Official Feedback Thread for Class & Balance Changes

ZOS_GinaBruno

This is the official feedback thread for the class and balance changes in this update. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes:

• How do you feel about the changes we made to each of the classes?
  • Dragonknight
  • Nightblade
  • Sorcerer
  • Templar
• Did you run into any potential bugs or issues?
• Do you have any other general feedback?

found1779

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for the class and balance changes in this update. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes:

• How do you feel about the changes we made to each of the classes?
  • Dragonknight
  • Nightblade
  • Sorcerer
  • Templar
• Did you run into any potential bugs or issues?
• Do you have any other general feedback?

How about some more stamina morphs for sorcerers and not just magicka ones

Forestd16b14_ESO

NO NO NO NO NO yes to reflecting meteor forget those cry babies meteor needs to be reflectable.

LindsC

Not cool with the BoL

Xjcon

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

NO NO NO NO NO yes to reflecting meteor forget those cry babies meteor needs to be reflectable.

Was so fun reflecting meteor....(sobbing) Goodbye my friend.

Erock25

Sorc stamina changes would be nice. Thundering Presence was a complete failure. Please give stamina sorc something else.

Cathexis

Erock25 wrote: »

Sorc stamina changes would be nice. Thundering Presence was a complete failure. Please give stamina sorc something else.

So still nothing new for stam sorcs? *eyeroll* I would have more to say if I were actually surprised by this. Also to paraphrase FENGRUSH - the thundering presence buff was like getting held down and kicked in the junk.

However, in defense of the devs, I did like the changes to dark deal - but the resource cost/return ratio is GOD AWEFUL. It needs to be as efficient as the other morph, needs to heal at least 1000 more of both resources, and it really needs to scale with ANYTHING (cp? stats?), and why does the mana version not proc shards???

Also Ive heard heavy armor is still limited and really needs buffs, and rumors about impen getting reduced (which is really the opposite of where it should be since crit damage can far exceed crit reduction).

Of course this is speculation - I have no experience and limited information on the new changes beyond rumors and will update this post as I develop a better understanding.

Nifty2g

@ZOS_GinaBruno Lets put Breath of Life back to how it was instead of nerfing it. It is meant to be the healing class right?

Forestd16b14_ESO

Also @ZOS_GinaBruno were are the freaking heavy armor buffs ? Please don't say CP that has noting to do with armor.

Rex-Umbra

Console player so can't test but the CP changes sound good some one make a video showing how much these stats improve armor, dps etc since they are not percentage based any more.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Everyone, please wait to submit your feedback until you've had a chance to test out the changes. Thank you.

FENGRUSH

Good thing stam sorcs dont need to login to test any changes - they didnt get any.

Nifty2g

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Good thing stam sorcs dont need to login to test any changes - they didnt get any.

Not gonna lie, I laughed so hard at this

found1779

All i want is to actually be able to use my sorcerer abilities

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Everyone, please wait to submit your feedback until you've had a chance to test out the changes. Thank you.

What if were on console and want to give feedback cause we can't try out stuff on pts aren't we allowed to at least give are feedback now

Kr3do

I dont need to test it. I can tell already that NB will be [snip] in PvP with that dark cloak nerf.

Loicozor

6 persons barrier and purge?

MissBizz

Nifty2g wrote: »

GinaBruno Lets put Breath of Life back to how it was instead of nerfing it. It is meant to be the healing class right?

Don't need to test a change that flat out says "You now heal 1/3 less people for the exact same cost".

Sorry. I'm hungry.

Mojmir

lol we know the game better than them, we dont need PTS to judge, just look up past updates

Paulington

MissBizz wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

GinaBruno Lets put Breath of Life back to how it was instead of nerfing it. It is meant to be the healing class right?

Don't need to test a change that flat out says "You now heal 1/3 less people for the exact same cost".

Sorry. I'm hungry.

I'd "Agree" a hundred times if I could. There is no reason for this change and it seems pointless, maybe a PvPer or two have QQ'd but this skill effectively doubles the cost (in magicka) of Templar healing in PvE with four-man groups.

Just change it back, please.

Nifty2g

MissBizz wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

GinaBruno Lets put Breath of Life back to how it was instead of nerfing it. It is meant to be the healing class right?

Don't need to test a change that flat out says "You now heal 1/3 less people for the exact same cost".

Sorry. I'm hungry.

I agree, I don't see why it should have been nerfed there was nothing wrong with it, if anything in some situations I found that it should increase to heal 4 people including yourself.

I don't understand the change to reduce it to encourage stacking even more healers. But I believe it's going to hurt PvE as well as PvP

asneakybanana

Nifty2g wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Lets put Breath of Life back to how it was instead of nerfing it. It is meant to be the healing class right?

You didn't head? Dks are the new healing class with sea of flames and magma shell. 12 dk raid Inc lets do it boys

tazdevil9359

The thing about BoL is crap. it was the pvp players that didnt like it. So the suggestion is why not place this into the battle spirt buff!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? So in return we dont ruin the PvE healers? This isnt fair that PvP people get to decide on how my ability is going to effect my whole game play as a healer!! What is the next thing your going to do make it to where i cant regen magika while healing or blocking or some bs? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Emma_Overload

Will the gap closer changes be enough to fix the perma-stun that every Stamblade and some other builds seem to be able to inflict on me? I sick and tired of being killed because I can't break free to cast some heals and shields.

wayfarerx

MissBizz wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

GinaBruno Lets put Breath of Life back to how it was instead of nerfing it. It is meant to be the healing class right?

Don't need to test a change that flat out says "You now heal 1/3 less people for the exact same cost".

Sorry. I'm hungry.

This ^

Testing not required, I just have to think back to dungeons where 3 team mates took a big hit, and instead of saving the day now I'm rezzing one of them. Lame.

CP5

A lot of these reactions are justified knee jerks, like why stam sorcs were brushed off after a year of waiting. I am going to need to test the pet/radiant magelight changes a lot (glad pets can finally heal themselves and the storm atro isn't rendered useless after one cc) but it seems like some areas got a lot of attention and focus while others were forgotten or ignored. And what about heavy armor?

I checked and there were 6 mentions of "heavy armor" in the patch notes, 4 were for visual fixes and 2 were about the cp passive for physical resist, nothing anywhere else. As a side note for the physical resist passive, why is it 3 passives when it could just be one? Seems like a waste of choices when they all do the same thing.

Ghost-Shot

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@Wrobel

You forgot to fix dragons blood.

found1779

After this patch literary alot of players are not happy just because yall fixed the major stuff and forgot about the minor stuff like stamina sorcerers you expect it to be okay with everyone but it isn't i would not doubt if alot of people just don't leave after this update

Baconlad

F-you zoos...f-you, I have had so much patience thinking that this was the patch where Templar of all specs would have somthingnto givenother than just our great healing and minor sorcery. I didn't think you could possibly do this to us. You did nothing but fix bugs that should have been fixed with small patches years agoyou gave us buffs that no one asked for through dark flare. You gave us a Laughable 1% increase to a morph of skill that need 10%, didn't do anything for blazing shield. Which was the only thing tanks really have unless they spec dps tank.we needed MORE recourse return, and you nerved what little amount we have through channeled focus. Then to top it all off you gave us 1 ducking meter added to sweep ultimate. You buffed nova synergy damage when it was the non synergy damage that needed buffed, gave us 2 seconds on vampires bane, which will Not make folks choose it over inner light then to top it all off, the spec for sta,ina for All classes except DKs didn't get ***. Why the didn't bow get some utility? Why must every decent stamina build have a two hander on his off bar. Two handers have execute, major brutality, and massive stun/massive damage skill....I REALLY was not expecting this when I opened patch noted today... extremely upset with you

Baconlad

Sorry for bad spelling, on a tablet. Oh and you made argonians better than nerds....*** sake guys.... every time I play lately it was with the knowledge that you would fix my ducking class "soon".... thanks for wasted development funds and wasting my time. Can't ducking WAIT for next years memos to come out so I can leave this *** development team

Baconlad

And funk auto correct

Lettigall

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Everyone, please wait to submit your feedback until you've had a chance to test out the changes. Thank you.

Without logging into PTS it's clearly seen that stamina templars didn't get damage buff nor mobility and blazing shield still sucks.