Official Feedback Thread for Scrolling Combat Text

exiledtyrant · February 2016

Would like to see over healing and buffs/debuffs. Everything else about the scrolling combat text was nice. It just needs to relay slightly more information and I won't ever need an add on again.

EsoRecon · February 2016

SCT may be the one thing I am most excited for this patch.

Elijah_Crow · February 2016

Casdha wrote: »

On a side note in that video I posted. In the middle of it there is a fully charged Heavy arrow attack that passes right through without hitting and toward the end there is a Brawler that passes right through without hitting. Is this normal?

Those attacks hit during the time the mob was invulnerable after his leap and landing. My SCT add on (Combat Cloud) would have said "immune" to those hits. ZOS SCT just ignored it. This is why I will continue to use Combat Cloud. I'm not sure why ZOS would not look at best in class current add on's when they finally implement features like this.

Casdha · February 2016

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

On a side note in that video I posted. In the middle of it there is a fully charged Heavy arrow attack that passes right through without hitting and toward the end there is a Brawler that passes right through without hitting. Is this normal?

Those attacks hit during the time the mob was invulnerable after his leap and landing. My SCT add on (Combat Cloud) would have said "immune" to those hits. ZOS SCT just ignored it. This is why I will continue to use Combat Cloud. I'm not sure why ZOS would not look at best in class current add on's when they finally implement features like this.

Thanks for the answer

I would have never known that as I turn all this stuff of in AUI. The only things I use normally are the buff timers, mini-map (yea I know, but remember I was never against the option to have it) and DPS meter.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · February 2016

This has probably been asked already, but is there a way to alter the numbers? As in different size, font, colour? I know that this is not possible through the base UI, maybe via addons? Although this should be available for the console people as well

85flyingbrick_ESO · February 2016

Kayrne wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

First of all, thank you for this.

I've seen many posts for this and tho I personally didn't care for it....now that its here, it helps as I don't use any add-ons and stay int he console UI

-Now...a few suggestions

1. in settings please offer text size increase and decrease, font changes and color
2. allow a spell or skill icon beside the dmg or healing so we know what is doing what. This resolves the request for debuff and stuff.
3. allow some effects to linger with their icons...use the death recap icons too...and SCT as it ticks before I die but while playing

This!

I would add that the text fade/scrolls a bit too fast for me to read all of it. Can there be a control the speed/direction of the scrolling?

Lalaeith · February 2016

I really like the SCT. Will have to test it a bit more, but currently I like it a lot.

I would love to see some settings options for font/size and maybe a toggle for ability icons like it was mentioned before. And I'm looking forward to seeing a buff/debuff tracker in a future update

Sidney · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for SCT. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes:
Did you turn SCT on and use it during combat?

Do you have any feedback on the visual style or accuracy of the tool?

Do you have any other general feedback?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Yes
Accuracy appears fine but I wasn't 100% sure if I was looking at crits or not. I can only make an assumption at this point that orange is for crits. It's easy to see the text overall - clean and large font.
Yes - We need further configuration options to:
- Better be able to differentiate between criticals or non criticals.
- Configure the font/size. I personally would like my combat text smaller except in the case of a critical hit.
- Change the color. The colors are fine for me and easy to see but I imagine there will be some people out there with variations of color blindness that may have difficulty so it would be nice if they could configure it to something they can easily see.
- Change the area it shows in - draggable sections.
- Incoming and outgoing should have the option to be split apart.

This was a welcomed addition to the game by the way. Very happy to see this. Yet another addon I can finally toss!

Cinbri · February 2016

I fount that it has error on showing CC. For example: if I land Luminous Shards on 5 enemies, SCT will show 5 disorients, while Shards can apply disorient only on 1 target.

Brrrofski · February 2016

For us on console it looks great. We have nothing so far so this'll be good.

Why not buff trackers as well though? Any reason behind that?

Enodoc · February 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

For us on console it looks great. We have nothing so far so this'll be good.

Why not buff trackers as well though? Any reason behind that?

@Brrrofski Because they haven't finished them yet

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2016

SCT keeps crashing my game. (64bit, Win7). Not immediately, but as soon as I enter combat and use a weapon/ability.

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bsmorrowb14_ESO · February 2016

Love it. But wont use it til there are some icons or add'l text that explains the source of the dmg.

Azharan · February 2016

SCT crashes my client both 32 and 64 bits (Windows 7) as soon as I deal or receive damages.

Praseodyme · February 2016

Azharan wrote: »

SCT crashes my client both 32 and 64 bits (Windows 7) as soon as I deal or receive damages.

I have exactly got the same issue.
Should it be related to Windows 7 ?

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2016

Praseodyme wrote: »

Azharan wrote: »

SCT crashes my client both 32 and 64 bits (Windows 7) as soon as I deal or receive damages.

I have exactly got the same issue.
Should it be related to Windows 7 ?

Same here. Win7 too. All add ons gone (I mean gone, deleted, not deactivated).

ZOS_KaiSchober · February 2016

Those of you encountering crashes with SCT, please let us know which language you use for your client. EN, DE, or FR?

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2016

FR for me.

Praseodyme · February 2016

Azharan · February 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2016

3xFR... maybe we've nailed it ;-)

Zaenidd · February 2016

J2JMC · February 2016

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Haven't played yet but it looks brilliant! 10x better than any addon.

Yo don't say stuff like this because you're only hurting those of us who don't have add-ons to work with. The current SCT is not better than any add-on but it is definitely better than the complete lack of information we currently have. As others have said, being able to know what specific skills/procs are causing damage and healing would be nice. Furthermore, adding buff/dot timers for skills, as well as being able to see actual numbers on our resource bars would be great.

davidjournotb16_ESO · February 2016

FR too
Client crashed as soon as I entered combat after activating SCT.

Cinbri · February 2016

It doesn't show damage dealt by reflected abilities.

NBrookus · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for SCT. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes:
Did you turn SCT on and use it during combat?

Do you have any feedback on the visual style or accuracy of the tool?

Do you have any other general feedback?

1) Yes.
2) Really like the placement versus scrolling to the left or right. However, it is unclear what each of the numbers mean. For example, force pulse pops up a LOT of numbers. And is the exclamation point mean a critical hit, or what?
3) Suggest an online guide, of nothing else, outlining which colors and fonts are which kind of damage.

baratron · February 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

1. in settings please offer text size increase and decrease, font changes and color
2. allow a spell or skill icon beside the dmg or healing so we know what is doing what. This resolves the request for debuff and stuff.
3. allow some effects to linger with their icons...use the death recap icons too...and SCT as it ticks before I die but while playing

I am also completely underwhelmed with the scrolling combat log. I'm sitting next to my bf as he plays on the PTS and it is impossible to tell in normal play which ability is giving which amount of damage. It would be fine for a test where you literally spam a single skill to test your damage output from it, but it isn't helpful for normal play because there are no names or icons next to the numbers.

Why are some of the numbers smaller than others? We get that ! means crit, but what do brackets around numbers mean?

Also using red, green, and shades of orange as the basic colours and not allowing changes is just sad. There are already colour-blind gamers who struggle with ESO.

Samphaa · February 2016

Not really a fan of it, neither are my friends ive spoke to. I have waited 5 months for something like this and to me it just looks like a load of number popping out from behind an enemies head, no real way to tell what ability did what damage unless you stand there and spam 1 ability. And why are there exclamation marks that look like 1's on the end? I just want numbers.

It needs options to be moved, increased or decreased in size and change colour. Would also greatly make sense for you to include a small skill icon next to each damage number.

At this point in time buff timers are what I want more than anything else after this disappointment.

Brrrofski · February 2016

baratron wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

1. in settings please offer text size increase and decrease, font changes and color
2. allow a spell or skill icon beside the dmg or healing so we know what is doing what. This resolves the request for debuff and stuff.
3. allow some effects to linger with their icons...use the death recap icons too...and SCT as it ticks before I die but while playing

I am also completely underwhelmed with the scrolling combat log. I'm sitting next to my bf as he plays on the PTS and it is impossible to tell in normal play which ability is giving which amount of damage. It would be fine for a test where you literally spam a single skill to test your damage output from it, but it isn't helpful for normal play because there are no names or icons next to the numbers.

Why are some of the numbers smaller than others? We get that ! means crit, but what do brackets around numbers mean?

Also using red, green, and shades of orange as the basic colours and not allowing changes is just sad. There are already colour-blind gamers who struggle with ESO.

Yeh, to be honest, watching streams on twitch I could only see white, green and red text. Was a bit annoyed when sypher said something about orange text.

Red, black, white, blue. Why don't devs use these colours more often for stuff. Nobody has colour blindness that mixes them up.

Red and green though, in every game. The most common coulor blindness. AOEs in dungeons are a nightmare on this. As soon as the floor is green I have no idea I'm in a big red circle. A lot of other games use these two colours though. At least some like battlefield have an option to change it.

Dreddlock- · February 2016

Ffastyl wrote: »

The SCT is very satisfying in third person. The numbers are admittedly immersion detracting, but the SCT can be toggled. In first person the numbers float near the edges of the screen and get behind certain UI elements, like the enemy health bar and player action bar, making them hard/impossible to read.

Upon further testing, I toggled to the PC UI and found the numbers do not have the same issue of being obstructed though the incoming numbers are a little too out of the way. I need to focus on them rather than the fight to read the incoming stats in first person. In the console UI the HUD elements are too large and obscure the SCT in its current positioning.

Having the numbers appear on the target is very pleasing to see and informative in an intuitive way.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

This is great feedback, please listen to this guy. Listen to ALL of it!