Does The ESO Community Want Small Scale PVP?

HeroOfNone

As stated in the last ESO Live there are no plans to add in small scale PVP in the short term.

I know a lot of PVPers aren't happy with this, but a lot of us don't post or vote. This is why things like player housing and new PVE zones are coming in upcoming DLC. Please vote or reply to keep this or another idea up on top of the fotums. We've had plenty of good suggestions in the past, but none have had even ought community sport to get a response from ZOS.

Prior Suggestions

[Suggestion] Claiming Districts in Imperial City
District Control Concept and why Imperial City needs it
Request for a Arena.
Improving On ESO S01E03) Small Scale PVP And Arena Also A Voting Poll
ESO Needs Small Scale PvP.
Batlegrounds and arenas PvP.
Cater to small scale pvp.
ZOS should stop bothering with AvA and focus on Structured PvP.
Arena PvP and Dueling
PvP arena's not later, not soon, but now!
Suggestion (PVP 4x4 - 24x24x24 Battlegrounds) ESO Arenas; Be a Daedric or Aedric Champion

So please; vote, reply, share it with your friends, and keep this up on the top of the forums if you really do want small scale PVP. If you can spam the zenimaxonlinestudios twitch chat room you can certainly give some replies here.

Thank you

Wollust

Other (please reply)

I don't see any reason to add more content to PvP if the current Pvp (Cyrodiil) is not even working because of lag and fps drops.

PBpsy

Solo PVP NAO.

Reznique

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

Wollust wrote: »

I don't see any reason to add more content to PvP if the current Pvp (Cyrodiil) is not even working because of lag and fps drops.

I agree, but adding more pvp content may take some stress away from Cyrodil this redusing the lag to some extent.

Vrienda

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

Don't care for PvP. I'd rather they focus resources elsewhere and stop nerfing everybody just for PvP.

Jitterbug

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

Aeula wrote: »

Don't care for PvP. I'd rather they focus resources elsewhere and stop nerfing everybody just for PvP.

Pay roll is already writing checks to some people on the PvP team - I don't think you'll mist out on anything by them also doing their jobs.
As to the nerfs/buffs, those will happen regardless.

FENGRUSH

Other (please reply)

Will get a real mixed plate in General Disc, Hero. I think most people do want Cyro - but a functional cyro. Today its still suffering performance issues. More than that though, you either jump in the ball groups or youre amongst a disorganized zerg being mowed down by a ball group eventually. And performance sucks ass all the way through.

1) I think focusing on addressing balance of ball groups which can be acheived through a few changes like aoe caps, revisit dynamic ult gen, rework defensive strengths like uncapped purge/barrier.

2) Longer term is reworking priorities in Cyro to break up the single front action where everyone is colliding on the same battles. Everyone is on a track to clash around the inner ring.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

Oh look yet another thread for like the 100th time about arenas.

Jitterbug

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Will get a real mixed plate in General Disc, Hero. I think most people do want Cyro - but a functional cyro. Today its still suffering performance issues. More than that though, you either jump in the ball groups or youre amongst a disorganized zerg being mowed down by a ball group eventually. And performance sucks ass all the way through.

1) I think focusing on addressing balance of ball groups which can be acheived through a few changes like aoe caps, revisit dynamic ult gen, rework defensive strengths like uncapped purge/barrier.

2) Longer term is reworking priorities in Cyro to break up the single front action where everyone is colliding on the same battles. Everyone is on a track to clash around the inner ring.

Yeah, I kinda agree, but the thing I like(d) about the districts was the small feel of the area. I enjoy the large scale battles (let's just pretend they're working) but most of the time I would rather PvP in a smaller area.
So, by all means make Cyro work, but what would the harm be in giving us a tiny map to PvP in with no significant gains?

HeroOfNone

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Will get a real mixed plate in General Disc, Hero. I think most people do want Cyro - but a functional cyro. Today its still suffering performance issues. More than that though, you either jump in the ball groups or youre amongst a disorganized zerg being mowed down by a ball group eventually. And performance sucks ass all the way through.

1) I think focusing on addressing balance of ball groups which can be acheived through a few changes like aoe caps, revisit dynamic ult gen, rework defensive strengths like uncapped purge/barrier.

2) Longer term is reworking priorities in Cyro to break up the single front action where everyone is colliding on the same battles. Everyone is on a track to clash around the inner ring.

I'm counting on a mixed bag of opinions. Folks complain that "everyone" wants small scale PVP, but it seems everyone doesn't reply to posts. There are also some PVE players out there that want small scale but never visit the alliance forums because they have no interest in the open PVP. So I'm happy to see it blow up here, rather than get buried in the alliance forum like other suggestions.

HeroOfNone

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Oh look yet another thread for like the 100th time about arenas.

Post up all 100 and I'll include them =3, tried to tag some of the larger discussions arenas previously had, notice the small reply count compared to PVE topics? We don't seem to support it as a whole, just as a fleeting idea.

DaveMoeDee

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

Poorly constructed poll.

There should be a negative answer available that matches the subject of the thread. "Neither, leave it as open world PVP only" is a lot different from "I don't have interest in small scale PvP". I am not opposed to people having it, but I'm not interested in it. Neither is the best answer of the ones you provide for where I stand.

Lava_Croft

Your thread implies that small scale PvP is something that needs to be added, which is not the case. Small scale PvP has always been a part of ESO, but the current problem is that the balance has shifted so much in favor of large groups that finding meaningful small scale PvP has become too hard.

Fix Cyrodiil. This means fixing both the performance as well as the overpowered large groups.

Aoife32001

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

I'm more concerned about other issues or desires than small-scale PvP. I've personally always enjoyed large-scale PvP more, and would love to see a reworking of Cyrodiil rather than a focus on adding small-scale PvP elements that will further drain the Cyrodiil population.

DaveMoeDee

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

Jitterbug wrote: »

Aeula wrote: »

Don't care for PvP. I'd rather they focus resources elsewhere and stop nerfing everybody just for PvP.

Pay roll is already writing checks to some people on the PvP team - I don't think you'll mist out on anything by them also doing their jobs.
As to the nerfs/buffs, those will happen regardless.

They can disband the PvP team and reallocate resources if they want to. Assigning someone to the PvP team means you didn't assign them elsewhere. So, yes, the previous poster does mist [sic] out. ZOS has a budget and there are opportunity costs for any allocation decisions.

Regarding nerfs, you answer is disingenuous. PvE people aren't complaining about skills, begging for rebalancing. Get rid of PvP and we will see pretty static skills.

HeroOfNone

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Poorly constructed poll.

There should be a negative answer available that matches the subject of the thread. "Neither, leave it as open world PVP only" is a lot different from "I don't have interest in small scale PvP". I am not opposed to people having it, but I'm not interested in it. Neither is the best answer of the ones you provide for where I stand.

Figured most wouldn't reply or vote if they felt this had no impact on them.

DaveMoeDee

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

Wollust wrote: »

I don't see any reason to add more content to PvP if the current Pvp (Cyrodiil) is not even working because of lag and fps drops.

I link your logic is inverted.

The lag is due to the large scale. If you add small scale PvP, it won't have the lag.

Don't be confused. Adding more PvP is NOT adding "more content to PvP" as the other forms of PvP would likely run on separate servers. The only way this makes lag worse in Cyrodiil is if offloading the small-scale fans leads to larger group battles in Cyrodiil.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Oh look yet another thread for like the 100th time about arenas.

Post up all 100 and I'll include them =3, tried to tag some of the larger discussions arenas previously had, notice the small reply count compared to PVE topics? We don't seem to support it as a whole, just as a fleeting idea.

That's my point the community my self included want a PvP arena but ZOS mainly #Wheebler hates them for some reason.

Lenikus

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

Adding small scale PvP like this will not change how the large scale world is, nor fix it, as it will still be the favored PvP option for farming points / rewards / etc. At best, it would just drag more PvE players or RP folks to 'duels'.

NobleNerd

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

OLIVI3R wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

I don't see any reason to add more content to PvP if the current Pvp (Cyrodiil) is not even working because of lag and fps drops.

I agree, but adding more pvp content may take some stress away from Cyrodil this redusing the lag to some extent.

There is only stress in Cyrodiil because players only play the two 30 day campaigns in Cyrodiil. All other campaigns are ghost towns in Cyrodiil. Imperial City ruined the Cyrodiil battles.

HeroOfNone

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Oh look yet another thread for like the 100th time about arenas.

Post up all 100 and I'll include them =3, tried to tag some of the larger discussions arenas previously had, notice the small reply count compared to PVE topics? We don't seem to support it as a whole, just as a fleeting idea.

That's my point the community my self included want a PvP arena but ZOS mainly #Wheebler hates them for some reason.

My point is that we keep making comments like this, "the community my self included want a PvP arena" has LOW support compared to PVE and other topics. Find me a link I didn't include regarding small scale PVE specifically and let's look at the post count or vote counts. This is how managers decide where to allocate resources, based on what ideas have the most hype with paying players.

CtrlAltDlt

Other (please reply)

I like both AvA and small scale. Lets not sacrifice one for the other

Olysja

1v1 Arenas

1v1 3v3 5v5 no bgs needed. they will zerg in BGs like they does outside.

SturgeHammer

Neither, leave it as open world PVP only

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rework defensive strengths like uncapped purge/barrier.

I've always felt that these abilities were designed to counter siege and other alliance war abilities so this may not be a popular solution, but if purge/barrier were tweaked to only remove debuffs/shield damage inflicted by siege or alliance war abilities then they would probably be fine as uncapped abilities. Then if zos deemed that there is a need for more cc clearing abilities, then that functionality currently present in armor abilities or resto staff abilities could get buffed to fill the gap.

DenMoria

Other (please reply)

No PvP at all.

Ganking is for morally lacking players.

vladimilianoub17_ESO1

4v4v4 to 12v12v12 Battlegrounds

I rarely PvP but with XvXvX battlegrounds im going to be totally hookup with pvp

HeroOfNone

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

DenMoria wrote: »

No PvP at all.

Ganking is for morally lacking players.

Some folks are just filled with DETERMINATION, and others just like having a bad time...

Tandor

Other (please reply)

I have no interest in small scale or any other form of PvP, and am wholly opposed to any form of PvP in the open world.

Korah_Eaglecry

4v4v4 to 12v12v12 Battlegrounds

Solo PvP would wreak havoc on Large Scale. And Large Scale would wreak havoc on solo. The Devs would spend so much of their time bouncing between balancing for the two it would inevitably break what balance we do have.

Im fine with 4v4v4 or 12v12v12 as it might actually work out that balance can be achieved without harming either playstyle too much. But this games PvPs core is Large Scale and that should never bend to the will of an even smaller demographic within an already small demographic.

Mystikkal

Other (please reply)

XvX Battlegrounds. 6v6, 10v10, 15v15.

Flattedfifth

Both 1v1 Arenas & XvXvX Battlegrounds

Some kind of open world/justice system/enforcer pvp would be incredible as well!