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Set Bonus Exploits Must Be Fixed
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It is imperative that these exploits are patched before IC goes live. People are using this to get double-mundus, Necropotence buff and god knows what other buffs it works with without even wearing the sets. I have yet to see anyone from ZoS Acknowledge this bug yet alone mention that a fix was in the works for it.
I'm tired of fighting people who I know are using these exploits and will even admit they are using them because "everyone" is using them. It's breaking the competitive environment that is necessary for an enjoyable PvP experience.
@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we get some kind of response on this? The rampant abuse of this exploit is getting ridiculous.
I'm tired of fighting people who I know are using these exploits and will even admit they are using them because "everyone" is using them. It's breaking the competitive environment that is necessary for an enjoyable PvP experience.
@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we get some kind of response on this? The rampant abuse of this exploit is getting ridiculous.
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Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭Geez @Ezareth, they had almost sweeped this under the rug, and you just had to go and ruin it.3 -
Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
Wow, I stand corrected.
That's great news.0 -
GloryClass RepresentativeZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
You guys are killing it. Keep on going!mDK will rise again.
Rebuild Necromancer pet AI.
@Glorious since I have too many characters to list
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✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
You are flipping the script on our mood for 1.7. Keep it up.Edited by Armitas on August 7, 2015 5:13PMRetired.
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✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
And people abusing the bugs until then get a free pass? Exploit early, exploit often still the ZOS moto?
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amasuriel✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
And people abusing the bugs until then get a free pass? Exploit early, exploit often still the ZOS moto?
Its the test server designed to find bug, not be competitive PvP.
Just be thrilled they didn't announce it was "working as intended" or not say anything. I think the Spell and Armor pen code must be written in hieroglyphics, because apparently that s**t is unfixable.
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✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
And people abusing the bugs until then get a free pass? Exploit early, exploit often still the ZOS moto?
Its the test server designed to find bug, not be competitive PvP.
Just be thrilled they didn't announce it was "working as intended" or not say anything. I think the Spell and Armor pen code must be written in hieroglyphics, because apparently that s**t is unfixable.
These bugs are being exploited on teh Live server...DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
Awesome!
With the recent updates you've filled us in on 2.1 Is shaping up to be the best major content release since the launch of the game!
WIll the Overload toggle-exploit be fixed with the patch as well or is that hoping for too much? It doesn't have nearly as great of an impact but it's been around for ages.ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
And people abusing the bugs until then get a free pass? Exploit early, exploit often still the ZOS moto?
Its the test server designed to find bug, not be competitive PvP.
Just be thrilled they didn't announce it was "working as intended" or not say anything. I think the Spell and Armor pen code must be written in hieroglyphics, because apparently that s**t is unfixable.
He announced that sharpened and penetration champion points will be fixed in the next patch as well.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
And people abusing the bugs until then get a free pass? Exploit early, exploit often still the ZOS moto?
Its the test server designed to find bug, not be competitive PvP.These bugs are being exploited on teh Live server...0 -
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✭Was going to say how about the overload exploit. That would be the icing on the cake.
It'll be interesting to see the state of pvp with all these exploits fixed.0 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
Awesome!
With the recent updates you've filled us in on 2.1 Is shaping up to be the best major content release since the launch of the game!
WIll the Overload toggle-exploit be fixed with the patch as well or is that hoping for too much? It doesn't have nearly as great of an impact but it's been around for ages.
Not in the next PTS patch, but we are working on a fix and plan to have it out before this update is published.7 -
k2blader✭✭✭✭✭[edit] My bad, just saw the post above.
Isn't there a maces bug too that needs fixing?
Edited by k2blader on August 7, 2015 8:46PMDisabling the grass may improve performance.1 -
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✭[edit] My bad, just saw the post above.
Isn't there a maces bug too that needs fixing?
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✭✭✭✭[edit] My bad, just saw the post above.
Isn't there a maces bug too that needs fixing?
The issue is actually with sharpened and the way it stacks not maces themselves I believe.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
Awesome!
With the recent updates you've filled us in on 2.1 Is shaping up to be the best major content release since the launch of the game!
WIll the Overload toggle-exploit be fixed with the patch as well or is that hoping for too much? It doesn't have nearly as great of an impact but it's been around for ages.
Not in the next PTS patch, but we are working on a fix and plan to have it out before this update is published.
Nothing but great news!
Next you'll be telling us you're putting the Deer back in Cyrodiil!
Edited by Ezareth on August 7, 2015 8:50PMPermanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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OK, as long as it's fixed that is cool. :-D
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r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »
Or it's not been this forum post, but half a year of bug reports? You never know...
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Where did Rich's full original post go?
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Lykurgis✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
And people abusing the bugs until then get a free pass? Exploit early, exploit often still the ZOS moto?
Pretty much, for proof ...look at the leaderboards....you think any bans are going out for double mundas, Necropotence, ect?
I think not.We Kill Bosses (NA Server, AD)
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✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »
I've done that and moved on. Thankless job with an uncertain future, no thanks! But I'm happy to provide whatever information I can to help them and I know what is useful. I just wish they weren't so hush hush about everything but I can understand much of their reasoning for not being more open. I'm just glad we'll see an end to all the widespread bugs/ exploits that I'm aware of.
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✭After doing a lot of testing of sets in the same way the Dual Mundus exploit works, I haven't found any other sets that retain when you replicate the way to trigger the Dual Mundus exploit.
Sets that I have tested so far (via the same steps as with dual mundus):
Way of the Air
Skirmisher
Ravager
Martial Knowledge
Beserker
I am continuing to test other possible exploits and immediately /bug reporting them the second I find them. I'm not sure if necropotence triggers the same way as the other, so there might be ways to get them to retain if there's a different way to trigger it, but I am unaware of it.
On the topic of these exploits, I'd like to urge people to report any players who actively use these exploits to their own gain (i.e, not ones who test it so they can report it/etc). Unfortunately Zenimax refuses any evidence you share if it uses addons that gather other player's Data such as FTC/S'rendarr/etc, so you can simply urge them to look at the players themselves- hoping they have the tools to look at these things internally.
It's extremely disappointing to have competitive play such as PvE Leaderboards and PvP combat totally ruined and stripped of all fun by people going out of their way to abuse these exploits to achieve things otherwise unobtainable. Here's to hoping that the days of exploiting are soon to be over, and we can finally see some real competition on fair grounds.Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!
Have questions? Send me a message on the forums or my other social media. Seeing people learn is my dream and passion.
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✭✭✭✭Gilliamtherogue wrote: »After doing a lot of testing of sets in the same way the Dual Mundus exploit works, I haven't found any other sets that retain when you replicate the way to trigger the Dual Mundus exploit.
Sets that I have tested so far (via the same steps as with dual mundus):
Way of the Air
Skirmisher
Ravager
Martial Knowledge
Beserker
I am continuing to test other possible exploits and immediately /bug reporting them the second I find them. I'm not sure if necropotence triggers the same way as the other, so there might be ways to get them to retain if there's a different way to trigger it, but I am unaware of it.
On the topic of these exploits, I'd like to urge people to report any players who actively use these exploits to their own gain (i.e, not ones who test it so they can report it/etc). Unfortunately Zenimax refuses any evidence you share if it uses addons that gather other player's Data such as FTC/S'rendarr/etc, so you can simply urge them to look at the players themselves- hoping they have the tools to look at these things internally.
It's extremely disappointing to have competitive play such as PvE Leaderboards and PvP combat totally ruined and stripped of all fun by people going out of their way to abuse these exploits to achieve things otherwise unobtainable. Here's to hoping that the days of exploiting are soon to be over, and we can finally see some real competition on fair grounds.
Those sets are all proc or action based set bonuses instead of a 100% "buff" set bonus.
Either way I doubt they're going to fix or modify how each of the sets work, instead they're likely going to put code in place to completely validate all buffs upon ressing or something of that order.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
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✭Gilliamtherogue wrote: »After doing a lot of testing of sets in the same way the Dual Mundus exploit works, I haven't found any other sets that retain when you replicate the way to trigger the Dual Mundus exploit.
Sets that I have tested so far (via the same steps as with dual mundus):
Way of the Air
Skirmisher
Ravager
Martial Knowledge
Beserker
I am continuing to test other possible exploits and immediately /bug reporting them the second I find them. I'm not sure if necropotence triggers the same way as the other, so there might be ways to get them to retain if there's a different way to trigger it, but I am unaware of it.
On the topic of these exploits, I'd like to urge people to report any players who actively use these exploits to their own gain (i.e, not ones who test it so they can report it/etc). Unfortunately Zenimax refuses any evidence you share if it uses addons that gather other player's Data such as FTC/S'rendarr/etc, so you can simply urge them to look at the players themselves- hoping they have the tools to look at these things internally.
It's extremely disappointing to have competitive play such as PvE Leaderboards and PvP combat totally ruined and stripped of all fun by people going out of their way to abuse these exploits to achieve things otherwise unobtainable. Here's to hoping that the days of exploiting are soon to be over, and we can finally see some real competition on fair grounds.
Those sets are all proc or action based set bonuses instead of a 100% "buff" set bonus.
Either way I doubt they're going to fix or modify how each of the sets work, instead they're likely going to put code in place to completely validate all buffs upon ressing or something of that order.
Well Necropotence is also based off of an action, so how is it any different than the rest of the sets I've tested? Not to say I'm disappointed none of these exploits work, because if these had worked I would have quit until 1.7 as that'd mean the game would be literally pointless to play if that was all exploitable. I'm just confused as to why these two sets in particular work compared to the rest. With that knowledge they can indefinitely solve the issue, but your suggested resolution would work in principal as well, but could easily cause large issues like simply losing all passives on death until you relog (which we've dealt with in the past plenty of times before)Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!
Have questions? Send me a message on the forums or my other social media. Seeing people learn is my dream and passion.
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✭✭✭✭Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »After doing a lot of testing of sets in the same way the Dual Mundus exploit works, I haven't found any other sets that retain when you replicate the way to trigger the Dual Mundus exploit.
Sets that I have tested so far (via the same steps as with dual mundus):
Way of the Air
Skirmisher
Ravager
Martial Knowledge
Beserker
I am continuing to test other possible exploits and immediately /bug reporting them the second I find them. I'm not sure if necropotence triggers the same way as the other, so there might be ways to get them to retain if there's a different way to trigger it, but I am unaware of it.
On the topic of these exploits, I'd like to urge people to report any players who actively use these exploits to their own gain (i.e, not ones who test it so they can report it/etc). Unfortunately Zenimax refuses any evidence you share if it uses addons that gather other player's Data such as FTC/S'rendarr/etc, so you can simply urge them to look at the players themselves- hoping they have the tools to look at these things internally.
It's extremely disappointing to have competitive play such as PvE Leaderboards and PvP combat totally ruined and stripped of all fun by people going out of their way to abuse these exploits to achieve things otherwise unobtainable. Here's to hoping that the days of exploiting are soon to be over, and we can finally see some real competition on fair grounds.
Those sets are all proc or action based set bonuses instead of a 100% "buff" set bonus.
Either way I doubt they're going to fix or modify how each of the sets work, instead they're likely going to put code in place to completely validate all buffs upon ressing or something of that order.
Well Necropotence is also based off of an action, so how is it any different than the rest of the sets I've tested? Not to say I'm disappointed none of these exploits work, because if these had worked I would have quit until 1.7 as that'd mean the game would be literally pointless to play if that was all exploitable. I'm just confused as to why these two sets in particular work compared to the rest. With that knowledge they can indefinitely solve the issue, but your suggested resolution would work in principal as well, but could easily cause large issues like simply losing all passives on death until you relog (which we've dealt with in the past plenty of times before)
Necropotence gives you a buff when the criteria is met from my understanding. It's not a "proc" type bonus.
I've know plenty of people using the Mundus exploit as well as the overload exploit, I have no verification of the Necropotence set but I've heard it mentioned from multiple people I know are exploiting mundus/overload. If they say they're fixing them and they've identified the problem I'm fine to leave it at that. They'll test on their end and we can test on our end.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Should be fixed in the next PTS build.
Awesome!
With the recent updates you've filled us in on 2.1 Is shaping up to be the best major content release since the launch of the game!
WIll the Overload toggle-exploit be fixed with the patch as well or is that hoping for too much? It doesn't have nearly as great of an impact but it's been around for ages.
Not in the next PTS patch, but we are working on a fix and plan to have it out before this update is published.
Wait, so basically you haven't fixed anything or are you talking just about the weapon swap exploit?This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.0 -
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✭Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »After doing a lot of testing of sets in the same way the Dual Mundus exploit works, I haven't found any other sets that retain when you replicate the way to trigger the Dual Mundus exploit.
Sets that I have tested so far (via the same steps as with dual mundus):
Way of the Air
Skirmisher
Ravager
Martial Knowledge
Beserker
I am continuing to test other possible exploits and immediately /bug reporting them the second I find them. I'm not sure if necropotence triggers the same way as the other, so there might be ways to get them to retain if there's a different way to trigger it, but I am unaware of it.
On the topic of these exploits, I'd like to urge people to report any players who actively use these exploits to their own gain (i.e, not ones who test it so they can report it/etc). Unfortunately Zenimax refuses any evidence you share if it uses addons that gather other player's Data such as FTC/S'rendarr/etc, so you can simply urge them to look at the players themselves- hoping they have the tools to look at these things internally.
It's extremely disappointing to have competitive play such as PvE Leaderboards and PvP combat totally ruined and stripped of all fun by people going out of their way to abuse these exploits to achieve things otherwise unobtainable. Here's to hoping that the days of exploiting are soon to be over, and we can finally see some real competition on fair grounds.
Those sets are all proc or action based set bonuses instead of a 100% "buff" set bonus.
Either way I doubt they're going to fix or modify how each of the sets work, instead they're likely going to put code in place to completely validate all buffs upon ressing or something of that order.
Well Necropotence is also based off of an action, so how is it any different than the rest of the sets I've tested? Not to say I'm disappointed none of these exploits work, because if these had worked I would have quit until 1.7 as that'd mean the game would be literally pointless to play if that was all exploitable. I'm just confused as to why these two sets in particular work compared to the rest. With that knowledge they can indefinitely solve the issue, but your suggested resolution would work in principal as well, but could easily cause large issues like simply losing all passives on death until you relog (which we've dealt with in the past plenty of times before)
Necropotence gives you a buff when the criteria is met from my understanding. It's not a "proc" type bonus.
I've know plenty of people using the Mundus exploit as well as the overload exploit, I have no verification of the Necropotence set but I've heard it mentioned from multiple people I know are exploiting mundus/overload. If they say they're fixing them and they've identified the problem I'm fine to leave it at that. They'll test on their end and we can test on our end.
Fair enough, I was simply curious if you knew off yourself since you referred to it in the initial post. I really dislike when people spread misinformation based off rumors for when something is an exploit or bugged or whatever. Not everything we don't understand fully is necessarily an exploit, like sharpened maces and whatnot. This topic however, definitely is an exploit and needs fixing. I'm glad to see its aware of and being fixed asap.Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!
Have questions? Send me a message on the forums or my other social media. Seeing people learn is my dream and passion.
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