn't even attempt it.
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Hooray! Awesome Rich! Glad to hear it! Another example of good design in Wrothgar.ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »It's intended.
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TERMINAT0R_XVII✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »It's intended.
Aww man now look what you guys did, he's upset now....Xbox one NA server
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✭I think it is perfect the way it is, just what wrothgar needs to bring people together for fun group content and a good way to get the gear that is otherwise out of reach for most people due to bop and horrible rng. Or else we get one WB daily, only about 10 minutes of content.
Also, everyone is given different WB missions. If they are not shareable, imagine trying to find a group of people who all happened to get the same WB as you. I wouldn't even attempt it.
Agree. I grouped up with some guildies the other night to help them do one boss, what was going to be a 5 minute task turned into over an hour of social gaming as we went on to do more bosses...NA PC | AD
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