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Vigor is Cheap- Bolt escape vs other gap closers.- Anti Cheat Tactics.
Julianos
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ZOS you need to increase Vigor's stamina cost because its very cheap, i am magicka sorc without any stam reduce cost effect for me its only 3k stamina and noob NBs just spam that and get full health even first thick is enough to get full health when spammed.
Bolt escape is very expensive especially when spammed and its range only few meters compared to other gap closers like teleport strike or critical charge vs. and every other class uses those gap closers and they just spamm behind you non stop cuz their cost very cheap and their range is more than 25 meters. Also their damage is way higher than Streak damage.
I ask you ZOS whats the point of having bolt escape since useless for escaping especially noob spammer NBs just jumping on you from all directions non stop ? just increase their cost like bolt escape or reduce their range under the bolt escape's range. Or increase streak damage and make it equal to critical charge or teleport strike.
And for who having trouble againts CHEAT like stamina builds like noob NBs or WBers here some tips ;
Use 2 heavy armor pieces (one chest and pick one of these helm,legs,shoulder) craft every gear with impenetrable trait and invest 100 points to RESISTANT star in the steed constallation. Use Radiant Magelight from mages guild. And you will see those noobs couldnt hurt you any more. I crafted full legendary v16 gear with divines and it performs poorly then i crafted full epic v15 full impenetrable result was awsome just try it. I was getting 10-12k hits from cyrstal fragments, ambush and surprise attack now with full impenetrable and wit full resistant star i get 2-3k max 6k from crystal fragments very rarely good luck.
Bolt escape is very expensive especially when spammed and its range only few meters compared to other gap closers like teleport strike or critical charge vs. and every other class uses those gap closers and they just spamm behind you non stop cuz their cost very cheap and their range is more than 25 meters. Also their damage is way higher than Streak damage.
I ask you ZOS whats the point of having bolt escape since useless for escaping especially noob spammer NBs just jumping on you from all directions non stop ? just increase their cost like bolt escape or reduce their range under the bolt escape's range. Or increase streak damage and make it equal to critical charge or teleport strike.
And for who having trouble againts CHEAT like stamina builds like noob NBs or WBers here some tips ;
Use 2 heavy armor pieces (one chest and pick one of these helm,legs,shoulder) craft every gear with impenetrable trait and invest 100 points to RESISTANT star in the steed constallation. Use Radiant Magelight from mages guild. And you will see those noobs couldnt hurt you any more. I crafted full legendary v16 gear with divines and it performs poorly then i crafted full epic v15 full impenetrable result was awsome just try it. I was getting 10-12k hits from cyrstal fragments, ambush and surprise attack now with full impenetrable and wit full resistant star i get 2-3k max 6k from crystal fragments very rarely good luck.
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Zyle✭✭✭✭✭I think you need to do some research on vigor before you attempt to make a thread like this.
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭What's with all the threads from high mobility classes complaining about gap closers?
It's like DK in 1.4 complaining that a raid killed them.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »I think you need to do some research on vigor before you attempt to make a thread like this.
why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot2 -
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Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.2 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭
Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
Jcon V16 Orc DK
Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭
Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.
that too, as you see guys stam builds are over powered on everything cuz everything is soo cheap for them and easy i dont want for nerf but i just want fair play.1 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
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Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.
yes and then you are out of stamina and dead6 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
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just compair it with BoL which is instant.
Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.
yes and then you are out of stamina and dead
just compair it with you shield stacking which gives more defense then a tank.
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Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭
Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.
yes and then you are out of stamina and dead
no resource= no win2 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭im going to wait for 1 month for changes buffs/nerfs and if everything still same i will just shift+delete eso folder for good.
cuz cyrodiil already ruined by heavy lag and now everyone is NB just jumping arround on people backs1 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭im going to wait for 1 month for changes buffs/nerfs and if everything still same i will just shift+delete eso folder for good.
cuz cyrodiil already ruined by heavy lag and now everyone is NB just jumping arround on people backs
this may be a little negative but if you want to leave no one including zos will hold you back.
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭
just compair it with BoL which is instant.
Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.
yes and then you are out of stamina and dead
just compair it with you shield stacking which gives more defense then a tank.
those shields are useles when people constantly teleporting on you with stun with high damage gap closer
Also bolt escape is not instant it takes half second its stupid .0 -
Vorcil✭✭✭✭ZOS you need to increase Vigor's stamina cost because its very cheap, i am magicka sorc without any stam reduce cost effect for me its only 3k stamina and noob NBs just spam that and get full health even first thick is enough to get full health when spammed.
Bolt escape is very expensive especially when spammed and its range only few meters compared to other gap closers like teleport strike or critical charge vs. and every other class uses those gap closers and they just spamm behind you non stop cuz their cost very cheap and their range is more than 25 meters. Also their damage is way higher than Streak damage.
I ask you ZOS whats the point of having bolt escape since useless for escaping especially noob spammer NBs just jumping on you from all directions non stop ? just increase their cost like bolt escape or reduce their range under the bolt escape's range. Or increase streak damage and make it equal to critical charge or teleport strike.
And for who having trouble againts CHEAT like stamina builds like noob NBs or WBers here some tips ;
Use 2 heavy armor pieces (one chest and pick one of these helm,legs,shoulder) craft every gear with impenetrable trait and invest 100 points to RESISTANT star in the steed constallation. Use Radiant Magelight from mages guild. And you will see those noobs couldnt hurt you any more. I crafted full legendary v16 gear with divines and it performs poorly then i crafted full epic v15 full impenetrable result was awsome just try it. I was getting 10-12k hits from cyrstal fragments, ambush and surprise attack now with full impenetrable and wit full resistant star i get 2-3k max 6k from crystal fragments very rarely good luck.
Stop your winging, bolt escape can be cast without a target, if you use it properly you won't have anyone closing the gap on you; all other "gap closers" must be targeted at a player and can't be used to jump distances...
If you're the one dying to noob NBs, who's the real noob?
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Dexter411✭✭✭Oh Wow! A post with "i play x, buff it " and "i dont know how to counter/deal with y, nerf it". I have never ever seen one.
You are a scrub, L2P and of you go to penalty box for 2 min.11 -
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✭✭Still don't get the shield stacking hate. Only hardened ward actually does something. Harness magika is useless against melee and any stam build period. Healing ward is crap. I don't care what any of you cry babies say I run 42k magika, 3790 spell damage unbuffered and it shields for such a minor amount and the healing from it is nothing to be noted. Same for op. Stop crying...stop trying to survive and focus / build more for killing. The more you kill the less you die. Who cares if they die from spamming whatever you do so long as they go down that's all that matters.PC Master Race
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Down With BOP!0 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭For magicka builds, break free very expensive ,roll dodge very expensive ,heals are reduced ,no working escape mechanics,no decent protection from light armor, low spell power with staves , expensive abilties...
This game's pvp soooo unbalanced.2 -
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✭✭✭im going to wait for 1 month for changes buffs/nerfs and if everything still same i will just shift+delete eso folder for good.
cuz cyrodiil already ruined by heavy lag and now everyone is NB just jumping arround on people backs
omg ^^^
If this game causes that much stress maybe you shouldn't be playing it.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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CtrlAltDlt✭✭✭Such a funny nerd thread, on average vigor heals u for 1.4 - 1.6k a sec for 4 seconds. with all the high damage meta builds out there if you think thats gonna bring you to full health or needs a nerf gtfo.PC NA - jeazzy
stamblade outnumbered pvp vol 1. youtu.be/h1ONYfpAJJ8
Stamblade outbumbered pvp vol 2. No cheese youtu.be/rN4_aRVMvWw1 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭ZOS you need to increase Vigor's stamina cost because its very cheap, i am magicka sorc without any stam reduce cost effect for me its only 3k stamina and noob NBs just spam that and get full health even first thick is enough to get full health when spammed.
Bolt escape is very expensive especially when spammed and its range only few meters compared to other gap closers like teleport strike or critical charge vs. and every other class uses those gap closers and they just spamm behind you non stop cuz their cost very cheap and their range is more than 25 meters. Also their damage is way higher than Streak damage.
I ask you ZOS whats the point of having bolt escape since useless for escaping especially noob spammer NBs just jumping on you from all directions non stop ? just increase their cost like bolt escape or reduce their range under the bolt escape's range. Or increase streak damage and make it equal to critical charge or teleport strike.
And for who having trouble againts CHEAT like stamina builds like noob NBs or WBers here some tips ;
Use 2 heavy armor pieces (one chest and pick one of these helm,legs,shoulder) craft every gear with impenetrable trait and invest 100 points to RESISTANT star in the steed constallation. Use Radiant Magelight from mages guild. And you will see those noobs couldnt hurt you any more. I crafted full legendary v16 gear with divines and it performs poorly then i crafted full epic v15 full impenetrable result was awsome just try it. I was getting 10-12k hits from cyrstal fragments, ambush and surprise attack now with full impenetrable and wit full resistant star i get 2-3k max 6k from crystal fragments very rarely good luck.
Stop your winging, bolt escape can be cast without a target, if you use it properly you won't have anyone closing the gap on you; all other "gap closers" must be targeted at a player and can't be used to jump distances...
If you're the one dying to noob NBs, who's the real noob?
Lol im not dying at all. i will ignore noob NBs msgs who scares from nerf hammer like a hell.0 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭
Because that's now how Vigor works. It's a HoT, so you don't get all your health in one go. You can't spam it to go heals unlike other skills, compared to (say) Rally. Rally is a great skill to spam heals in the midst of combat, and does wonders. Not to mention Rally gives you a 20% boost to damage.why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
Vigor is good, but it's not the end-all, be-all, especially after the 50% reduction.
Vigor, Dodge roll, Dodge roll. FULL HEALTH.
yes and then you are out of stamina and dead
Out of stam Pfft. The stam regen people run with allows for way more dodge rolls then that.
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭For magicka builds, break free very expensive ,roll dodge very expensive ,heals are reduced ,no working escape mechanics,no decent protection from light armor, low spell power with staves , expensive abilties...
This game's pvp soooo unbalanced.
This is pretty much where I'm at. I play magicka DK so I see the advantages stamina classes have over magicka. But it wouldn't take much to tip the scales the other direction like it was pre 1.5. Unfortunately I highly doubt we will ever see a fix that balances everything without at least changing the FOTM.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭
Guys dont bother answering those noob NBS they only say learn to play or dont cry and such things like a broken record.
Everyone knows whos noob and whos overpowered just dont fool yourself and others. 2+2=4 nb=nerf0 -
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✭✭Sorcs and NBs are both really strong if you know how to play them.
If you want to beat a NB slot a detect pot, if you cant win with a detect pot your skills are the issue here.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
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Gonza✭✭✭Have you ever played with a stamina build? You should try before asking for nerfs.
Dont wait a month for your request, leave now please
Good luck!
Play for fun!5 -
Eejit1331✭✭✭bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »I think you need to do some research on vigor before you attempt to make a thread like this.
why ? i saw many times people just spamming vigor and get full health noone waits for the hot
They spam it because it's so cheap on cost and the the hots will tick while they are in battle. It is an op ability compared to GDB and some other heals out there considering it is an AOE.0 -
Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭ZOS you need to increase Vigor's stamina cost because its very cheap, i am magicka sorc without any stam reduce cost effect for me its only 3k stamina and noob NBs just spam that and get full health even first thick is enough to get full health when spammed.
Bolt escape is very expensive especially when spammed and its range only few meters compared to other gap closers like teleport strike or critical charge vs. and every other class uses those gap closers and they just spamm behind you non stop cuz their cost very cheap and their range is more than 25 meters. Also their damage is way higher than Streak damage.
I ask you ZOS whats the point of having bolt escape since useless for escaping especially noob spammer NBs just jumping on you from all directions non stop ? just increase their cost like bolt escape or reduce their range under the bolt escape's range. Or increase streak damage and make it equal to critical charge or teleport strike.
And for who having trouble againts CHEAT like stamina builds like noob NBs or WBers here some tips ;
Use 2 heavy armor pieces (one chest and pick one of these helm,legs,shoulder) craft every gear with impenetrable trait and invest 100 points to RESISTANT star in the steed constallation. Use Radiant Magelight from mages guild. And you will see those noobs couldnt hurt you any more. I crafted full legendary v16 gear with divines and it performs poorly then i crafted full epic v15 full impenetrable result was awsome just try it. I was getting 10-12k hits from cyrstal fragments, ambush and surprise attack now with full impenetrable and wit full resistant star i get 2-3k max 6k from crystal fragments very rarely good luck.
So op, your saying you want to be able to escape beyond ANYONES charge attack? ROFL..uh NO. Not gonna happen. Then your asking for streak to do more damage? OMG man, you are delusional. Your also posting in the wrong forum for this QQ. Put up your OP shields and streak away. The skill is called Bolt "ESCAPE" for a reason. It's not Bolt OMFGIWINOPBUTTON. It's not supposed to do great damage. It's there so your silly azz can run away from my axe before I cut you down."The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"3 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭ZOS you need to increase Vigor's stamina cost because its very cheap, i am magicka sorc without any stam reduce cost effect for me its only 3k stamina and noob NBs just spam that and get full health even first thick is enough to get full health when spammed.
Bolt escape is very expensive especially when spammed and its range only few meters compared to other gap closers like teleport strike or critical charge vs. and every other class uses those gap closers and they just spamm behind you non stop cuz their cost very cheap and their range is more than 25 meters. Also their damage is way higher than Streak damage.
I ask you ZOS whats the point of having bolt escape since useless for escaping especially noob spammer NBs just jumping on you from all directions non stop ? just increase their cost like bolt escape or reduce their range under the bolt escape's range. Or increase streak damage and make it equal to critical charge or teleport strike.
And for who having trouble againts CHEAT like stamina builds like noob NBs or WBers here some tips ;
Use 2 heavy armor pieces (one chest and pick one of these helm,legs,shoulder) craft every gear with impenetrable trait and invest 100 points to RESISTANT star in the steed constallation. Use Radiant Magelight from mages guild. And you will see those noobs couldnt hurt you any more. I crafted full legendary v16 gear with divines and it performs poorly then i crafted full epic v15 full impenetrable result was awsome just try it. I was getting 10-12k hits from cyrstal fragments, ambush and surprise attack now with full impenetrable and wit full resistant star i get 2-3k max 6k from crystal fragments very rarely good luck.
So op, your saying you want to be able to escape beyond ANYONES charge attack? ROFL..uh NO. Not gonna happen. Then your asking for streak to do more damage? OMG man, you are delusional. Your also posting in the wrong forum for this QQ. Put up your OP shields and streak away. The skill is called Bolt "ESCAPE" for a reason. It's not Bolt OMFGIWINOPBUTTON. It's not supposed to do great damage. It's there so your silly azz can run away from my axe before I cut you down.
another noob ^0