Where is the VR16 PvP gear?

Higgs_Field

I played around on the PTS for an hour yesterday. I really like everything about Orsinium and virtually all of the other changes and improvements to the game that are currently featured on the PTS.

However, as an avid PvPer, I was extremely disappointed to find out that the gear provided by PvP vendors is still capped at VR14. Before IC, some of the PvP sets (e.g. Light of Cyrodiil) were very sought after, and it is a shame that they are now pretty useless for VR16 characters, since they only have VR14 stats.

The "Elite Gear Vendor" in PvP sells these sets at 248,000 AP per piece. As a VR16, I definitely do not consider gear that is 2 levels below mine to be "elite" and I most certainly will not spend 1,240,000 AP on a 5-piece set that is only VR14!

I would appreciate it greatly if some clarification could be provided. Do the developers ever intend to allow VR16 gear be purchased for AP? If so, when? And if not, what is the rationale behind the decision to limit PvP gear to VR14?

Thank you.

olsborg

Agreed. But I doubt they will alow AP to be sent on v16 gear just yet, they want people to purchase the IC and the Orsinium DLCs first to get this gear, then when they have milked that...who knows..

Birdovic

Hm yea, PvPers should have the possiblity to earn stuff, not just buying from IC players in Guildshops to stay competitive.

tangy.citrus

What about the opposite? Not long ago you had to buy ravagers and morag tong from pvp'ers or go farm it yourself in pvp. You have the pvp gear in the IC patch, what more do you need?

Jennifur_Vultee

Meh...I'm sure it'll show up in the cash shop soon enough.

Higgs_Field

I appreciate the comments, but I think the answers to my questions can only come from developers, not other players.

I'm new to these forums; is it possible to request an official response from ZOS somehow? How often do they respond to posts here?

Thanks.

Saltypretzels

Everyone wants an official response from ZoS, but they are very rare. Otherwise they would spend all their time giving official responses.

Qyrk

unfortunately, the pvp sets (if you're looking at v16) will essentially be from the tel var stones merchant instead - there's only a few that is viable in pvp with the right build - but you'll need to be creative.

SHADOW2KK

tangy.citrus wrote: »

What about the opposite? Not long ago you had to buy ravagers and morag tong from pvp'ers or go farm it yourself in pvp. You have the pvp gear in the IC patch, what more do you need?

Um what?, there is no Vr16 PvP gear from Elite Vendors, and we need Vr16 Ravaging/Cyrodills Light and all the good PvP sets IMO.

Vr14 gear is useless now.

Death_Prophet83

Saltypretzels wrote: »

Everyone wants an official response from ZoS, but they are very rare. Otherwise they would spend all their time giving official responses.

Basically what he means is they won't answer because they don't care, they are running this game into the ground without listening to the community at all, don't expect this game to be live next year this time. ZOS get those resumes ready lol.

Cathexis

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

tangy.citrus wrote: »

What about the opposite? Not long ago you had to buy ravagers and morag tong from pvp'ers or go farm it yourself in pvp. You have the pvp gear in the IC patch, what more do you need?

Um what?, there is no Vr16 PvP gear from Elite Vendors, and we need Vr16 Ravaging/Cyrodills Light and all the good PvP sets IMO.

Vr14 gear is useless now.

Ravaging still works pretty well. I also have another vr14 set which I use that is very effective.

Wollust

Well, they said in another post they are planning to scale the gear to V16.. in the future.. someday.. whatever that means.

Zilch

Scaling old PVP gear to V16 is probably an hour or two of work. A lot of the PVPers would be extremely pleased if V16 PVP gear made it into the Orsinium DLC.

Higgs_Field

Wollust wrote: »

Well, they said in another post they are planning to scale the gear to V16.. in the future.. someday.. whatever that means.

Can you link to that post please?

Rioht

There are sets that you can get in VR16 from PvP, as rewards for the worthy and end of campaign rewards.

However, they are pretty much garbage aside from maybe the arch mage which i might consider solely for the 2-3-4 set bonuses.

Higgs_Field

Rioht wrote: »

There are sets that you can get in VR16 from PvP, as rewards for the worthy and end of campaign rewards.

I've probably received over 200 "rewards for the worthy" since IC was released. Only a few of them were set items, not even from the same set, and not from any sets I actually wanted. I also received a few set items as end of campaign rewards - again, not from any sets I actually wanted. I ended up selling all of the above in guild stores.

So yes, it is theoretically possible, at the mercy of the RNG gods, to receive VR16 versions of the PvP sets, but if you want a specific set, and you want all 5 pieces, there is nothing you can do except buy the items from other players.

Before IC I could just go to the PvP vendors in Cyrodiil and buy a complete max-level set with AP, without having to rely on an RNG or other players. Now I can't do that anymore.

Rioht wrote: »

However, they are pretty much garbage aside from maybe the arch mage which i might consider solely for the 2-3-4 set bonuses.

One man's garbage is another man's treasure

Taleof2Cities

The DC elite gear vendor doesn't even talk ... it's as if she already knows she's obsolete ...

I support this thread even if ZOS has to go through another roundtable discussion on the "Rewards for the Worthy" drop rate and drop contents.

Rioht

Higgs_Field wrote: »

Rioht wrote: »

There are sets that you can get in VR16 from PvP, as rewards for the worthy and end of campaign rewards.

I've probably received over 200 "rewards for the worthy" since IC was released. Only a few of them were set items, not even from the same set, and not from any sets I actually wanted. I also received a few set items as end of campaign rewards - again, not from any sets I actually wanted. I ended up selling all of the above in guild stores.

So yes, it is theoretically possible, at the mercy of the RNG gods, to receive VR16 versions of the PvP sets, but if you want a specific set, and you want all 5 pieces, there is nothing you can do except buy the items from other players.

Before IC I could just go to the PvP vendors in Cyrodiil and buy a complete max-level set with AP, without having to rely on an RNG or other players. Now I can't do that anymore.

Rioht wrote: »

However, they are pretty much garbage aside from maybe the arch mage which i might consider solely for the 2-3-4 set bonuses.

One man's garbage is another man's treasure

You must have terrible RNG. I get a set piece probably 1 in 5 rewards.

Ishammael

The sets you get from the Rewards mails -- with maybe one exception -- are garbage.

SHADOW2KK

Cathexis wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

tangy.citrus wrote: »

What about the opposite? Not long ago you had to buy ravagers and morag tong from pvp'ers or go farm it yourself in pvp. You have the pvp gear in the IC patch, what more do you need?

Um what?, there is no Vr16 PvP gear from Elite Vendors, and we need Vr16 Ravaging/Cyrodills Light and all the good PvP sets IMO.

Vr14 gear is useless now.

Ravaging still works pretty well. I also have another vr14 set which I use that is very effective.

Aye I know:}, gave my old gear to another alt, wearing full legendary Vr16 gear/wpns, but would take Ravaging back in a heartbeat if it were Vr16..

Higgs_Field

Bumping with additional reasoning (taken from another thread).

Please make the PvP sets scale up to VR16.

This will give players more incentive to do PvP and earn AP, and will also allow us to have more options when choosing which sets to wear in endgame, once we reach VR16.

Some of these sets are pretty good and we would like to keep using them, but as VR16 players we have no use for them if they are only available in VR14.

I don't understand why these sets didn't scale to VR16 already when IC was released. It only takes a few days to level from VR14 to VR16, and no one is going to work hard to earn AP to get the VR14 sets if they are already VR16 by the time they have enough AP to buy the sets!

GeertKarel

I hope ZOS will make the pvp vendors sell vr16 items, there are some good sets that I could use for the new trial. the only thing that is holding me back is that it is vr14. It shouldn't be to hard to change the stats for the gear. I have 1,2 million ap on my sorcerer and Sadly there is nothing worth to buy items with, since who is ever going to pay for vr14 gear? vr16 gives you more enchantment power and armor ofcourse. Please change it with the upcoming thieves guild!

Cinbri

Last ESO Live
twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/35627537
14:00. They won't raise old sets level till q2 dlc when VR levels will be removed.

Paulington

Cinbri wrote: »

Last ESO Live
twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/35627537
14:00. They won't raise old sets level till q2 dlc when VR levels will be removed.

For most sets, yes. However ZOS confirmed a long time ago that some PvP sets will be going up to VR16 in TG along with weekly Trial rewards.

You can see the sets Kai listed as being scaled up here. In case you don't know the German set names:

• Roben des Ansturms (Onslaught)
• Veränderungsbeherrschung (Alteration Mastery)
• Falkenauge (Hawk's Eye)
• Schattengänger (Shadow Walker)
• Duroks Fluch (Durok's Bane)
• Rüstung der Wahrheit (Truth).