I want the prices to plummet on PC too. Send the bots to the PC servers when they are finished. It'll be a buyer's market.

DISCLAIMER: Just thought I'd better add that I want cheap things to buy and don't condone bots or any breaking of the TOS.

I don't think anyone is going to sort the bot problem. I can only realistically suggest you hoard your materials until the prices go up ( only likely if they manage to get rid of the bots) or stop collecting them. It's like clockwork watches. They'll never ever sell at their original levels due to digitalisation.

This is much the same on PlayStation. When we get an endeavour which is farm x resources, either any resources, wood or cloth or alchemy, no trouble at all. If we get farm x ore nodes, forget about the starter zones which used to be the obvious choice. There will be armies of level 3-4 characters either parked beside them or running very short loops based on spawn timers, with stupid two word hyphenated name accounts in the same format and a character called xhjjshggdtv or whatever.

Have them come to PC-NA and drop these wacktastic prices

Like I said, wacktastic pricing. We need a good bot infestation right about now lol.

Jpk0012 wrote: »

etchedpixels wrote: »

Jpk0012 wrote: »

Mesite wrote: »

I want the prices to plummet on PC too. Send the bots to the PC servers when they are finished. It'll be a buyer's market.

DISCLAIMER: Just thought I'd better add that I want cheap things to buy and don't condone bots or any breaking of the TOS.

If prices are high on the PC why not take advantage and sell that stuff yourself?

Because on PC we have hyperinflation instead so those platings I've hoarded keep doubling in value.

Better than the alternative? At least, they aren't at prices that invalidated your work due to cheaters. I gotta admit a little surprised PC is now pro-bot. It wasn't that way when PC had bots.

I don't think it's PC players that are pro bot. If you're generally a buyer of mats, I could see you being pro bot as it lowers the price you have to pay for the materials. If you generally farm and sell materials, you'd be more likely to be against bots as it affects how much you can sell your items for. This is just a generalization of course and isn't to say everyone is like that, but just because you're seeing a few PC players in this thread that would appreciate lower buy prices, doesn't mean that most PC players are in favor of botting.

What I'm saying is the divide is between buyers/sellers and not so much based on platform.

This is proof that price inflation on PC is related to when they got bots under control. I don't support bots, but wanted to point out the conspiracys with traders was incorrect

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

This is proof that price inflation on PC is related to when they got bots under control. I don't support bots, but wanted to point out the conspiracys with traders was incorrect

Do they have the bots under control on PC?

Illegal gold is cheaper on PC than on Consoles.

Sometimes I wonder if they are actually bots on Xbox. They seem to move more than absolutely necessary. I wonder if somewhere there's a warehouse overseas and people running multiple Xboxes. I think that if every Xbox has a copy of the game, it might not even be against the TOS.

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

P.S console people we aren't pro bot...we are just jealous of your prices

This. No way do I want bots, I just want our prices back to normal.

Xbox live is needed for gamers to play on console.... however ESO is included in game pass. This means that for $15 a month a person running bots can create a new account as soon as one is banned. There is no penalty for using bots on the console, unlike on pc where the person would need to buy a new copy of the game for every ban. On top of that every new bot account created add to the overall "20 million players". The 20 million players is not the number of players active in the game, but rather the number accounts that are registered on the game. This is not a conspiracy, it is a simple fact. So technically every new bot account created adds to the over all registered player count. I have yet to see a stats posted directly from the developers based on the number of accounts out of the 20m that are banned, or inactive.

What I can extrapolate is that if you assume an even number of players on all systems, and you assume 21m by the end of the year, that means there are about 7m accounts on xbox alone. From the xbox achievement percentages, you can see that only 51% unlocked the main quest chapter 1 achievement, but only 26% of the players unlocked the achievement for completing main quest chapter 1.5. So immediately 74% of the accounts out of the 7m have not gone back to the harborage after getting out of the tutorial. Now looking at champion points, there is an achievement for applying a single champion point. Only 6.5% if the players on console have unlocked this achievement. Out of the 7m players assumed on console only 455,000 have done this. Then you can look at something like the achievement of learning all the basic blue styles, and you realize that only 2.85% of the players have unlocked that achievement. So now we are down to less 200k players that have learned the blue motif books, which you can find for under 1000g total. Looking at rare styles that number is even lower at 52,500 accounts that have learned the Ancient elf, Daedric, primal, Imperial, and barbaric styles... which is a good approximation of the number of actual players that regularly play.

That "20m players" is nothing but a hyper inflated marketing number, which unfortunately fails to actually represent the actual community of players engaging with the game. It would be like nbc boasting that the Olympics this past year had 7.9 billion athletes since that is the current population of earth. Although technically it is true that there are almost 8b registered humans on earth, it is no where near the number of actual athletes competing in the Olympics. Sadly bots boost numbers, and that is the truth.