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Is it safe to pvp again?
Larcomar
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or at least fun... Opinions on the pts about the DC changes were not positive when I asked - basically, you were likely to take less damage but probably spend just as much time (ie most of a session) getting pulled in, breaking free, roll dodging out yadiyadiya. That said, from what I gather, Cyro isn't that heavily populated on pts. Are we seeing any signs that there's less DC spam around. Or are all the try hards still droping it wherever they can? Yes, I know, it's "easy to avoid" - unless there's a load of lag - and you're not going to die from it. But it's just... so... tedious...
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Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If not, there’s Ravenwatch!
But I’ve not yet tried any PVP since the update as I intend to review my builds first. From the patch notes, to me it still sounds like like something that should be an ultimate or something an not an armor proc. We shall see… 2 -
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✭It'll never be safe, but definitely safer. I've been dragged into Dark Convergences that would have killed me prior to the patch, but without the second pull it's very easy to avoid the center.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Burn/Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Heal- Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Rebirthment✭✭✭✭have used it myself post patch and honestly ill say the damage is definitely lower now than it was pre patch, you now need much more people to be in its tiny 3m radius for it to really go off, instead of only like 3 people or so.
feels better to counter it now than before. The pull is still annoying but at least now you no longer have to stand still and block for ages or be pulled outside its radius.
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MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭Rebirthment wrote: »have used it myself post patch and honestly ill say the damage is definitely lower now than it was pre patch, you now need much more people to be in its tiny 3m radius for it to really go off, instead of only like 3 people or so.
feels better to counter it now than before. The pull is still annoying but at least now you no longer have to stand still and block for ages or be pulled outside its radius.
Can you be pulled multiple times by different players who are using DC? If so, than a group running 3-4 sets could still hurt smaller groups.
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✭Araneae6537 wrote: »If not, there’s Ravenwatch! But I’ve not yet tried any PVP since the update as I intend to review my builds first. From the patch notes, to me it still sounds like like something that should be an ultimate or something an not an armor proc. We shall see…
Ravenwatch is so much more fun anyway - it's about skill, positioning and numbers not who has 3000 CP and ground a mythic for 3 months.
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MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭etchedpixels wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »If not, there’s Ravenwatch! But I’ve not yet tried any PVP since the update as I intend to review my builds first. From the patch notes, to me it still sounds like like something that should be an ultimate or something an not an armor proc. We shall see…
Ravenwatch is so much more fun anyway - it's about skill, positioning and numbers not who has 3000 CP and ground a mythic for 3 months.
About once or twice during a big battle in GH do I see DC proc or similar sets. Typically it is other sets I do see. And when I do see DC it is from a ball group running around and pulling players into one area to wipe them out. The ball group typically comes along and defends keep or attacks outpost simply to pull players away from what we are doing such as sieging a fort.
For instance, one ball group was simply running around an outpost and didn't even seem to want to take it over. They simply were using DC to pull some players together to kill them. That isn't PVP it simply boring and not fun or engaging. For me fun is 1v1 or 1v2 but not 12 v 3 or 12v2 or 12v1. Which is how most ball groups from my experience work; similar to zerg groups. Zerg groups a bit easier to dispatch because they simply pick ups that are running together and have little to no coordination of sets etc.. but when you have 2 or 3 zerg groups than it becomes a problem.
RavenWatch is boring, barely anyone in there from my experience. That's at least on the US PS server.1 -
Larcomar✭✭✭✭✭I did stick my nose in a couple of times. DC seems much less effective at killing people - I've now deconned the one set I had - but sadly, quite a few people don't seem to have gotten the memo. Still quite a bit of it around and just as odious. It's basically a straightforward troll now rather than a threat, but god is it annoying to play against. Zero fun...
As to Ravenwatch errr... no thanks. I'm not anti the idea - we need to get new people into pvp and a newbie server where they're not going to get annihilated in 3 seconds flat by people rocking 2000 cp and the latest proc sets isn't a bad idea. But I kind of feel I did my time there. And god is it boring now...
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techyeshic✭✭✭✭✭It got better at first but I think there is something going on with it that I've seen a lot of repeated break free animations from myself and others with other effects timed right on top of it. Don't know if people figured out how to do something, or just lag. Lag has been much worse this weekEdited by techyeshic on November 11, 2021 11:38AM0
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McTaterskins✭✭✭✭techyeshic wrote: »It got better at first but I think there is something going on with it that I've seen a lot of repeated break free animations from myself and others with other effects timed right on top of it. Don't know if people figured out how to do something, or just lag. Lag has been much worse this week
Lag has been crazy this past week. More so than normal.
I've been seeing desync in BG and IC even. With slide shows etc. - With 473 down and 23 up internet speed. Hard wired.0 -
Larcomar✭✭✭✭✭OK, I think this thread has run it's course. While it's fun to demand zos nerf dks, templars, necros and what, sorcs next, it's a littl eoff topic and the questions been answered.
Mods - You may as well close before someone decides they want to nerf sorcs. Or wardens. Or stamblades....0 -
ZOS_IcymodGreetings,
We would like to remind everyone to please keep conversations constructive and relevant to the forum topic. With that being said, we are going to go ahead and close this thread as per the request of the OP.
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