Lets kill the rumor mill! Please ZOS answer these questions!

Kallipsoe

There are a lot of rumors running around now that @ZOS has failed to clarify and if we have the answers maybe we would stop arguing so much about IC and actually be excited for it's implementation. I really don’t look forward to the PVP aspects to IC but am looking forward to the two new dungeons. I would just like to know if I can stay competitive in PVE content if I choose not to be ganked in IC?

Q- If all Dungeons and Vet Dungeons are being raised to V16 will they drop armor/weapon/jewelry sets that are V16 also?

Answered - Yes http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2045874#Comment_2045874

Q- How will the armor/weapons/jewelry sets outside of IC PVP areas compare to other item sets in the game? If I choose not to go in PVP areas and just run the IC PVE dungeons will I ever get comparable gear?

Answered - The same armor sets will drop in the two new dungons but will be BOP where the item sets bought through stones will be BOE allowing you to trade or sale them. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2025658/#Comment_2025658

Q- If the dungeons outside of IC drop V16 gear will we be able to deconstruct this gear in order to craft V16 gear? Is the only way to craft new gear going to be from the PVP area of IC or buying it at an over inflated price through a guild trader?

Answered - Yes http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2045874#Comment_2045874

Q- Will players who do not wish to PvP in IC be able to update their gear to V16 “SETS” through PVE alone “NOT PURCHASED”, either through the dungeons in IC or outside?

Answered - Yes http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2045874#Comment_2045874

Q- Will Dragonstar Arena, Vet Dragonstar Arena and Trials be increased to V16 and the gear sets associated to each also be increased to V16?

Not Answered Yet!

Q- Why not make PVE and PVP gear exactly the same only that PVP gear gets additional bonuses and benefits while in Cyrodil or IC?

I’m perfectly 100% fine with Pvpers getting an update. I just don’t want to not be competitive in Vet Dungeons and Trials because the only way to upgrade my gear is through PvP content or spending all my gold to purchase material to craft gear. The market will be horrible if many of the game base fears about the new patch are correct. Remember when people would pay 50k or more for a vamp bite? The players would than camp spawn locations in order to kill spawns so they could keep the price high. I feel this DLC will bring out the worse in people.

MissBizz

Ooh ooh, I know some!

Kallipsoe wrote: »

Q- If all Dungeons and Vet Dungeons are being raised to V16 will they drop armor/weapon/jewelry sets that are V16 also?

Q- If the dungeons outside of IC drop V16 gear will we be able to deconstruct this gear in order to craft V16 gear? Is the only way to craft new gear going to be from the PVP area of IC or buying it at an over inflated price through a guild trader?

Q- Will players who do not wish to PvP in IC be able to update their gear to V16 “SETS” through PVE alone “NOT PURCHASED”, either through the dungeons in IC or outside?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2045874#Comment_2045874

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

@ZOSGinaBruno think you can find out if this is the case? With dungeons/pledges scaling to VR16, will mob dropped loot be able to be deconstructed for a chance at some of the new materials - in old dungeons scaled to VR16 and/or the new ones?

Yes. Dungeons will be scaled up to VR16, and the loot you receive from these dungeons will also drop up to VR16. Loot you receive from both old and new dungeons (the new ones being the White-Gold Tower and Imperial Prison) can be deconstructed for a chance at some of the new materials.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2025658/#Comment_2025658

MSchroeder wrote: »

I can't speak to engineering issues, but let me address some of the itemization questions.

Xael wrote: »

@ZOS_JasonLeavey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

I am aware there will be new sets but how about sets like Ravager, Morag Tong, Shadow Walker, Archmage, etc? Will these be updated at the launch or are they to be replaced with the new sets and fade into memory (Red Mountain)? I know it took you guys months to finally give us v14 versions of these sets, will you repeat this pattern? Also will be using AP to get these items or will we now need the Tel Var Stones? If so, this makes AP rather useless, especially those of us who are saving it.

About a dozen item sets from Cyrodiil are being updated and re-released in the Rewards for the Worthy and Leaderboard reward mails, and they will be available at every Level and Veteran Rank (including VR 16). Another dozen or so Cyrodiil sets have had their statistics updated, but will not be included in those mails.

Tel Var stones can only be gained and spent inside the Imperial City.

Shall we also assume this new gear will be 'bound' on pick up? This would force players to purchase a subscription and or DLC to have access to the new items.

The item sets in the new dungeons will be Bind on Pickup. However, item sets purchased via Tel Var stones are all Bind on Equip - meaning that you can sell them on Guild Stores or trade them to other players. Further, the crafting materials found in Imperial City can also be sold or traded, and used to craft VR 15 and VR 16 gear at any crafting bench.

Kallipsoe

Thanks @MissBizz

idk

That answers most of your questions. The items that are BoE can be purchased from guild stores making most if not all gear available.

Kallipsoe

I would just like to know about DSA, VDSA and Trials now. Will we be able to run these at V16?

MissBizz

Kallipsoe wrote: »

I would just like to know about DSA, VDSA and Trials now. Will we be able to run these at V16?

Sorry, don't know that one. The post I saw referencing the dungeons getting scaled (earlier, not the one I posted) said dungeons and pledges, so I just assumed trials would not scale - although.. that's just me assuming, not a solid answer. We should learn more about the sets this upcoming Friday during the quakecon panel, which is also being showed on ZOS's official twitch. I'm not sure if they will talk about the dungeon sets or just focus on the ones for TV though.

Kallipsoe

Wait hold the phone!

@_GinaBruno wrote "Yes. Dungeons will be scaled up to VR16, and the loot you receive from these dungeons will also drop up to VR16".

Its the up to part that concerns me.

Does this mean it will be like VDSA where loot drops at V13 until the last round where it finally drops at V14?

I have sick feeling that loot can drop at V16 in the dungeons but most of it will be V14 and only key boss's will drop V16.

MissBizz

Kallipsoe wrote: »

Wait hold the phone!

@_GinaBruno wrote "Yes. Dungeons will be scaled up to VR16, and the loot you receive from these dungeons will also drop up to VR16".

Its the up to part that concerns me.

Does this mean it will be like VDSA where loot drops at V13 until the last round where it finally drops at V14?

I have sick feeling that loot can drop at V16 in the dungeons but most of it will be V14 and only key boss's will drop V16.

No no no. Dungeons scaling will mean just what it already means... dungeons will scale just like the rest of them (not counting COA) So if the group leader is V1.. the dungeon will be V1. If they leader is V16, the dungeon will be V16. If a dungeon is V1 the loot will be V1.

F7sus4

Kallipsoe wrote: »

"Yes. Dungeons will be scaled up to VR16, and the loot you receive from these dungeons will also drop up to VR16".

Oh my beloved VR12 Worm Cult...

Lord Xanhorn

The most pressing question....Are the dungeons going to be more difficult? Right now even bad pugs steamroll most vet pledges very easily. Even Vet COH is a joke now when it used to be pretty challenging.

Preyfar

MissBizz wrote: »

No no no. Dungeons scaling will mean just what it already means... dungeons will scale just like the rest of them (not counting COA) So if the group leader is V1.. the dungeon will be V1. If they leader is V16, the dungeon will be V16. If a dungeon is V1 the loot will be V1.

True, but this doesn't apply to a lot of dungeons as it is now. Helm drops are limited to VR12, along with most of the really interesting drops in said dungeons (Ebon Armor, Worm Cult, etc).

Kallipsoe

MissBizz wrote: »

Kallipsoe wrote: »

Wait hold the phone!

@_GinaBruno wrote "Yes. Dungeons will be scaled up to VR16, and the loot you receive from these dungeons will also drop up to VR16".

Its the up to part that concerns me.

Does this mean it will be like VDSA where loot drops at V13 until the last round where it finally drops at V14?

I have sick feeling that loot can drop at V16 in the dungeons but most of it will be V14 and only key boss's will drop V16.

No no no. Dungeons scaling will mean just what it already means... dungeons will scale just like the rest of them (not counting COA) So if the group leader is V1.. the dungeon will be V1. If they leader is V16, the dungeon will be V16. If a dungeon is V1 the loot will be V1.

I really hope you are right.

Kerioko

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

The most pressing question....Are the dungeons going to be more difficult? Right now even bad pugs steamroll most vet pledges very easily. Even Vet COH is a joke now when it used to be pretty challenging.

yeah, being able to solo or duo vet dungeons (except CoA) and doing naked runs of DSA gets old quick.....more challenge would be nice!

Rinmaethodain

The dungeon scaling question answer is resolving only around VR15/16 gear.

But lets not forget that beside gear they said that there will be new runes (VR15/16 potency runestone) and new potions (i think its going to be now VR10 solvent? Maybe also VR15 food and drink recipes?

So as far as the gear materials question is answered, i dont think we have answer how are we supposed to obtain new runestones and new potion solvents?

If they want us to farm new VR15/16 runes by deconstructing VR15/16 glyphs this is going to be PITA, the rate of recovering runes from glyphs is terrible.

MissBizz

MaximusDargus wrote: »

The dungeon scaling question answer is resolving only around VR15/16 gear.

But lets not forget that beside gear they said that there will be new runes (VR15/16 potency runestone) and new potions (i think its going to be now VR10 solvent? Maybe also VR15 food and drink recipes?

So as far as the gear materials question is answered, i dont think we have answer how are we supposed to obtain new runestones and new potion solvents?

If they want us to farm new VR15/16 runes by deconstructing VR15/16 glyphs this is going to be PITA, the rate of recovering runes from glyphs is terrible.

@MaximusDargus I'm guessing that's how you'll have to find them... outside of buying them of course. The new runes were seen on ESO live in the Tel Var store, and I saw someone else mention the water - so I'm guessing that was in the store too and I just didn't look hard enough.

Preyfar wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

No no no. Dungeons scaling will mean just what it already means... dungeons will scale just like the rest of them (not counting COA) So if the group leader is V1.. the dungeon will be V1. If they leader is V16, the dungeon will be V16. If a dungeon is V1 the loot will be V1.

True, but this doesn't apply to a lot of dungeons as it is now. Helm drops are limited to VR12, along with most of the really interesting drops in said dungeons (Ebon Armor, Worm Cult, etc).

Helm drops are limited to VR12 because that's how high the dungeon scales, so I'm not sure what you mean @Preyfar

Komma

I highly doubt they are changing anything outside of cyrodiil and IC. All other dungeons and content will remain the same. Ite the normal progress of any mmo. As you get better content becomes trivial.

Kallipsoe

Komma wrote: »

I highly doubt they are changing anything outside of cyrodiil and IC. All other dungeons and content will remain the same. Ite the normal progress of any mmo. As you get better content becomes trivial.

@Komma It has already been confirmed that all the dungeons in the game will be increased to V16. Thanks to the post from @MissBizz it has been confirmed that the loot will scale with the dungeon.

MissBizz

Kallipsoe wrote: »

Komma wrote: »

I highly doubt they are changing anything outside of cyrodiil and IC. All other dungeons and content will remain the same. Ite the normal progress of any mmo. As you get better content becomes trivial.

@Komma It has already been confirmed that all the dungeons in the game will be increased to V16. Thanks to the post from @MissBizz it has been confirmed that the loot will scale with the dungeon.

@Kallipsoe You may want to add the quotes and links I posted to your opening post. Lots of times people won't read through the whole thread (I'm guilty of it lol) Or even just say "Answered" with a link to the mod post.

Preyfar

MissBizz wrote: »

Helm drops are limited to VR12 because that's how high the dungeon scales, so I'm not sure what you mean @Preyfar

That's exactly what I'm saying. Right now, the dungeons scale to a maximum rank (VR12). Yet with the proposed new scaled, is it actually going to up to VR16, or VR14, etc? There's always been a weird balance of what dungeon gear scales to compared to actual player rank. If it's scaling up that's good, but having to re-do the entire loot chase for gear I've already had is going to be kind of discouraging.

I can only do the same Undaunted pledges so many times.

Kallipsoe

Original Post Updated to Include links to answers.

MissBizz

Preyfar wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Helm drops are limited to VR12 because that's how high the dungeon scales, so I'm not sure what you mean @Preyfar

That's exactly what I'm saying. Right now, the dungeons scale to a maximum rank (VR12). Yet with the proposed new scaled, is it actually going to up to VR16, or VR14, etc? There's always been a weird balance of what dungeon gear scales to compared to actual player rank. If it's scaling up that's good, but having to re-do the entire loot chase for gear I've already had is going to be kind of discouraging.

I can only do the same Undaunted pledges so many times.

@Preyfar You answered your own question there kind of Currently, there's a weird system where the dungeons don't go as high as our player level does, BUT Gina stated in that post earlier that the dungeons will scale to VR16.. and the loot will scale to VR16 too "Yes. Dungeons will be scaled up to VR16, and the loot you receive from these dungeons will also drop up to VR16." So the weird part about dungeons not scaling as high as the player won't matter be an issue anymore.