Learn to talk like an adult, you first person in this game who called me liar, maybe saying *** is ordinary thing for you and your friends, but sorry, not for me. First of all, it was 100% new skin, second - leaderboard dont have anyone on it, so either vr1 scaled not going onto leaderboard, or something else happened.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
I scaled it to level 14 and made it solo. Got the achievements for finishing the trial and the one for nobody got sucked thingy at the last boss.
But not the costume or the achievement for it.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
You should actually take that advice and apply it to yourself. You cannot scale a VETERAN trial/dungeon to below vr1. You can, however, complete normal mode on lvl 35, but if your friends actually had to do that in order to complete it, I feel bad for them. I took a group of friends between vr1 and vr16 in there and easily managed to complete normal mode.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
You should actually take that advice and apply it to yourself. You cannot scale a VETERAN trial/dungeon to below vr1. You can, however, complete normal mode on lvl 35, but if your friends actually had to do that in order to complete it, I feel bad for them. I took a group of friends between vr1 and vr16 in there and easily managed to complete normal mode.
First off these people who exploit are not my friends. Second there is a bug, I don't personaly know how to do it but a bug none the less that allows for it to scale that way. 3rd I didn't come on here calling someone a LIAR.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »You may be good enough with not-so-top tank and heal builds, but even for vr1 scaled you will need top DD builds.
Why would you need top dps builds to clear it on V1?
I understand the mechanics are hard/unclear but low dps only means you need more time. As long as everyone stays alive (which should be easier with v1 incoming dmg) you should be able to get the bosses down, eventually.
Scaling vMOL to v1 could actually be good to practice the mechanics before attempting it on max difficulty scaled at v16.
FIrst boss has a dps-race involved. I think it's about 20k...25k for each DPS to beat it on V16 (maybe some of the more experienced players con tell more exact numbers) and the boss has ~48k HP. On V1 the boss has ~31k HP so you need a minimum of 13k...16k DPS to clear it. Doesn't sound like top-DPS, but i'm sure most people will fail to pull such numbers while doing mechanics.
The Second boss will also spawn time-based adds, and it's gets more adds everytime they spawn. So with bad DPS you will get overwhelmed with adds...
Boss 1 is no where near those numbers, For example on v16:
Assume 2 tanks, 2 healers, 8 DDs
Boss HP: 48,000,000
48,000,000 HP/ 8 DDs = 6,000,000 HP per DD
Boss enrages @11 minutes = 660 seconds
6,000,000 HP/660 secs = ~ 9090 dps per DD @11 min(*bare minimum @ v16)
Note that if you go to the full 11 minutes you'll likely have a bad time so say 7-9 minutes is more comfortable a completion time: 7 minutes = 420 secs; 9 minutes = 540 secs
6,000,000 HP/ 540 secs = 11111 dps per DD @9 min
6,000,000 HP/ 420 secs = 14285 dps per DD @7 min
On v1:
Boss HP: 31,000,000
31,000,000 HP/ 8 DDS = 3,875,000 HP per DD
3,875,000 HP/ 660s = 5871 dps @11 min (*bare minimum @ v1)
3,875,000 HP/ 540s = 7176 dps @9 min
3,875,000 HP/ 420s = 9226 dps @7 min
Note also the 2nd tank will most likely go to DD here, making 9 DDs, and lowering the requirements further.
Thevampirenight wrote: »I just seen someone that had the skin but not how it looks on vampires I can easy give a screen shot for what the soul shriven skin looks on vampires.
Its epic is it not! But not with the new skin
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
You should actually take that advice and apply it to yourself. You cannot scale a VETERAN trial/dungeon to below vr1. You can, however, complete normal mode on lvl 35, but if your friends actually had to do that in order to complete it, I feel bad for them. I took a group of friends between vr1 and vr16 in there and easily managed to complete normal mode.
First off these people who exploit are not my friends. Second there is a bug, I don't personaly know how to do it but a bug none the less that allows for it to scale that way. 3rd I didn't come on here calling someone a LIAR.
I won't believe that until I see it... Kinda hard to believe this is going unnoticed.
Secondly, I misunderstood Cinbri. I thought he meant someone had completed a vr16 run, which is complete ***, but I realize my error.
Apologies Cinbri
failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »I don't understand why it has become popular to call people exploiters for scaling dungeons down. Do you know how hard it is to follow and read up on quest conversations, if you are in a trial group?
Honestly I will scale that dungeon down, just to be able to collect notes to read, follow the quest and actually understand some of it, unlike all the other trials where I had to rush through, to catch up with my group.
And no, if I know that 11 people in my group wants to rush, I will not ask them to slow down for my personal immersions sake. It's basically due to the same reason I don't wear my special snowflake builds and gear when I join group content, because if I join a team as a healer and vigor is my only heal, I think they will be fairly disappointed in my contribution to the group.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
You should actually take that advice and apply it to yourself. You cannot scale a VETERAN trial/dungeon to below vr1. You can, however, complete normal mode on lvl 35, but if your friends actually had to do that in order to complete it, I feel bad for them. I took a group of friends between vr1 and vr16 in there and easily managed to complete normal mode.
First off these people who exploit are not my friends. Second there is a bug, I don't personaly know how to do it but a bug none the less that allows for it to scale that way. 3rd I didn't come on here calling someone a LIAR.
I won't believe that until I see it... Kinda hard to believe this is going unnoticed.
Secondly, I misunderstood Cinbri. I thought he meant someone had completed a vr16 run, which is complete ***, but I realize my error.
Apologies Cinbrifailkiwib16_ESO wrote: »I don't understand why it has become popular to call people exploiters for scaling dungeons down. Do you know how hard it is to follow and read up on quest conversations, if you are in a trial group?
Honestly I will scale that dungeon down, just to be able to collect notes to read, follow the quest and actually understand some of it, unlike all the other trials where I had to rush through, to catch up with my group.
And no, if I know that 11 people in my group wants to rush, I will not ask them to slow down for my personal immersions sake. It's basically due to the same reason I don't wear my special snowflake builds and gear when I join group content, because if I join a team as a healer and vigor is my only heal, I think they will be fairly disappointed in my contribution to the group.
I have absolutley no issue with scaling a dungeon/trial down if even to just have fun doing it. I have an issue with Titles and Achievments from them being handed out while scaled down.
failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »I don't understand why it has become popular to call people exploiters for scaling dungeons down. Do you know how hard it is to follow and read up on quest conversations, if you are in a trial group?
Honestly I will scale that dungeon down, just to be able to collect notes to read, follow the quest and actually understand some of it, unlike all the other trials where I had to rush through, to catch up with my group.
And no, if I know that 11 people in my group wants to rush, I will not ask them to slow down for my personal immersions sake. It's basically due to the same reason I don't wear my special snowflake builds and gear when I join group content, because if I join a team as a healer and vigor is my only heal, I think they will be fairly disappointed in my contribution to the group.
First of all don't call someone out if you have no idea what is right or not. From what I've heard a group scaled it to lvl 35.....it's possible to complete a trial on lvl 35.....such BS. None of the achievments in vet should count unless it's V16.
You should actually take that advice and apply it to yourself. You cannot scale a VETERAN trial/dungeon to below vr1. You can, however, complete normal mode on lvl 35, but if your friends actually had to do that in order to complete it, I feel bad for them. I took a group of friends between vr1 and vr16 in there and easily managed to complete normal mode.
First off these people who exploit are not my friends. Second there is a bug, I don't personaly know how to do it but a bug none the less that allows for it to scale that way. 3rd I didn't come on here calling someone a LIAR.
I won't believe that until I see it... Kinda hard to believe this is going unnoticed.
Secondly, I misunderstood Cinbri. I thought he meant someone had completed a vr16 run, which is complete ***, but I realize my error.
Apologies Cinbrifailkiwib16_ESO wrote: »I don't understand why it has become popular to call people exploiters for scaling dungeons down. Do you know how hard it is to follow and read up on quest conversations, if you are in a trial group?
Honestly I will scale that dungeon down, just to be able to collect notes to read, follow the quest and actually understand some of it, unlike all the other trials where I had to rush through, to catch up with my group.
And no, if I know that 11 people in my group wants to rush, I will not ask them to slow down for my personal immersions sake. It's basically due to the same reason I don't wear my special snowflake builds and gear when I join group content, because if I join a team as a healer and vigor is my only heal, I think they will be fairly disappointed in my contribution to the group.
I have absolutley no issue with scaling a dungeon/trial down if even to just have fun doing it. I have an issue with Titles and Achievments from them being handed out while scaled down.
^ This
They should make it so you don't get credit for the achievement unless you are the same level or lower than the scale.
failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »I don't understand why it has become popular to call people exploiters for scaling dungeons down. Do you know how hard it is to follow and read up on quest conversations, if you are in a trial group?
Honestly I will scale that dungeon down, just to be able to collect notes to read, follow the quest and actually understand some of it, unlike all the other trials where I had to rush through, to catch up with my group.
And no, if I know that 11 people in my group wants to rush, I will not ask them to slow down for my personal immersions sake. It's basically due to the same reason I don't wear my special snowflake builds and gear when I join group content, because if I join a team as a healer and vigor is my only heal, I think they will be fairly disappointed in my contribution to the group.
JasminaChillibeaner wrote: »
Aerius_Sygale wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »IMO a skin/title is exactly what should be locked behind extremely difficult content. It doesn give the already best players a bigger advantage, but it does let others know what you accomplished. This is the perfect solution. STOP WHINING?
I for one am not whining about the approach, I just wanted to know what it looked like... A lot of people play ESO, I'm just surprised there hasn't been some really dedicated group that has unlocked it yet to be able to show it off. Not meaning to be greedy or bitchy, just...surprised.
Kind of speaks to the difficulty I guess, which is a good thing with all the complaints about the game being too easy.
My money is on Hodor to be the first, but we'll see.
Kippesnikke wrote: »Aerius_Sygale wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »IMO a skin/title is exactly what should be locked behind extremely difficult content. It doesn give the already best players a bigger advantage, but it does let others know what you accomplished. This is the perfect solution. STOP WHINING?
I for one am not whining about the approach, I just wanted to know what it looked like... A lot of people play ESO, I'm just surprised there hasn't been some really dedicated group that has unlocked it yet to be able to show it off. Not meaning to be greedy or bitchy, just...surprised.
Kind of speaks to the difficulty I guess, which is a good thing with all the complaints about the game being too easy.
My money is on Hodor to be the first, but we'll see.
@Xendyn money well spent
Kippesnikke wrote: »Aerius_Sygale wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »IMO a skin/title is exactly what should be locked behind extremely difficult content. It doesn give the already best players a bigger advantage, but it does let others know what you accomplished. This is the perfect solution. STOP WHINING?
I for one am not whining about the approach, I just wanted to know what it looked like... A lot of people play ESO, I'm just surprised there hasn't been some really dedicated group that has unlocked it yet to be able to show it off. Not meaning to be greedy or bitchy, just...surprised.
Kind of speaks to the difficulty I guess, which is a good thing with all the complaints about the game being too easy.
My money is on Hodor to be the first, but we'll see.
@Xendyn money well spent
Yes, I saw that
Grats again, guys!
Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »TotterTates wrote: »
People are forced to scale it down to like vet level one for group leader because of how really difficult they made it.
Basically they might be force to nerf it, otherwise no one will do it because its basically the hardest dungeon ever made.
They were forced to nerf it on pts because of the fact they could not test it without the nerf. I am hoping they do nerf this but also keep it challenging It should not be impossible but possible. You do not see anyone on leader boards because of the difficulty.
LMAO. It is difficult content and you want to point out how no one has beat it yet... DLC has been out for how many days??!! And yet there is at least one group already at the final boss, and they will likely have it beat within days.
You are the same player who has already posted a thread to nerf the trial so that you can more easily get the skin. It is a skin! It is not worth nerfing content over for you to get more easily. If you want the skin that bad, just go beat it on scaled down vet 1.
This game is casual friendly, extremely so!. Stop whining when they introduce something difficult. VMSA, sure, whine about if you must since powerful weapons are locked behind it and it is solo content. But this is group content and you get a skin for beating it...just cosmetics. Stop whining.
I hope they do not nerf it. It will upset a lot of players if they do.
got me curious now on how any of them would look on a Kahjit
Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »TotterTates wrote: »
People are forced to scale it down to like vet level one for group leader because of how really difficult they made it.
Basically they might be force to nerf it, otherwise no one will do it because its basically the hardest dungeon ever made.
They were forced to nerf it on pts because of the fact they could not test it without the nerf. I am hoping they do nerf this but also keep it challenging It should not be impossible but possible. You do not see anyone on leader boards because of the difficulty.
LMAO. It is difficult content and you want to point out how no one has beat it yet... DLC has been out for how many days??!! And yet there is at least one group already at the final boss, and they will likely have it beat within days.
You are the same player who has already posted a thread to nerf the trial so that you can more easily get the skin. It is a skin! It is not worth nerfing content over for you to get more easily. If you want the skin that bad, just go beat it on scaled down vet 1.
This game is casual friendly, extremely so!. Stop whining when they introduce something difficult. VMSA, sure, whine about if you must since powerful weapons are locked behind it and it is solo content. But this is group content and you get a skin for beating it...just cosmetics. Stop whining.
I hope they do not nerf it. It will upset a lot of players if they do.
You cant scale it to vet 1 to get the skin the achievement clearly states it has to be at cp 160
but yeah it needs nerfing it is impossible to do on vet lvl and id love the skin but they've made it a reward that people cant get