Warning : Teleporting bots are back!
Brasseurfb16_ESO
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Hi,
I was runing around Deshaan and did my usual stuff and I saw some nice blue enchant gem node, I go there to pick my reward for my keen eye, and a player happen to take it in front of me. Not much a problem I assumed he was there first and I got a bit of latency.
Only problem is, when I tried to get near of the other harvesting nodes not far from the first one, that guy (or probably a bot) teleported right away in front of those before I could even get a single one of those.
While I think their might be no real impact on the economy sinds there is only guilds auction houses, it is very frustrating to see people cheating and use third party programs after 4 days of release.
I personnaly sended a ticket for cheating, but I do hope Zenimax will make sure that kind of behaviour is not possible to recreate in a soon update.
I was runing around Deshaan and did my usual stuff and I saw some nice blue enchant gem node, I go there to pick my reward for my keen eye, and a player happen to take it in front of me. Not much a problem I assumed he was there first and I got a bit of latency.
Only problem is, when I tried to get near of the other harvesting nodes not far from the first one, that guy (or probably a bot) teleported right away in front of those before I could even get a single one of those.
While I think their might be no real impact on the economy sinds there is only guilds auction houses, it is very frustrating to see people cheating and use third party programs after 4 days of release.
I personnaly sended a ticket for cheating, but I do hope Zenimax will make sure that kind of behaviour is not possible to recreate in a soon update.
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DMuehlhausen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not be an *** or cynical, but it took them 4 days? I would have been happy if took them more than 4 hours.1 -
Pingu✭This is a massive issue if im honest, and has a chance of really destabilizing what is trying to be - an economy. No word from Zenimax I assume?4 -
Rad✭✭Teleporting node thiefs are here for sure. Saw two of them in Dahlmora, both low level, prison outfits. One got scared and left when I followed. Got a screenshot and reported the other. As I type this he's active on EU.
Sad that this is happening. Can only blame the suckers that buy the service and actually give these poor soods a reason to do this.Edited by Rad on April 8, 2014 6:55PM4 -
Tieberion✭✭✭Same, saw a lvl 4 in rags named with just a bunch of letters porting around and insta gathering every node in the area. GM's/DEV's please hit these guys with a shoe ASAP6 -
Kemono✭✭✭Thread about this on Reddit (with YT vids included)
http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/22isqu/video_teleport_hack/
And yes -this is major issue, Zenimax should fight botter first, folks that transfer gold second -cos they quite often not guilty of breaking the TOS
Security of game is not very good if teleport bot are working in first week after release4 -
Glog✭✭Usually when im questing i get a good amount of harvesting done at the same time and by the end of my play session iv gotten just enough to make a complete armor set (have +2 keen eyes aswell).
However lately i havnt even found half of what im used to seeing/harvesting. So if this is the cause, it explains so much. And it really needs fixing.3 -
cheeser123✭✭✭The Chinese government forces prisoners to mine gold in Diablo 3 for 18 hours a day. I'm sure they're working hard to mine materials in this game too. I have no idea how that becomes cost-effective at 60 each or 75+15/mo respectively, but somehow it is.1 -
ZOS_TristanK✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thank you for reporting the initial incident, folks, and for all of the additional information. Please be sure to report these characters in-game as well so that we can investigate.2 -
cheeser123✭✭✭ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Thank you for reporting the initial incident, folks, and for all of the additional information. Please be sure to report these characters in-game as well so that we can investigate.
Assuming this is something that people might have to report often, what is the procedure for reporting this? It's not a bug, so /bug is probably wrong. Can you give a detailed idea of how we should report this kind of activity, what information to include, how to make sure it's tagged or otherwise marked appropriately so that it gets to the right people so that these bots can get banned lickedy split?2 -
Monsoon✭✭✭ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Thank you for reporting the initial incident, folks, and for all of the additional information. Please be sure to report these characters in-game as well so that we can investigate.
Well its not a question of investigating to be honest but more a question of how on earth is the server NOT checking that people are porting from one place to another in a second? How is teleporting possible at the client level without the server noticing?
Unless this is done on purpose to track early botter and see exploits THEN make workarounds. But if you are unable to fix that before the end of the month you are risking your whole subscription model on this.
Already the no-auction-house-to-combat-gold-sellers was a major pain in the sphincter...if now all nodes are going to become rare and bots rampant then sorry but that s not worth $15 a month
ZOS you have a month to fix this really4 -
Pingu✭
Well its not a question of investigating to be honest but more a question of how on earth is the server NOT checking that people are porting from one place to another in a second? How is teleporting possible at the client level without the server noticing?
Gotta agree with that, makes me extremely worried about safety when playing this game if it is this easy for individuals to literally teleport.. no other MMO is recent history has had such stuff going on.
Makes me question, what else can they do? Teleporting is usually associated with GM Powers for example.
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SMW1980b14a_ESO✭✭✭It happened in WoW years after it came out, people find ways around protection.
Back in EverQuest, there was a program you could download and run that loaded a map of the zone you were in that showed where every creature/player was. It even showed what items a monster had, so you knew which one to kill to get stuff.
It happens again and again, in a lot of the big games.I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭SMW1980b14a_ESO wrote: »Back in EverQuest, there was a program you could download and run that loaded a map of the zone you were in that showed where every creature/player was. It even showed what items a monster had, so you knew which one to kill to get stuff.
Everquest launch: 1999
TES Online launch: 20144 -
atwon23✭✭✭
Gotta agree with that, makes me extremely worried about safety when playing this game if it is this easy for individuals to literally teleport.. no other MMO is recent history has had such stuff going on.
Makes me question, what else can they do? Teleporting is usually associated with GM Powers for example.
Both of you are incorrect in a way. Teleporting bots have been an issue in almost every major mmo in the past few years. GW2 and FF14 have them for sure as Ive seen them myself. As to why this is Im not an expert but there are a ton of so called experts here.http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/22j9od/botting_is_already_a_huge_problem/
Edited by atwon23 on April 9, 2014 6:33AM0 -
The bot I found yesterday was invisible or in a different phase. I knew he was there as his name appeared on my screen. He was mining (I could hear it, but the nodes never vanished) and collecting everything in the area.
I used the interact with player button and reported him as it records the name for you already. It was just made up of random letter as well, so definitely a cheater.0 -
Loxy37✭✭✭✭Can confirm they are back. I suggest if anyone sees this that they use the feedback to report it. Would be great if a Mod could get on the case for us. On the AD side now, I cant find any wood or iron around Auridon and ive just spotted the bot porting from node to node. I play on all factions and seen it a little on others but AD side is just awful to level up professions and I can see many people becoming frustrated.
Please could we get a mod on this.0 -
Etchesketch✭✭✭✭
Out of control in the easy areas.. I have had about 5 nodes in an hour saying it's being used by somebody that isn't there.The number one rule of online gaming is now and has always been, Never play on Patch Day.0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭Flayedalive wrote: »The bot I found yesterday was invisible or in a different phase.
I saw that episode of Star Trek.
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Security of game is not very good if teleport bot are working in first week after release
Its not a matter of game security. Since character movement is controlled client-side, and not authorized by the server(no MMO does this as the data overhead would choke the server), there is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent a hack like this.
The only thing that can be done is detect and ban them as fast as possible.1 -
cheeser123✭✭✭Its not a matter of game security. Since character movement is controlled client-side, and not authorized by the server(no MMO does this as the data overhead would choke the server), there is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent a hack like this.
The only thing that can be done is detect and ban them as fast as possible.
I don't want to sound totally dense here, but don't they write the code for the client and the server....?
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Socratic✭✭✭
I bet you're a farmer.Thread about this on Reddit (with YT vids included)
http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/22isqu/video_teleport_hack/
And yes -this is major issue, Zenimax should fight botter first, folks that transfer gold second -cos they quite often not guilty of breaking the TOS
Security of game is not very good if teleport bot are working in first week after release
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KerinKor✭✭✭✭✭
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They existed pre-release.Brasseurfb16_ESO wrote: »it is very frustrating to see people cheating and use third party programs after 4 days of release.
Sadly this game like so many others seem to have no defenses built in to detect let alone stop pos-hacking. After so many MMO releases one would think the developers in Zenimax would have learned.
/sigh
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cheeser123 wrote: »
I don't want to sound totally dense here, but don't they write the code for the client and the server....?
Any code that is on your own computer/hard drive is fully under your control. You can change it in any way you want, and there is no way anyone could stop you.0 -
Socratic✭✭✭
It's nothing to do with GM powers, quite easily manipulated client side knowing c postfix increment.
Gotta agree with that, makes me extremely worried about safety when playing this game if it is this easy for individuals to literally teleport.. no other MMO is recent history has had such stuff going on.
Makes me question, what else can they do? Teleporting is usually associated with GM Powers for example.1