New Motifs BROKEN: Glass and Xivkyn

Dreddnawt

[EDIT]

So now ZOS is introducing two brand new crafting style motifs: Glass and Xivkyn. This is great!! Im so hyped up about glass. Have been waiting on that style since launch.

HOWEVER, each new motif will be split into chapters (14 chapters as we all know from Dwemer gear) and on top of that each Chapter will be split into 10 fragments - as the Psijic Ambrosia recipe is. So we each now have to loot/buy/find 140 RARE Unique items just to learn a single new crafting style. [EDIT] The style mats are also broken down into 10 shards which will be bound to you if you turn them into something usable (Malachite).

So if I want to learn both new styles AND actually make a set of armor in those styles, I will need to find and collect 280 style fragments AND 120-140 Malachite shards!!!!!!!!!! All the while competing against hundreds of other players trying to find the exact same things. [EDIT]

BUT THATS NOT ALL!!!! As the cherry on this whole cake we also have to worry about Resins needed to combine those hundreds of chapter fragments we find. And those certainly WONT BE CHEAP. As they said in patch notes:
"Merethic Restorative Resin:
- This Resin is sold by Mystics around the world for a hefty price."

Im telling you right now: Ive been a long time fan and player of all TES games and Ive stuck out the ups and downs of TESO over the last year plus since the first day of pre-launch. I have multiple alts trained in each craft all of which are master crafters covering every craft with every style, trait, and recipe there is. I play mostly PvE end game and am very much invested in my guilds and helping them grow along with this marvelous game......

[EDIT]

Any who agree please post below so they might see what we players feel about this insanity.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

timidobserver

Much anger I sense in you

M4YON

God bless the dev who edited that lol

But I'm with the OP im new to the crafting system and i am slowly gathering styles and traits learning bits as i go along recieving another style split up in this way like the dunmer style is a massive kick in the teeth to both new and long standing users.

There's simply no need for it just keep it simple one syle one motif it will be expensive and not everybody will be able to afford it right off the bat but it beats the hell out of wasting half your life on collecting hundreds of fragments whilst competing with thousands of other players hunting for the same thing, its just not worth it.

Dreddnawt

Just to add a bit of constructive feedback:

I can totally agree with
1) making the new styles into 14 chapters to collect (as with Dwemer);
OR
2) making 10 fragments we need to find and combine to make a Gold Book (to learn the style for every piece at once);
OR
3) implementing both of the above so there are multiple options to learn the whole set (either collecting fragments through writs or chapters as loot).

LunaRae

I get the feeling the OP hasn't seen the screenshot showing the Resin cost of 25,000 gold. Heft isn't enough to describe how crazy that is.

Dreddnawt

LunaRae wrote: »

I get the feeling the OP hasn't seen the screenshot showing the Resin cost of 25,000 gold. Heft isn't enough to describe how crazy that is.

Yeah I caught that 350k price tag for 14 resins after posting.

As was edited from my original post: If this goes live I'll have to, regretfully, leave this game like so many others have already done.

Rinmaethodain

Yup, another part of game givent to the hands of RNG.

The worst thing is going to be if everything will be bound to you. We already know malachites are. What else? Recipe fragments? I already can see hordes of people who keep getting from RNG same fragment or chapter over and over again.

tonemd

Be outraged that you will probably soon be able to buy the motifs at a crown store near you, "for a hefty price".

amgame308_ESO

Sounds like another "outrage" before the patch even goes live. I think people at this point like to use acronyms like "RNG" or sigh "I'm going to have to quit over this" Seriously, I've gotten all the motifs and recipes in game so far with little problem. It is either going to cost you time or money. Unless you want inside of 3 weeks after the patch what is the big deal. Same outcry with the XP pot recipe. The prices dropped dramatically in a few weeks.

Don't panic unless you have chronic OCD. You'll get all the pieces, two months tops if you are a causal player. You might have to socialize in an MMO *gasp* but you probably will be able to trade or buy the ones you need with gold.

This is today's overraction thread. Move on nothing to worry about.

Rinmaethodain

amgame308_ESO wrote: »

Sounds like another "outrage" before the patch even goes live. I think people at this point like to use acronyms like "RNG" or sigh "I'm going to have to quit over this" Seriously, I've gotten all the motifs and recipes in game so far with little problem. It is either going to cost you time or money. Unless you want inside of 3 weeks after the patch what is the big deal. Same outcry with the XP pot recipe. The prices dropped dramatically in a few weeks.

Don't panic unless you have chronic OCD. You'll get all the pieces, two months tops if you are a causal player. You might have to socialize in an MMO *gasp* but you probably will be able to trade or buy the ones you need with gold.

This is today's overraction thread. Move on nothing to worry about.

Lmao,

Before PTS people who predicted how bad some mechanics are were shushed with "Bo ***, stop crying wait for PTS".

Now people without logical arguments will try to shush those who provide constructive critisism with "Bo ***, stop crying wait till it goes live"?

SLy_Kyti

I totally agree with OP.
This is madness.

If you have Two crafter's one doing say wood and one armors, that's two sets you need to farm.
Glass= 140 fragments
XIVkyn = 140 fragments
750,000 gold for resins to read them and put into book form

MULTIPLIED BY EACH CRAFTER to make gear.
Sheer Madness.

Note to @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MattFiror
Obviously ZOS thinks we all have just one CRAFTER that makes everything.
As it is my two 9 trait crafter's can't make anything that's desired at Rawl Kha kiosk's. Just dungeon drops sell. Way of Arena? Nope. Nirn gear? Maybe two or three nirn shields a month. With this system in place the desire to craft has ended for me. I ask what are you thinking ZOS but it seems to me you aren't. Aren't thinking at all.

Ysne58

This does sound like it's unwieldy. I have only found 3 pieces of the exp recipe since that was introduced, and that is doing that writ every day with my one vet character. I have only found one page of the dwemer trait set. RNG really works against me I guess. It feels like the intent of this IC release isn't just to cater to a specific and small part of the PvP group, it feels like it's meant to screw over the PvE players in general.

I don't like the 100% loss rate on the TV stones. I did resub again because of the upcoming changes for PvE. However, luring PvE in to get ganked in PvP is not a smart move for long run survivability for this game.

Garwulf

Ysne58 wrote: »

This does sound like it's unwieldy. I have only found 3 pieces of the exp recipe since that was introduced, and that is doing that writ every day with my one vet character. I have only found one page of the dwemer trait set. RNG really works against me I guess. It feels like the intent of this IC release isn't just to cater to a specific and small part of the PvP group, it feels like it's meant to screw over the PvE players in general.

I don't like the 100% loss rate on the TV stones. I did resub again because of the upcoming changes for PvE. However, luring PvE in to get ganked in PvP is not a smart move for long run survivability for this game.

I have 3 vet characters doing the Provisioning writs and have got 4 pieces of the experience recipe. Strangely all on the one character . The other 2, even though they are also maxed out in provisioning (+ passives) have got None!

Like Undaunted this is all too much of a Grind with little fun. Akin to banging your head agains a ZoS door.

SLy_Kyti

Garwulf wrote: »

Ysne58 wrote: »

This does sound like it's unwieldy. I have only found 3 pieces of the exp recipe since that was introduced, and that is doing that writ every day with my one vet character. I have only found one page of the dwemer trait set. RNG really works against me I guess. It feels like the intent of this IC release isn't just to cater to a specific and small part of the PvP group, it feels like it's meant to screw over the PvE players in general.

I don't like the 100% loss rate on the TV stones. I did resub again because of the upcoming changes for PvE. However, luring PvE in to get ganked in PvP is not a smart move for long run survivability for this game.

I have 3 vet characters doing the Provisioning writs and have got 4 pieces of the experience recipe. Strangely all on the one character . The other 2, even though they are also maxed out in provisioning (+ passives) have got None!

Like Undaunted this is all too much of a Grind with little fun. Akin to banging your head agains a ZoS door.

Yes, banging our heads against RNG until we do what is planned > buy them from the Crown shop.

BuggeX

I see no problem here, its just a style.

Not needed at all.

its the same as master fisher, no needed for any thing. just a titel to show dominance