You are amazing balance team! shadowstrike cp passive is awesome!

francesinhalover · May 2021

The new blade of woe cp passive shadowstrike (costs 75 and is slottable) is amazing. For us role players, we can finally kill more than one enemy without being detected. we can finally do actual assassination on delves.
From killing 3 enemy's, granted the 3rd one might jump and do aoe , to being able to be a better thief , this passive point is amazing.
And with this, i'm here begging , please don't remove this shadowstrike cp passive... if you do need to, please add it to the dark brotherhood skill line. We roleplayers need this cp passive it is amazing and helps us feel complete. it's just sad that it requires so much points and is so far away from some other really good passives.

With that being said, i'm sorry but id like to suggest here, if the Vampire passive Dark Stalker could be slightly changed.
currently it does "Ignore the Movement Speed penalty of Sneak. Decreases the time it takes to enter Sneak by 50%" it would be amazing if the first point just removed 50% of the stealth movement speed penalty, and the second fully ignored the movement speed. Some of us don't like losing fully the stealth walking animation.

with this being said , i can't stop but thank you zos for this amazing cp passive. and i can't wait to buy dark brotherhood dlc and any future stealth dlc's

ResidentContrarian · May 2021

I might be the contrarian here for saying this, but I think the old one that gave invisibility on killing with heavy attacks was better for PvE and PvP.

But it's great someone liked that functionality vanishing from the old CP system.

francesinhalover · May 2021

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

I might be the contrarian here for saying this, but I think the old one that gave invisibility on killing with heavy attacks was better for PvE and PvP.

But it's great someone liked that functionality vanishing from the old CP system.

didn't know that existed in the past, but it looks op tbh if you could use it on pvp , especially with a vampire ,:D personaly i'm insannely happy it was reworked then

id be happier if both existed

Anyron · May 2021

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

JanTanhide · May 2021

Now you've gone and done it. You like what they did and you made it useful and fun. Incoming nerf coming!

francesinhalover · May 2021

JanTanhide wrote: »

Now you've gone and done it. You like what they did and you made it useful and fun. Incoming nerf coming!

hope they wait until i finish the story modes

ill quit once they remove it , but i'm enjoying being a assassin so much
delves are so much fun now, and open world content too! but yeah ill be honest just killing enemies with a aoe is 4x faster... especialy if you stealth without a vampire

francesinhalover · May 2021

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however

i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Ekzorka · May 2021

francesinhalover wrote: »

It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however

It sucks when you have 1400+ CP you've got for 4 years but your combat bonuses are worse than at 810 CP because of dying server.

Jierdanit · May 2021

francesinhalover wrote: »

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op?

Im guessing that a lot of people will think that your post is meant rather sarcastic, because a lot of players have different opinions on:

not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.

especially regarding PvP balancing, because the balancing team really is not always doing a great job when it comes to actually properly balancing stuff in PvP.

francesinhalover · May 2021

Ekzorka wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however

It sucks when you have 1400+ CP you've got for 4 years but your combat bonuses are worse than at 810 CP because of dying server.

If the server was dying i doubt they would push crp from 800 to 2000 something to scare new players.

francesinhalover · May 2021

Jierdanit wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op?

Im guessing that a lot of people will think that your post is meant rather sarcastic, because a lot of players have different opinions on:

not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.

especially regarding PvP balancing, because the balancing team really is not always doing a great job when it comes to actually properly balancing stuff in PvP.

I have seen new stealth kill animations show up for vamp and blade of woe after weeks of using them.
that means the whole stealth kill animation system is glitched or it's my acc not sure.

Everstorm · May 2021

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

francesinhalover · May 2021

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

lmao because a small number of npcs matters a lot expecialy when the game is full of non human npcs.
i wish i could also stealth kill the monsters, for no xp , i dont care. it's annoying having to spam abilities constantly on npcs when i can just go stealth.

Everstorm · May 2021

francesinhalover wrote: »

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

lmao because a small number of npcs matters a lot expecialy when the game is full of non human npcs.
i wish i could also stealth kill the monsters, for no xp , i dont care. it's annoying having to spam abilities constantly on npcs when i can just go stealth.

Boost your weapon damage a bit and you can one shot any standard mob with a regular single damage attack from stealth.

francesinhalover · May 2021

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

lmao because a small number of npcs matters a lot expecialy when the game is full of non human npcs.
i wish i could also stealth kill the monsters, for no xp , i dont care. it's annoying having to spam abilities constantly on npcs when i can just go stealth.

Boost your weapon damage a bit and you can one shot any standard mob with a regular single damage attack from stealth.

wut how? i clearly cant, i'm using vamp passive atm, but even then it's pretty rng

im stam sorce not nightblade

Everstorm · May 2021

I don't play my stamsorc very often but I'm sure it can be done.
Anyway, I'm not trying to get you down. If you enjoy the a ability good for you. I think it's way, way, way too expensive for what it does.

francesinhalover · May 2021

Everstorm wrote: »

I think it's way, way, way too expensive for what it does.

100% agree , it should be available to lower cp players that want to roleplay, i think it just isn't that good to be 75, if you could stealth kill while invisible i wouldnt complain however

Vevvev · June 2021

francesinhalover wrote: »

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

lmao because a small number of npcs matters a lot expecialy when the game is full of non human npcs.
i wish i could also stealth kill the monsters, for no xp , i dont care. it's annoying having to spam abilities constantly on npcs when i can just go stealth.

Boost your weapon damage a bit and you can one shot any standard mob with a regular single damage attack from stealth.

wut how? i clearly cant, i'm using vamp passive atm, but even then it's pretty rng

im stam sorce not nightblade

I don't even need stealth I just straight up one shot everything. Stam Sorc has Crystal Weapon you can mix with Imbue Weapon + the sneak attack bonus. Melee sneak attacks are stronger than ranged, but you'll still one shot with the Ranged one if you have at least 2 complete sets. I'd recommend building into more weapon damage and max stamina if I were you.

Edit: Can also Dizzy Swing or Snipe from stealth to. With the new patch magic attacks can also sneak attack so if you want to be a real vampire and switch to a mag build you can one shot with Arterial Burst/Blood for Blood.

Moloch1514 · June 2021

I believe RP gameplay and serious Pve/PvP gameplay will never align. Thus opinions will be coming from completely different perspectives.

VampReworkFailed · June 2021

francesinhalover wrote: »

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

lmao because a small number of npcs matters a lot expecialy when the game is full of non human npcs.
i wish i could also stealth kill the monsters, for no xp , i dont care. it's annoying having to spam abilities constantly on npcs when i can just go stealth.

At that point why not be a vampire and just run past every NPC encounter?

ZOS_ConnorG · June 2021

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francesinhalover · June 2021

VampReworkFailed wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Everstorm wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

This has nothing to do with balance. I can say its quite opposite. Before you could kill one npc with chance to being detected. Now you can kill multiple.

Now i am thinking, was your post sarcastic? Blade of woe killing mechanic was changed but its nowhere near balanced.

Its like saying madieval battles were balanced by adding guns

why would it be sarcastic and how is it op? You can legit kill those npcs with 2 rapid strikes a lot faster.
omg stabbing 3 random weak npcs is so op.
doesn't help that pickpocketing isn't even that lucrative even with cp focused on it. compared to just harvesting.
not everyone is a bad person, i'm legit thanking them , they did a good job making the game fun.
And i hope the balance team reads my post and feels good about themselves.
It sucks that you need to be like 600 cp to use however i wish new players could enjoy this amazing passive more easily.

Congratulations, now you can kill more trivial npcs for half experience. Gaining the experience using that method the CP ability only costs 150 points.👍

lmao because a small number of npcs matters a lot expecialy when the game is full of non human npcs.
i wish i could also stealth kill the monsters, for no xp , i dont care. it's annoying having to spam abilities constantly on npcs when i can just go stealth.

At that point why not be a vampire and just run past every NPC encounter?

Oh, because vampire passives i guess

or i might not feel like roleplaying vampire.