2h/dw stamina dk pvp 1vX build

xylena

hello cyro forums, a lot of people have asked me about my build... you won't be able to block cast faceroll, but if you're good at reacting quickly and roll dodging a lot, it combines burst physical damage (not unusual to hit over 1k with crit rush or executioner) with sustain that rivals magic builds... no i don't have videos, that is way too much work :P

armor - 4pcs whitestrake (small pcs with impen), 3pcs seducer (large pcs with infused) - full leather, all stamina enchants... more impen never hurts

jewelry - 3pcs shadow walker - 1 health regen enchant, 2 stam regen enchants... my regens are 119m 93h 138s on my dw bar with purge slotted

weps - 2h maul whitestrake (weighted, crusher enchant), dw daggers seducer (weighted, fire or disease enchants) - damage is a little over 200 on both

attributes - with some purple food, dump into stamina until it's soft capped, then put the rest into health... i'm a nord so my max stats come out to 1500m 2900h 2400s but you would get more numbers out of imperial or orc or redguard

2h skills - executioner, crit rush, maneuvers, igneous shield, rally, flawless dbreaker ultimate
dw skills - steel tornado, flying blade, purge, reflect, ash cloud, shifting standard ultimate

how it works - use the dw bar to activate seducer set for ranged combat and aoe for cutting down groups, use the 2h bar for single target burst... igneous shield restores 120 stamina each cast and increases the power of the rally heal, so i don't even need dragon blood it would just waste limited magic... since there are no powerful stamina management sets akin to warlock or syrabane, weaving in heavy attacks and chugging stam pots is a must!

Cody

I have seen xylene in battle: I can attest to her skill.

DezIsDead

Xylena is also really good at getting meat bags down and using it prior to pushing in solo. Also pretty good at kiting them back to more favorable conditions. Props on that

Grim13

Interesting. Makes me want to try Medium Armour on my DK now...

IxSTALKERxI

Xylena OP.

Seriously though, you should get your build featured on ESO's 'Battlemaster's Corner' thingy ma bob. It's a fairly unique build that I haven't seen really anyone else use (no cookie cutter flavor of month stuff) and you annihilate everyone with it.

s7732425ub17_ESO

Video or it didn't happen.

Lhorion

What do you do against a perma blocking S&B DK spamming unstable flame, engulfing flames and whip?
Don't misunderstand me, this is not a flame. But i am interested in builds like your build and a friend of mine is testing such a build, too. I just wonder how to counter a build that can do good damage over a long time while blocking.

xylena

aww you all are too nice (except that one potato with the numbers name)... against perma block ubertank dks i eat their damage with a lot of igneous shield and rally, cut their stam down with dw heavy attacks weaved with tornado or flying blade, roll out of the whip spam and into a crit rush / 2h heavy / executioner combo, and keep chugging pots... those heavy attacks are the key, since they restore my stamina and take chunks out of the opponent's stam each block...

in duels i like to swap dw for 1h/s for the reverb bash heal debuff (which goes through block thankfully something to counter op blocking) and shielded assault cc, replace talons with eruption (ash cloud morph) for a little more earthen heart stam restore and the opponent miss chance

Rylana

Xylena is literally the only DK on the battlefield mine worries about. The difference is palpable. When Xylena is in the group, I am neutralized, completely. When they are not, I run wild with no one to stop me (besides the usual dogpile on the DK and wear me down with sheer numbers bit)

That 2h/DW DK killer build is real. Damn real. If youre a magicka specced DK you stand virtually no chance vs this build, purely because no matter what you do, you will run out of stam first, and once that happens it is over.

Tankqull

does rally heal that much to 1vsX actually?

Lhorion

Sounds interesting, i just cannot imagine.
Unfortunately i am an EU player

Cause... A good Magica DK could answer: I block his damage with 130 stamreg (+DK passive) and spam until his limited Magica is out. If he is swinging heavy attacks that means not having the huge damage reduction from blocking. Whip will hit hard and CC will go through.

Koensol

@Lhorion How I usually deal with such DKs on my templar (magicka spec resto/1hs) is rotate blocking with blazing shield for defense, to spread out the resource strain, and try to keep up radiant aura at all times. Cleanse his dots when needed with purifying ritual and deal damage to him with blazing spear (handy for when hes blocking), vampires bane and puncturing sweep. Whenever I can I stun the DK with invasion. And I always have my heals to drop back on. I never gank or kill fast due to being a templar, so I have to wear them out and unload at the correct time.

They are still a challenge, although I have to say I do not encounter these sorts of builds very often. The DKs I love the most are the ones that spam whip and root me with talons in their standard. If this happens I'll gladly stay put and let the DK kill himself on my blazing shield.

Lhorion

@Koensol‌
Thx for the many words
Fights against good templar can be very Fun! But in my last post i ment how the thread's build can deal with it.

Araxleon

Xylena OP

filmoretub17_ESO

I heard she is 10 feet tall and shoots lightning bolts out of her eyes.

Eglath

filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »

I heard she is 10 feet tall and shoots lightning bolts out of her eyes.

Still shorter than my Altmer And not lightining but Flying Blades.

On serious note, she's really good, I usually have only minor issues with stam builds, till I encountered her. Good build with amazing skill equals deadly.

Soris

Lhorion wrote: »

Sounds interesting, i just cannot imagine.
Unfortunately i am an EU player

Cause... A good Magica DK could answer: I block his damage with 130 stamreg (+DK passive) and spam until his limited Magica is out. If he is swinging heavy attacks that means not having the huge damage reduction from blocking. Whip will hit hard and CC will go through.

I cannot imagine either.
Sadly but you couldn't be more true. Stamina builds in general vs perma block DKs, are useless and pointless and not even funny to face with one of them. But that's because of a broken mechanic or stupid mechanic whatever you say "block casting" Once they get rid of that, it will be much less exhausting for us to do some actual damage instead of weaving light and heavy attacks to drain his stamina for 10 minutes long.

Sure you can still kill a well played dk with a 2h weapon if his stamina is out and if you managed to survive ofc, but that's not possible anymore since they "discovered" a way for endless stamina.

What I usually do when I see a this type of dk, I just spam my blazing shiled over his whips and some wrecking blows in case he forget blocking, until he kills himself by my shield or until he just leaves me alone. That's boring fight ever.
(not sure if this last sentence is grammatically correct )

diskiukas

She hits like a train, whenever I can, I run away.

Xsorus

faernaa wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

Sounds interesting, i just cannot imagine.
Unfortunately i am an EU player

Cause... A good Magica DK could answer: I block his damage with 130 stamreg (+DK passive) and spam until his limited Magica is out. If he is swinging heavy attacks that means not having the huge damage reduction from blocking. Whip will hit hard and CC will go through.

I cannot imagine either.
Sadly but you couldn't be more true. Stamina builds in general vs perma block DKs, are useless and pointless and not even funny to face with one of them. But that's because of a broken mechanic or stupid mechanic whatever you say "block casting" Once they get rid of that, it will be much less exhausting for us to do some actual damage instead of weaving light and heavy attacks to drain his stamina for 10 minutes long.

Sure you can still kill a well played dk with a 2h weapon if his stamina is out and if you managed to survive ofc, but that's not possible anymore since they "discovered" a way for endless stamina.

What I usually do when I see a this type of dk, I just spam my blazing shiled over his whips and some wrecking blows in case he forget blocking, until he kills himself by my shield or until he just leaves me alone. That's boring fight ever.
(not sure if this last sentence is grammatically correct )

heh, I'm a stamina DK, and I kill Magicka Perma Block DK's all day long in 1v1.

Warraxx

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

faernaa wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

Sounds interesting, i just cannot imagine.
Unfortunately i am an EU player

Cause... A good Magica DK could answer: I block his damage with 130 stamreg (+DK passive) and spam until his limited Magica is out. If he is swinging heavy attacks that means not having the huge damage reduction from blocking. Whip will hit hard and CC will go through.

I cannot imagine either.
Sadly but you couldn't be more true. Stamina builds in general vs perma block DKs, are useless and pointless and not even funny to face with one of them. But that's because of a broken mechanic or stupid mechanic whatever you say "block casting" Once they get rid of that, it will be much less exhausting for us to do some actual damage instead of weaving light and heavy attacks to drain his stamina for 10 minutes long.

Sure you can still kill a well played dk with a 2h weapon if his stamina is out and if you managed to survive ofc, but that's not possible anymore since they "discovered" a way for endless stamina.

What I usually do when I see a this type of dk, I just spam my blazing shiled over his whips and some wrecking blows in case he forget blocking, until he kills himself by my shield or until he just leaves me alone. That's boring fight ever.
(not sure if this last sentence is grammatically correct )

heh, I'm a stamina DK, and I kill Magicka Perma Block DK's all day long in 1v1.

same here. the key is to drain their stamina then go full bore.
Glad to see other melee stamina builds. XOXO

Orc DK 1500 mag, 3300 health 2500 stam - shadow mundus
2H - 5p med Whitestrakes, 5p ravager
Crit rush, stone giant, carve, executioner, rally, Flawless DB

S&B - 5p med Whitestrakes, 5p ravager, 2p seducer
shielded assault, choking talons, cripple, refl scales, Gr dragonblood, take flight

frozywozy

I am glad to be EP

Xylena the warrior princess would probably kill me all day!

Good guide! I fully support her playstyle. Especially the part about dropping sieges (meatbag or fire balista) to initiate a fight. I do that all the time even if I will fire it only once and let it there to despawn or for others to use it, it is still worth the damage before a push.

Lhorion

Sure there are some stamina DKs killing some magica DKs.

There are some V1 that kill some V14, too.

NukeAllTheThings

I really want to see these stamina DK's in action because I am very intrigued by the playstyle. The more variety and options out there the better.

Warraxx

I think a stamina melee Templar would be really good too... if i ever get around to leveling that toon up, i'll post the build.

xylena

the original inspiration for my build came from vencenzo's 2h/dw stam templar build... if zos ever lets us keep our pvp assault/support rank between characters i'm totally making this same build in templar form! but not if it's going to take me 3 months to get back to assault/support 10

any decent player on a perma block cast build is tough to beat, but yes with enough patience and wep crit health/stam panaceas, they go down because my primary defensive ability (igneous shield) keeps restoring my stamina while i attack relentlessly... limiting enemy movement with ash cloud or talons keeps me out of whip range and sets up big crit rush combos... i rarely block, with the rally HoT and soft capped health regen, i'll barely notice if i take a few whips to the face here and there :P

xylena

and what dez said about setting up meatwad siege before rushing into a group, that's the key to true 1vX situations, otherwise a single templar healer among them makes killing even the squishiest bowtato nearly mathematically impossible... pointing a fire ballista directly at the ground is fun too, not nearly as strong as ground oil (RIP) was but it works for point-blank aoe in a pinch if you can set it down without being cc'ed or crushing shocked...

SurprisedFour91

Xylena is one of best DKs out there, seriously i fight with her almost everyday and she is OP, im glad to be apart of her guild and fight beside her, and i am anxious to try her build sadly that will take some time as my DK isn't ready yet

Pchela

Xylena is a wonderful DK, I've fought along side her many times, she's also a great pvp'er in general as far as motivating the Pact and teaching them

Rylana

xylena wrote: »

and what dez said about setting up meatwad siege before rushing into a group, that's the key to true 1vX situations, otherwise a single templar healer among them makes killing even the squishiest bowtato nearly mathematically impossible... pointing a fire ballista directly at the ground is fun too, not nearly as strong as ground oil (RIP) was but it works for point-blank aoe in a pinch if you can set it down without being cc'ed or crushing shocked...

Thats actually one of my favorite moves. You might have seen me use it on your comrades from time to time, ill drop a fire ballista, fire it into the fray once, and charge in after. Gives me a nice jumpstart on resource pools when I zerg dive. (and it usually gives me just enough ultimate for an early resource refresh)

xylena

thanks for the kind words all, hope to see more people trying different builds in general in cyro, perma block cast is the most "optimal" in most cases but it's not the only viable build and no way it's nearly as much fun as bouncing and charging all over the place with a hammer

Mauz

so you don't you block? otherwise you would run out of stamina before your magic 1hS opponents do. how do you manage not to get permanently cc'd? as soon as I don't see the swirl around the feet I cc.

I tried such a build for my nb but it was only useful in certain situations, when I started to block any sorc drained my stamina down in 1-2s (this might have been a bug cause it dropped more or less to 0 in an instant), if not I was permanently stunned, when sneak attacked with snipe I couldn't do much. With magicka build I don't even need to take care about such things.