Dots Breaking Cloak?

Coalter

Hey guys, wondering if anyone else was experiencing issues with dots while being cloaked. When certain dots tick, for example "Lighting Torrent" I get pulled out of cloak and no amount of cloaking will suppress that dot.

Anyone else getting this? And Zenimax, are you aware of this bug? Totally cripples you in a fight where mobs are involved.

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Here is some video showing lotus fan breaking cloak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VfzLger47E&feature=youtu.be

mtwiggz

Definitely is happening, definitely is a bug. Happens with several player used abilities too. Would have bothered to remember them if Zenimax ever actually fixes things. Will have to wait until next major content update to get the skill working properly again.

Myxril

Last I read, ZOS claims to have fixed this. Twice, was it?
My cloaking still gets popped from DoTs, too.

KatzMainTank

No ETA

Stannum

with current radiant maglight mechanics cloack is totaly useless skill in PvP (really it always was almost useless, but now - totaly useless)

AddictionX

dots are weak tho

olsborg

Agony brings me out of cloak every time, also my own poison injection dots will bring me out of cloak sometimes.

Jaronking

Dots been bring me out of cloak every time the last few days.they turned the most unreliable class defense in the game and made it worst.

Waffennacht

Dots are: Proxy Det, Velacious Curse, Lightning Heavy attack, Resto Heavy Attack, Daedric Mines, Jabs?, sweeps? Enhale? Liquid Lightning etc etc...

Normal DoTs maybe weak, but a lot of what I listed are really hard hitting. Not even maxed yet and my heavy attack dot (if it was a destro staff)would hit for around 15k

Dots can be increased by multiple CP trees now, giving an easy +40% or more damage.

chaserstorm16909

Happening to me too.

Myxril

AddictionX wrote: »

dots are weak tho

And this comment is pointless. It doesn't matter if they're weak or not, the point is that a DoT suppression function of our cloaking is broken despite being claimed to have been fixed.

kadar

Myxril wrote: »

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AddictionX wrote: »

dots are weak tho

And this comment is pointless. It doesn't matter if they're weak or not, the point is that a DoT suppression function of our cloaking is broken despite being claimed to have been fixed.

Agreed, the damage is irrelevant. If a DoT is pulling you out of stealth you're as good as dead, in PvP at least...

Nonamesbutmineub17_ESO

Yep, still broken. ZOS probably won't attempt to fix it until dark brother hood, if history is any indicator.

BurningLance

yeah the DoTs also pulls me out of cloak (not the initial hit btw just the lingering DoT)

PS4 EU btw

HoloYoitsu

Adding to the list.

Jaronking

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Adding to the list.

Hopefully they adknowledge the issue can anyone record a video showing this happening hopefully it will help them expedite the process.

Myxril

Jaronking wrote: »

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HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Adding to the list.

Hopefully they adknowledge the issue can anyone record a video showing this happening hopefully it will help them expedite the process.

They already 'fixed' it at least once before. It probably cycled its way to the end of the bug fix line when that happened. I'm just assuming it's going to come out with a plethora of 'fixes' whenever Dark Brotherhood comes out.

Waffennacht

Edit: Well then now that I know about the suspend part it doesn't make sense

Myxril

Waffennacht wrote: »

Well I keep thinking about it, why shouldn't damage over time keep you out of cloak? Doesn't damage keep you out? So there for a Damage over Time effect would fall under that damage category?

If mines is considered a DoT then DoTs should keep an NB outta cloak, just logically speaking (but I wouldn't be against a change to this just for gameplay value)

The skill is supposed to pause DoTs for the duration of the cloak, then resume the DoTs after cloaking ends.

bowmanz607

What platgorm? Pc/na Hereally and no issue sense they fix the siege dots.

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO

cloak is officially broken beyond repair (and now intended this way with the last DLC)
Therefore, don't expect any fix (other than to the worse) from those jokers at ZOS game design / combat team.

Coalter

Can confirm, Here is some proof of lotus fan breaking cloak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VfzLger47E&feature=youtu.be

bowmanz607

Coalter wrote: »

Can confirm, Here is some proof of lotus fan breaking cloak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VfzLger47E&feature=youtu.be

It seems to me that the player lock onto you with the ability before you cloaked. Because of his distance away from you it seemed like he targeted you while you were in stealth. In reality, it seems very likely in that situation that he used lotus fan before you completely disappeared and that short amount of time you were in cloak was due to the distance. Meaning, that although the player used lotus fan before you cloaked, you were still able to get a second of cloak before it actually finished the animation to hit you. Additionally, lotus fan is an aoe, sI as long as they are able to activate right before you go into stealth, it will pull you out.

bowmanz607

I am really curious what platform you all are having this issue on. I have tested every dot I can think of and get pulled out by none. I am pc/na. I wonder if some of you are having this issue on that platform. If so, perhaps some videos. Perhaps other mechanics are pulling you out such as are or detect pots or aomething. Afterall, 8 had someone CA me a hacker the other day because I found them hiding off to the corner when in reality I simply used a detect pot. N9t saying that this is the scenario, but I wonder 8f perhaps some people are just unaware of some skills having aoe or simply being unaware that it is another player that pulled you out of stealth and not the dot from the player chasing you.

Coalter

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Coalter wrote: »

Can confirm, Here is some proof of lotus fan breaking cloak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VfzLger47E&feature=youtu.be

It seems to me that the player lock onto you with the ability before you cloaked. Because of his distance away from you it seemed like he targeted you while you were in stealth. In reality, it seems very likely in that situation that he used lotus fan before you completely disappeared and that short amount of time you were in cloak was due to the distance. Meaning, that although the player used lotus fan before you cloaked, you were still able to get a second of cloak before it actually finished the animation to hit you. Additionally, lotus fan is an aoe, sI as long as they are able to activate right before you go into stealth, it will pull you out.

I'm not sure you're understanding the point here, at 16 seconds in, after being hit, and cloaking multiple times, being away from the target. the lotus fan breaks cloak every time it ticks, I'm not concerned about the initial hit, that is business as usual.

bowmanz607

Coalter wrote: »

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bowmanz607 wrote: »

Coalter wrote: »

Can confirm, Here is some proof of lotus fan breaking cloak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VfzLger47E&feature=youtu.be

It seems to me that the player lock onto you with the ability before you cloaked. Because of his distance away from you it seemed like he targeted you while you were in stealth. In reality, it seems very likely in that situation that he used lotus fan before you completely disappeared and that short amount of time you were in cloak was due to the distance. Meaning, that although the player used lotus fan before you cloaked, you were still able to get a second of cloak before it actually finished the animation to hit you. Additionally, lotus fan is an aoe, sI as long as they are able to activate right before you go into stealth, it will pull you out.

I'm not sure you're understanding the point here, at 16 seconds in, after being hit, and cloaking multiple times, being away from the target. the lotus fan breaks cloak every time it ticks, I'm not concerned about the initial hit, that is business as usual.

9k, yes I did miss the point. My bad. Are you eu server?

Coalter

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Just wanted to let you guys know there's a video of this happening with lotus fan, as well as in IC agony casted by the mobs does this exact same thing. It's a shame to see the only real form of survivability for a NB being crippled like this. Either way, thank you for looking into this, we appreciate it.

olsborg

Poison injection brings you out of cloak (if you are the one who put it on someone), a multitude of other dots given or taken will bring you out of cloak, agony is one dot that will totally deny you to cloak.

Lord-Otto

It was always my impression that "fake DoTs" like Velocious Curse, Magicka Det and so on should knock you out of cloak, as a soft counter. Whereas "real DoTs" like Burnings Embers and Engulfing Flames should not, as these DoTs last so long and tick so often, it would severely hamper Cloak. I was actually worried about Cloak's new DoT supress, but to me it looks to be working correctly.

KenCleanAirSystem

It's not just cloak that is affected, just normal stealth is broken the same way. If there is any enemy taking damage from one of your DoT's you are unable to stealth. Drop Caltrops, Arrow Barrage, Poison Arrow, etc. and as long as that effect is ticking you are unable to return to stealth... Broken beyond belief, I don't know how these bugs make it to the live server with such alarming frequency.

Lord-Otto

Is that while fighting NPCs? They've always had their own rules, which I wouldn't worry about. Tested on human enemies?