Separation instance for subscribers

Betahkiin

Given recent performance problems, it occurred to me the following.

Perhaps it would be possible to ZOS can configure their servers so they can manage separate instances of play where they can guarantee the quality of service who pay monthly subscription.

Instance 1: Designated subscribers only (guaranteeing priority access, priority maintenance and upgrades, server stability and priority customer service assistance in game).

Instance 2: Designated to non-subscribers (considering you do not pay for the service, good luck).

Lord Xanhorn

Maybe they could put boosters in there that give people who pay an advantage in winning. That sounds like a great idea! We can even use the acronym P2W. Yay!

Slurg

I haven't noticed any performance issues caused by extra players in my instances. Is this yet another one of these segregation threads meant to punish free players?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

They did not manage to give subscribers that kind of service during the first eleven months after release. What makes you think they could do it now, with far less subscribers and as serious problems as ever before? Whenever (if ever) they find a fix, just let everyone benefit from it, subscriber or not.

Soulshine

This again. No thank you.

Kalfis

Oh goody! Another lets separate the playerbase because I'm more important thread.

vovus69

This is really bad idea without global auction house.

Betahkiin

Slurg wrote: »

I haven't noticed any performance issues caused by extra players in my instances. Is this yet another one of these segregation threads meant to punish free players?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

They did not manage to give subscribers that kind of service during the first eleven months after release. What makes you think they could do it now, with far less subscribers and as serious problems as ever before? Whenever (if ever) they find a fix, just let everyone benefit from it, subscriber or not.

Kalfis wrote: »

Oh goody! Another lets separate the playerbase because I'm more important thread.

Prejudge, you love it.

No, it is not segregate.

And yes, the problem is long overdue.

It is investing resources to ensure quality service for suscriber payers.

Without this supposed special people who pay, free play not exist for anyone, is a fact.

So if, if there is a possibility of a server optimization with the current and limited technology to ensure quality Connection of those who pay monthly subscription, I love her.

bosmern_ESO

There is already multiple instances in the servers.

If one instance is too crowded (due to stability, materials, questing area) players will be put into another instance to reduce those problems.

BigM

Aha NO!

Betahkiin

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

There is already multiple instances in the servers.

If one instance is too crowded (due to stability, materials, questing area) players will be put into another instance to reduce those problems.

Yes, but these multiple instances could be contained in a separate segment of the server to those who do not pay guaranteeing performance and quality of service.

BigM wrote: »

Aha NO!

The forum is for that express the personal opinion without discrediting others or fall into ridicule.

LucyferLightbringer

No performance issues at all, maybe you should stop subing yourself and upgrade your 50 year old pc instead :P Geting beter internet connection might help aswell.

theweakminded

I want to separate sub players from non-sub players so that one gets better service, but its not a segregation. At least Jim Crow laws had the façade of "separate but equal."

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

cough *elitist* cough

Ysne58

I'm opposed to this idea, it just feels wrong to separate paying from non paying players.

Betahkiin

LucyferLightbringer wrote: »

No performance issues at all, maybe you should stop subing yourself and upgrade your 50 year old pc instead :P Geting beter internet connection might help aswell.

Sorry, sorry to contradict you but I have a computer that exceeds the recommended requirements.

Sorry, sorry to contradict you but my internet connection allows me to share PvP instances with 200 simultaneous players in other MMORPG without any kind of inconvenience.

Kragorn

@Betahkiin NO!

You're not special simply because you CHOOSE to pay a sub. .. nor am I.

DominusPax

I haven't noticed any issues with connection. I do however have an issue with the OP's tone.

Betahkiin

theweakminded wrote: »

I want to separate sub players from non-sub players so that one gets better service, but its not a segregation. At least Jim Crow laws had the façade of "separate but equal."

The concept of segregation in a private service that requires financing is wrong.

Maybe it's time you learned when you can use a word and when do not and stop prejudging others for your failure.

Ysne58

Segregation is exactly what you seem to be suggesting @Betakhin. As I said earlier, I'm opposed to it.

Betahkiin

Kragorn wrote: »

@Betahkiin NO!

You're not special simply because you CHOOSE to pay a sub. .. nor am I.

Private service.

Business.

Inversion of money.

No, I'm not special or better person, I clarify, I'm just part of who enable users to use a service without paying.

I am who invests in a private business.

I am not a better person, my ideas are not better than others, I'm not special.

Betahkiin

Ysne58 wrote: »

Segregation is exactly what you seem to be suggesting @Betakhin. As I said earlier, I'm opposed to it.

Segregation in a private business that requires funding and where nobody is forced to participate ...

No, it is not correct to use that word, sorry.

Rosveen

Betahkiin wrote: »

I am who invests in a private business.

You are not an investor, you're a customer.

JamilaRaj

That would undermine whole P2W concept of Tamriel Unlimited. If you were separated from lesser people in premium instance, you would in theory still have all (paid for) advantages over them and even a few more on top of it (priority access etc.), but you could not compare directly with them; you would not be able to percieve your advantages and therefore they would be as though nonexistant. Credit card warriors would be unhappy, demotivated to spend their dollars/euros, and ZOS would be then unhappy too.

theweakminded

You do not have to say you think you are better than others, the way you speak and the words you use say that perfectly clearly.

Private service that the company made available sub-free.
Non-sub users paid for the game and often buy from cash shops. (sorry to burst your bubble but that means they pay too. Often more than sub players like yourself.


Your point is pretty easy to summarize so I will do it so that you can see what you are saying through the eyes of the people telling you this idea is stupid.
Sub players are better than non sub because they pay a sub.
ZOS making the game sub-free should mean sub players get better servers/treatment.

AlienSlof

Absolutely not.

I subbed this game for 6 months. Came back recently and play unsubbed. However, I still bought a pack of crowns to use in the shop. Should I then be segregated out, even though I've still supported the game? No.

I hate this elitist attitude in gaming.

Kragorn

Betahkiin wrote: »

Kragorn wrote: »

@Betahkiin NO!

You're not special simply because you CHOOSE to pay a sub. .. nor am I.

Private service.

Business.

Inversion of money.

No, I'm not special or better person, I clarify, I'm just part of who enable users to use a service without paying.

I am who invests in a private business.

I am not a better person, my ideas are not better than others, I'm not special.

So stop asking for special treatment. It's your CHOICE to pay.

I love some folks sense of entitlement.

Soulshine

There have already been several threads about this months ago, so I am not sure for how long you have subbed but if you have been around for any length of time let alone actually used a search feature, you would know throwing out this topic again just creates a lot of negativity on the forums.

Betahkiin

Initially when only those paying monthly subscription could play, ZOS was elitist and segregating users?

They are saying that any private company that benefits those who invests more money and give them priority is elitist and are segregating customers?

Ysne58

I agree with both @AlienSlof and @soulshine. @Betahkin it really doesn't matter where segregation happens whether it's public property or private property when you are separating two or more groups of people it is segregation. It does lead to lots of negativity.

Betahkiin

Soulshine wrote: »

There have already been several threads about this months ago, so I am not sure for how long you have subbed but if you have been around for any length of time let alone actually used a search feature, you would know throwing out this topic again just creates a lot of negativity on the forums.

It means that the forum is only for those who think in a specific way and anyone who thinks differently should shut up?

Why not take it as an opinion and express itself?

Something like, do not think so thanks.

The attack on me and the constant incitement to not talk about this subject is nothing but an act of segregation.

If I do not think like you, I have no right to speak ...

Ironic.

The key is to take it as a place to exchange opinions and disagree manifest without aggression or attempts to silence.