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XP BOOST POTIONS POLL, voice your opinion! (huge poll)

LEGENDARYYY
LEGENDARYYY
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How should ZOS implement XP boost potions?

READ BEFORE ANSWERING:

Since I cannot edit this poll and avoid misunderstandings, I gotta clarify:

"less then 2 hour 25% boost", means both less duration AND/OR lower boost %.
"more then 2 hour 25% boost", means both longer duration AND/OR higher boost %.

Sorry B)
Edited by LEGENDARYYY on March 21, 2015 3:00AM
CP capped.

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EP - Argonian - Tired-Of-Cats - Magicka Sorc PvPer
EP - Khajit - Cutepaws - Banker
EP - Redguard - Jathod Trearan - Stamina DK DD
EP - Redgaurd - Dhenus Okzhat-Si - Stamina Sorcerer DD (vMSA toon, 569K)
EP - Altmer - Haqsin - Magicka Sorc DD
EP - Altmer - Minia Feaine - Templar Healer

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XP BOOST POTIONS POLL, voice your opinion! (huge poll) 355 votes

XP potions should not be implemented at all!
32%
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Crown store only, less then 2 hour 25% boost
2%
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Crown store only, 2 hour 25% boost
4%
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Crown store only, more then 2 hour 25% boost
7%
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Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, less then 2h 25% boost
6%
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Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, 2h 25% boost
9%
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Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, more then 2h 25% boost
10%
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In-game gold/crafting only, not crown store.
2%
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Other (explain)
9%
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I don't care
15%
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  • LEGENDARYYY
    LEGENDARYYY
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, less then 2h 25% boost
    If craftable it has to be a super rare ingredient!
    CP capped.

    EP - Nord - Eystein Blodsbringar - Tristat DK Tank
    EP - Nord - Eyjolf Blodsbringar - Stamina NB PvPer
    EP - Argonian - Tired-Of-Cats - Magicka Sorc PvPer
    EP - Khajit - Cutepaws - Banker
    EP - Redguard - Jathod Trearan - Stamina DK DD
    EP - Redgaurd - Dhenus Okzhat-Si - Stamina Sorcerer DD (vMSA toon, 569K)
    EP - Altmer - Haqsin - Magicka Sorc DD
    EP - Altmer - Minia Feaine - Templar Healer

    + about 20 deleted alts

    GM of Pact Veteran Trade (Craglorn), Traders of the Ebonheart (Mournhold), Pact Veteran Trade II (Mournhold)

    All part of the "Akatosh Imperium".

    Want competitive Cyrodiil? Support THIS thread.

    Me soloing Veteran Elden Hollow and AA: HERE
  • olsborg
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    Other (explain)
    I liked the one that was pictured in another thread, 2 hours with 50%

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • Khaldar
    Khaldar
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    Other (explain)
    If you are going to make XP potions and expect them to generate revenue, they will need to be more than 25%.

    In theory, 25% bonus would be 5 potion earned CP for every 4 normal earned CP. 4 normal CP would take, in theory, 2+ hours of grinding per CP. So that means 8+ hours of grinding and 4 XP potions for one additional CP. In my opinion, its not worth the weak buff to hassle with them for 1 additional CP per 4.

    So I would probably not waste my time with them. The price wouldn't be the issue. The convenience would be.
  • LEGENDARYYY
    LEGENDARYYY
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, less then 2h 25% boost
    Khaldar wrote: »
    If you are going to make XP potions and expect them to generate revenue, they will need to be more than 25%.

    In theory, 25% bonus would be 5 potion earned CP for every 4 normal earned CP. 4 normal CP would take, in theory, 2+ hours of grinding per CP. So that means 8+ hours of grinding and 4 XP potions for one additional CP. In my opinion, its not worth the weak buff to hassle with them for 1 additional CP per 4.

    So I would probably not waste my time with them. The price wouldn't be the issue. The convenience would be.

    damn what a bummer, I kinda meant to put that in the poll. I should have written "more then 25% boost for 2 hours" instead. Now all the polls seem locked to 25% which wasn't my intention at all. This poll is now broken and I can't change it.
    CP capped.

    EP - Nord - Eystein Blodsbringar - Tristat DK Tank
    EP - Nord - Eyjolf Blodsbringar - Stamina NB PvPer
    EP - Argonian - Tired-Of-Cats - Magicka Sorc PvPer
    EP - Khajit - Cutepaws - Banker
    EP - Redguard - Jathod Trearan - Stamina DK DD
    EP - Redgaurd - Dhenus Okzhat-Si - Stamina Sorcerer DD (vMSA toon, 569K)
    EP - Altmer - Haqsin - Magicka Sorc DD
    EP - Altmer - Minia Feaine - Templar Healer

    + about 20 deleted alts

    GM of Pact Veteran Trade (Craglorn), Traders of the Ebonheart (Mournhold), Pact Veteran Trade II (Mournhold)

    All part of the "Akatosh Imperium".

    Want competitive Cyrodiil? Support THIS thread.

    Me soloing Veteran Elden Hollow and AA: HERE
  • ashlee17
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    XP potions should not be implemented at all!
    The best way to sell xp potions (convience) is to make normal xp gain slow(inconvenient).

    Xp potions are not a temporary boost for some, they are in reality a permanent xp nerf for all.
  • Dekken_Blake
    Dekken_Blake
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    Other (explain)
    I think that EXP potions that have an effect on Champion point gain should have less than a 30% boost, a timer of 2 hours, and at least a 12 hour cool down. If an experience boosting potion is going to have a 50% bonus to EXP gain, it should not have an effect on CP gain.

    As a personal preference, I think EXP boosting potions should not have any effect on Champion Point gain. The only thing that should have an effect on the speed of CP gained is enlightenment that is accrued on a timer and not from a bought item.

    If there is an added option to craft the potion, I think it should come with an expansion/overhaul of the Alchemy craft as a whole. The EXP boosting ingredient should be reasonably rare. I understand that is not likely to happen, but that would be my preference.

    I would like to see comparable EXP boosting potions available for in-game gold as well as crowns, regardless of whether or not they influence CP gain.
  • golfer.dub17_ESO
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    XP potions should not be implemented at all!
    If XP Potions exist, they shouldn't give any boost at all to champion points. Otherwise you just create a giant divide between players and promote pay2win.

    If they only apply to veteran levels, I guess I'm fine with it. Some people play casually, others grind to hit max rank, still others choose to simply pay for max rank. Either way everyone eventually reaches max rank, thus doesn't bother me.
    Edited by golfer.dub17_ESO on March 21, 2015 3:37AM
  • frould
    frould
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    Other (explain)
    Maybe, potions that act like an enlightenment example 20% EXP boost until you reach the limit(200k exp). also craftable.
    Edited by frould on March 21, 2015 3:54AM
  • Rydik
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, 2h 25% boost
    Right solution here is to block potion effect on CP, only for more faster leveling, but no bonuses to CP gain speed.
  • Tintinabula
    Tintinabula
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    The majority of people don't need xp gain..we are V14..we need enlightenment gain .
  • GaldorP
    GaldorP
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    Other (explain)
    Here's my suggestion:

    - Weekly limit of 5 XP potions of any kind per account!
    - Bronze XP Potion/Beginner's XP Potion: 100% increased XP for characters of level 1-50 (has no effect for veteran rank characters and does not increase Champion XP); lasts 2 hours; costs 100 crowns.
    - Silver XP Potion/Veteran XP Potion: 50% increased XP (regular XP for all levels, including veteran ranks; Champion XP not affected; not affected by Enlightenment); lasts 2 hours; costs 100 crowns.
    - Gold XP Potion/Champion XP Potion: 25% increased XP and 25% increased Champion XP (veteran rank characters only; not affected by Enlightenment); lasts 2 hours; costs 100 crowns.
    - Only one potion effect can be active at a time!

    Formula suggestion for regular XP:
    basic XP + basic XP * ( Pledge of Mara bonus modifier + ESO Plus Member bonus modifier + potion bonus modifier )
    Basic XP would be the amount of XP a character would receive without any bonuses (but with increases or reductions based on group size and contribution already included).
    The Pledge of Mara bonus/ESO Plus Member bonus modifiers would be .1 (if the character has that specific bonus) or 0 (if the character doesn't have that bonus).
    The potion bonus modifiers would be 1 for Bronze Potions, .5 for Silver Potions, and .25 for Gold Potions (if the character has the effect of that specific potion) or 0 (if the character doesn't have the effect of any potion).

    Formula suggestion for Champion XP:
    basic XP + basic XP * ( Enlightenment modifier + Pledge of Mara bonus modifier + ESO Plus Member bonus modifier + Gold Potion bonus modifier )
    The Enlightenment modifier would be 3 (for enlightened characters) or 0 (for characters that are not currently enlightened).
    The Gold Potion modifier would be .25 (if the character has that effect) or 0 (if the character doesn't have that effect).

    Examples:
    A character without the Pledge of Mara bonus and without the ESO Plus bonus kills a monster that grants him or her 100 basic XP:
    - Without Enlightenment and without any XP Potion: 100 regular XP and 100 Champion XP
    - Without Enlightenment but with Silver XP Potion 150 regular XP and 100 Champion XP
    - Without Enlightenment but with Gold XP Potion 125 regular XP and 125 Champion XP
    - With Enlightenment but without any XP Potion: 100 regular XP and 400 Champion XP
    - With Enlightenment and with Silver Potion: 150 regular XP and 400 Champion XP
    - With Enlightenment and with Gold Potion: 125 regular XP and 425 Champion XP
    Edited by GaldorP on March 21, 2015 3:15PM
  • Inactive Account
    Inactive Account
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    Other (explain)
    No potions, just increase in game Xp back to what it was prior 1.6.
    The More you play the more you get.
    If you really want a boost, pay for the sub.

    If you are a hard core gamer and want to reach the top tier faster, then play more.
    If you are a casual gamer, pay for the sub and get your boost (10%) from that.

    You do know the sub boost is Always On....right?
    Edited by Inactive Account on March 21, 2015 4:25AM
  • olemanwinter
    olemanwinter
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    Other (explain)
    I don't care what kind of experience boosters are available. The more the better because leveling alts in this game is BRUTAL.

    BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD XP BOOSTING POTIONS APPLY TO CHAMPION POINTS.
  • Endurance
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    I don't care
    making it a weekend event every week would be much better than making it a shop item.. but then again i dont complain about the exp rate because i can grind any game no problem
    I'm outta here
  • Prizax
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, more then 2h 25% boost
    lol all the people who just don't want xp potions are lame... Is it your first time playing a MMORPG?

    And if you don't like how the game works just quit, no one will really care, mostly from every veteran player that leaves, a new player just starts playing the game...
  • Khaldar
    Khaldar
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    Other (explain)
    The majority of people don't need xp gain..we are V14..we need enlightenment gain .

    And this is why it would not be a great source of revenue for ZOS... In this game state (B2P) revenue from the Crown Store = content. Without that we are stuck with the game we have. And many players don't value wedding dresses and mounts as valuable item for our dollar.
  • Khaldar
    Khaldar
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    Other (explain)
    I don't care what kind of experience boosters are available. The more the better because leveling alts in this game is BRUTAL.

    BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD XP BOOSTING POTIONS APPLY TO CHAMPION POINTS.

    And that thought process leaves us hoping people spend RL money on wedding dresses or we will all be looking for a new game in 6 months.
  • Audigy
    Audigy
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    I don't care
    Doesn't matter for me, XP is freely available by playing the game, if others take a shortcut then this is none of my business, nor does it influence me in the slightest.

    They can sell gold, boosts, items in the shop - it doesn't matter a bit as long I am able to get all the currencies myself while playing. XP, Gold and Items drop just fine - so no harm done offering them as well in the shop.
  • Exstazik
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, 2h 25% boost
    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, less then 2h 25% boost
    Also potion only affect 1-50 lvl
    Also up trial reward by 5 times and hard modes by 10 times
  • Saucy_Jack
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    Other (explain)
    I voted other; they should be rare drops from chests and/or from stealing/pickpocketing - like "mob collectible" rare.

    That way it would give players incentive to do something other than just grind grind grind grind, since they wouldn't be drops from killed mobs.
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  • Grapdjan
    Grapdjan
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    Shame you can't delete this poll and make another one with more clear choices.
  • Dekkameron
    Dekkameron
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    Other (explain)
    I think they should be a drop ONLY, they're legendary so make it as hard to loot as any other legendary.
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  • Iduyenn
    Iduyenn
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    1 Potion gives you 10% enkightment.

    Buyable in Store.

    Crowns buyable with gold

    /problem fixed


    And 50% is too low. With enlightenment i get not 150% but 400%
  • melianos
    melianos
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    I just don't know what to answer.
    I'm definitely OK with XP potions wold in store (crowns, maybe craftable too), but choosing whether it should be 2 hours or less, 25% or 50%, I don't know. It depends on how much they'd cost I guess, if you can craft better potions or the same ones, and many other factors.

    So simply put, in favor of XP potions, crowns or craft, but as to the power of those potions...
  • TheRealDoc
    TheRealDoc
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    Other (explain)
    You've limited it to 25% potions.

    I'd never buy a 25% potion, it's too low for the money.....
  • Frenkthevile
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, less then 2h 25% boost
    The exp potions should not apply to CPs or this game will be called ''P2W'' imho!
  • b_archaonpreeb18_ESO
    I don't care
    People cry too much about P2W.

    The truth is there is exactly one player ahead of all the others and exactly one player behind all the others. Most of us will never reach the first. The last will never reach most of us. Buying XP potions is like transferring time from your day job to your game. You work more irl to play less ingame, which is fine if that's how you roll.

    Just keep in mind that a missed block, a wrong dodge-roll or a mistimed skill can erase the advantage of hundreds of CP.

    Now, if the store starts selling powerful armor sets or weapons for crowns, I'll start worrying...
  • TheRealDoc
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    Other (explain)
    People cry too much about P2W.

    The truth is there is exactly one player ahead of all the others and exactly one player behind all the others. Most of us will never reach the first. The last will never reach most of us. Buying XP potions is like transferring time from your day job to your game. You work more irl to play less ingame, which is fine if that's how you roll.

    Just keep in mind that a missed block, a wrong dodge-roll or a mistimed skill can erase the advantage of hundreds of CP.

    This, why can't people get this?

    Too many people stuck in their selfish little worlds trying to stay ahead of each other by 1 millimeter.

    It's a frigging game that needs to make money to survive and the boosts will make not the slightest difference to you!

    Get your heads around it!
  • Ffastyl
    Ffastyl
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    I don't care
    To summarize the votes;
    At the time of this posting:
    28% Against
    56% For
    16% Neutral

    This voter's opinion:
    I likely will not use any XP potions implemented as I will get to cap eventually (or already there if CS XP is not boosted). Thus the debate is down to whether increased XP gains will give an advantage of one player over another. The knee-jerk is yes, because there is a power difference between levels. Second thought says no, as there is a level cap no one can pass. XP boosters fall under the grey area of Convenience vs P2W. They mean players can blaze through content a little faster, and that's it. But is being able to blaze through content faster an advantage?
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  • Arezius
    Arezius
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    Both crown store and available with in-game gold/crafting, 2h 25% boost
    Only XP for levelling, no effects on Champion points. Expensive in the crown store, and very hard to craft.
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