I am frustrated with Scribing and Subclassing

SilverBride · July 8

I have read speculations that ESO is moving toward maintenance mode. I don't know if it is or isn't but this made me consider my own gaming experience, and I am definitely going into maintenance mode.

I am not going to move forward with scribing and subclassing and other changes I have no desire to take part in. And at this point in time I am not purchasing any new content, either. I won't say I never will but for now I'm not.

I will instead play as though these other things do not exist, and will maintain my game this way for an indefinite period.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · July 8

And what exactly is your problem with ESO?

Is it the combat? then stop following Meta builds

Meta might as well stand for "Soon to be nerfed"

danko355 · July 8

Thank you for this critical update. Appreciate the official announcement. Good luck in your future endeavors and don’t forget to keep posting your updates!

SilverBride · July 8

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

And what exactly is your problem with ESO?

Is it the combat? then stop following Meta builds

Meta might as well stand for "Soon to be nerfed"

I've never chased Meta and never will.

SilverBride · July 8

danko355 wrote: »

Thank you for this critical update. Appreciate the official announcement. Good luck in your future endeavors and don’t forget to keep posting your updates!

Thank you, I will.

NoticeMeArkay · July 8

Flew right past their head.

SilverBride · July 8

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Flew right past their head.

My head? No, I got it.

Dock01 · July 8

same here though I’ve done all the new updates and did the subclasses, and I love them all . But I’m just playing less now. Everything feels stale, especially for a game where you have to pay for everything.

I think I've outgrown ESO. My high school self would've been crushed to hear me say that, but the content just isn’t worth the price. The Crown Store feels like a complete ripoff. I can afford it, very easily, but when other games give you way more for way less, buying anything here just makes me feel like a sucker.

ESO needs to wake up and start looking at what the competition’s doing lol

Soarora · July 8

Subclassing I think was the final nail in the coffin of me actually wanting to play the game. Sure, I still do, but not for any desire to actually play it. I think the only thing that keeps me here at this point is my desire to support the growth of a dungeon community.

SilverBride · July 8

Scribing was the first nail, but yea subclassing was the final nail for me, too.

Rungar · July 8

seems like changing anything at all is a nail in the coffin for some of you folk. lol. hard way to be when everything is constantly changing!

SilverBride · July 8

11 years of changes have never made me feel like I do with the direction things have been taking these past 2 years.

FullMax · July 8

SilverBride wrote: »

11 years of changes have never made me feel like I do with the direction things have been taking these past 2 years.

So what's so terrible that's happened in the last two years, besides the subclass system?

SilverBride · July 8

FullMax wrote: »

So what's so terrible that's happened in the last two years, besides the subclass system?

I have zero interest in scribing, but at least that hasn't hurt my characters if I choose not to use it.

Subclassing, on the other hand, has destroyed class identity and weakened my pure class characters.

Plus other changes, such as losing value with ESO+, and locking new dungeons with plates so they are not soloable.

But subclassing by far is the worst.

scrappy1342 · July 8

SilverBride wrote: »

I am definitely going into maintenance mode.

same here. for me it was when they announced the new plans with the season pass back in april. i have never agreed with the pricing. it was always the same price as expacs for other bigger mmos, except for those, it is every other year while eso gives a fraction of the content and the cost is every year. so i would wait for them to do the holiday event for the zone. if they gave away a house, i would buy it for half off. if not... i waited for it to go to eso plus.

well now they are charging more for even less content.

the things with pvp and subclassing/scribing don't directly affect me. but they have chased away so many players. and along with other changes they have made the past couple years it has really killed the economy. i used to have a lot of fun gathering things and listing them on the trader. but it's just not worth it anymore. my trade guild isn't even a trade guild anymore. was with them for years and they had always had a great trader. it got to the point where it made no sense anymore to keep a trader, so they don't.

FullMax · July 8

SilverBride wrote: »

FullMax wrote: »

So what's so terrible that's happened in the last two years, besides the subclass system?

I have zero interest in scribing, but at least that hasn't hurt my characters if I choose not to use it.

Subclassing, on the other hand, has destroyed class identity and weakened my pure class characters.

Plus other changes, such as losing value with ESO+, and locking new dungeons with plates so they are not soloable.

But subclassing by far is the worst.

Well, I don't know. In the previous three parts of the game series, we could be multiclass. It's strange that we couldn't do it earlier.
If by class identity you mean balance, then I think it will be fixed.
In the future, multiclass will not be as profitable as it is now. It just came out. Nerfs are still ahead.

I tried to create my own multiclass build, but it seemed to me that I only became weaker)
It seems to me that a pure class is still stronger.

SilverBride · July 8

FullMax wrote: »

Well, I don't know. In the previous three parts of the game series, we could be multiclass. It's strange that we couldn't do it earlier.
If by class identity you mean balance, then I think it will be fixed.
In the future, multiclass will not be as profitable as it is now. It just came out. Nerfs are still ahead.

I tried to create my own multiclass build, but it seemed to me that I only became weaker)
It seems to me that a pure class is still stronger.

By class idenity I mean that only a Sorcerer should be able to use Sorcerer skill lines, etc..

FullMax · July 8

SilverBride wrote: »

FullMax wrote: »

So what's so terrible that's happened in the last two years, besides the subclass system?

I have zero interest in scribing, but at least that hasn't hurt my characters if I choose not to use it.

Subclassing, on the other hand, has destroyed class identity and weakened my pure class characters.

Plus other changes, such as losing value with ESO+, and locking new dungeons with plates so they are not soloable.

But subclassing by far is the worst.

And about the dungeons... Now we need to vote to add a story mode or something like that) I also don't really like that I can't go through some dungeons alone.

SilverBride · July 8

FullMax wrote: »

And about the dungeons... Now we need to vote to add a story mode or something like that) I also don't really like that I can't go through some dungeons alone.

Somewhere in the past they said that we may get a story mode, but it will be a long time before it would be implemented.

the90thmeridian · July 8

meh - game is still fun even though i kind of suck as a dps now ...

Cooperharley · July 8

Ok

Cooperharley · July 8

Dock01 wrote: »

same here though I’ve done all the new updates and did the subclasses, and I love them all . But I’m just playing less now. Everything feels stale, especially for a game where you have to pay for everything.

I think I've outgrown ESO. My high school self would've been crushed to hear me say that, but the content just isn’t worth the price. The Crown Store feels like a complete ripoff. I can afford it, very easily, but when other games give you way more for way less, buying anything here just makes me feel like a sucker.

ESO needs to wake up and start looking at what the competition’s doing lol

This is what Blizzard used to do when they first released WoW back in the good ole days. They’d take what somebody else was doing and do it better.

ZOS needs to adopt this. See what the most successful MMOs are doing, put the ESO charm and spin on it, and do it better

kevkj · July 8

I prefer really not to speak. If I speak, I am in big trouble. In big trouble, and I don't want to be in big trouble.

ZOS_GregoryV · July 8

Greetings,

Upon review of this thread, we have made an adjustment to the title as we feel it is more suitable for the initial discussion.

Regards,
-Greg-

colossalvoids · July 8

Since when mods started to interpret topic names into something they feel more appropriate without saving a single original word...?

SilverBride · July 8

The original title reflected how I chose to deal with changes I was not happy with, which was the main point I was tr;ying to make.

TheMajority · July 8

oh no! don't give up on ESO it can be great again if they listen to feedbacks

ZOS_GregoryV · July 8

Hey all,

As the OP has reached out, per their request, we have closed this thread.

Thank you for your understanding!
-Greg-