Netches count as amorphous foes and they're quick and easy to find in Stonefalls (between Davin's Watch wayshrine which everyone has on their map) and the Bal Foyen gate and Bal Foyen itself, no need to travel anywhere fancy.

When it says kill with scribed skill it doesn't mean that's the only skill you can use. My healer was getting kills for using trample through trash packs in a trial. Just touch enemies with your skill and mow them down with your usual damage skills.

Sturmfaenger wrote: »

Just don't to them. Don't make yourself a slave to them, the world won't stop turning if you have a few bonus points less.
You decide what to to with your lifetime.

We are aware doing the endeavors is optional. That's not some amazing unique insight only those not doing them possess.

I don’t know about OP, but I choose to do them because I’m only inches away from getting the Duskfall Welwa, a mount I really like that will disappear from the store in 4 days. So yes, missing out on that because of 1 or 2 missed endeavors would be a bummer.

This being my own choice doesn’t mean I can’t post “well, that took more time then I liked” on the forum.

It also doesn’t mean I’m ‘a slave to endeavors’, think ‘the world will stop turning’, or am unable to ‘decide what I do with my lifetime’. Those are unnecessarily dramatic straw man arguments, and frankly, I find them somewhat insulting.

Ishtarknows wrote: »

Netches count as amorphous foes and they're quick and easy to find in Stonefalls (between Davin's Watch wayshrine which everyone has on their map) and the Bal Foyen gate and Bal Foyen itself, no need to travel anywhere fancy.

When it says kill with scribed skill it doesn't mean that's the only skill you can use. My healer was getting kills for using trample through trash packs in a trial. Just touch enemies with your skill and mow them down with your usual damage skills.

Are you sure? I had to kill far over 40 foes for the endeavor to complete. Though that could also be because Mirri was finishing off a great deal of them.

(Also, netches are just too cute, at least for me. I'll gladly walk the extra distance to get voriplasms instead.)

dear lord

I am at the point of not bothering with endeavors I find annoying. I see little of interest for sale on the endeavor shop so they are just building up through endeavors that complete due to my doing things I would be doing anyway.

I don't understand why some people want to get everything in an instant .

Certainly, those dailies are *Time-consuming Daily Endeavours* IF(!) you are a new player and or have not done the stuff you need to get them done in 15-30min tops.

But what you all seem to forget. Those quests/enceavours aren't for the *NEW* players or the *NEW ACCOUNT* people. They are for the *have been playing for some time* folks.

Endeavours are forcused on two things - 1) give players a way to earn a currency to get some stuff just by playing the game and 2) give players, who are already leveled, a reason to log into the game and do some stuff, when they reached the end-game (leveled their chars, got SPs and CPs, got motifs & receipts, etc.).

And btw.. If the endeavours are too time consuming to do, especially for 15 endeavours (!!!), I wouldn't do them. Just skip, ignore them. Its less than 100 endeavour marks you loose.

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

I don't understand why some people want to get everything in an instant .

Again, misrepresentation of the other parties opinions. No-one said they wanted everything in an instant.

If you can't leave someone's post that they've spend over 4 hours doing dailies, and they thought that was a bit much, for what it is and move on, at least please respond to the statements we actually made. "I want everything right now" is not one of them.

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

ICertainly, those dailies are *Time-consuming Daily Endeavours* IF(!) you are a new player and or have not done the stuff you need to get them done in 15-30min tops.

But what you all seem to forget. Those quests/enceavours aren't for the *NEW* players or the *NEW ACCOUNT* people. They are for the *have been playing for some time* folks. .

Says who? Why are endeavors not for new players, or players on new accounts? That's not 'something we all seem to forget', that's something you made up. If anything, I have less need of seals on my older EU account, since I already collected most of the mounts, costumes, and so on I want over there.

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

Endeavours are forcused on two things - 1) give players a way to earn a currency to get some stuff just by playing the game and 2) give players, who are already leveled, a reason to log into the game and do some stuff, when they reached the end-game (leveled their chars, got SPs and CPs, got motifs & receipts, etc.).

And btw.. If the endeavours are too time consuming to do, especially for 15 endeavours (!!!), I wouldn't do them. Just skip, ignore them. Its less than 100 endeavour marks you loose.

Oh wow, skipping endeavors! What a delightfully novel suggestion! It's not as if I already answered this extensively in post 3 of this page.

Sorry for getting sarcastic, I don’t mean to harp on you specifically, but as you can see, by this point, you’re far from the first to come up with this idea. This tip gets posted dozens of times in every thread where someone dares to express anything other than ecstatic endorsement of the endeavors.

Yes, they’re optional. We know. The whole game, not to mention our whole life, is optional. Doesn’t mean I can’t point out some of the aspects I’m a little less satisfied with while enjoying them as a whole.

Besides, there is a difference between "too time consuming to do" and "more time consuming than I'd like/ had planned for". For me, yesterdays endeavors were an example of the latter, not the first.

Gingaroth wrote: »

Ishtarknows wrote: »

Netches count as amorphous foes and they're quick and easy to find in Stonefalls (between Davin's Watch wayshrine which everyone has on their map) and the Bal Foyen gate and Bal Foyen itself, no need to travel anywhere fancy.

When it says kill with scribed skill it doesn't mean that's the only skill you can use. My healer was getting kills for using trample through trash packs in a trial. Just touch enemies with your skill and mow them down with your usual damage skills.

Are you sure? I had to kill far over 40 foes for the endeavor to complete. Though that could also be because Mirri was finishing off a great deal of them.

(Also, netches are just too cute, at least for me. I'll gladly walk the extra distance to get voriplasms instead.)

When the endeavor is to kill a certain number of whatevers I put my companion away until done. Goes much quicker.

I did 2, the amorphous foes and the master writ. I didn’t want to take the time to do any others. Not a big deal. I already did the weekly one, that’s the main thing.

Calastir wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Gingaroth wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

1 alchemy master writ, and about 15 minutes in Orcrest will knock out 3 of those endeavors jiffy spiffy.

Only if you already have an alchemy master writ and an offensive scibed skill in the first place.

On My EU account I was done in about half an hour, most of which was spend on waiting for blobs to respawn in the overcrowded Tsofeer Cavern, and doing 2 delve quest along the way.

On my much newer NA account it took significantly longer: about 4 hours.

I had no alchemy master writs left there, just 2 provisioning ones; 1 for Senche-Tiger Single Malt and one for Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. My fledgling master crafter had neither recipe. First I tried to buy the one for Malt.<snip>

Alchemy writs are cheap on the traders. If you're already combing the traders for a recipe, just get an alchemy writ instead. Probably cheaper anyway.

As for an offensive scribe skill.. you get one free just for completing the first quest in the scribing questline (and a second one when you complete it).

And all those prerequisites take time. It seems hard for some people to remember back when they first started, way before they maxxed out all their skills how long and difficult the game used to be. And understand how that's still the case for others.

You're confusing what is required from the eandeavour and what you actually can do in the game.
The endeavour doesn't say "complete the scribing questline", that would be a Golden Pursuit from last July. The endeavour just says "kill enemies with a scribed skill", therefore it doesn't take much time and again, DenverRalphy is right.

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Weeklies are all that I'd worry about. Most dailies are trivial to complete for me. With the stackable writs and traits research done I have hundreds to spare until another xp event.

Don't be afraid of cyrodiil, repair and DMG go fast with sieged even for PvE. But missing 10-15 endeavors isn't a biggie.