volkeswagon wrote: »

Not sure why someone would be opposed to a pve diil/ic server because it doesn't affect them. If you want pvp then you would choose pvp. Those who want to do the dailies without griefers would choose pve. This server isn't reflected of the true overall consensus as most people on these forums are pvp pc players. But i do often wonder why they put pve quests in pvp. PVP dailies should be pvp based.

It could affect PvP by not supplying new players to the content. The game depends in part on players doing different activities. Armor sets in trials that are good for PvP and skills found in PvP that are good for PvE are examples of dynamics in game to get players to try different things. Quests in Cyrodiil also does this. Players going to do the quests may find they like PvP and decide to join more often. I know that is what happened to me and others in my guild. Making a PvE only Cyrodiil could hurt the long term health of the game not just PvP.

I wouldn't be surprised if this actually happens in future because

1) They hinted at Imperial City by putting it on the main map around the outside (see one of my other posts)
2) They have moved the 5k health from PvP to this current patch as a permanent buff

This could certainly mean they are getting the world ready so people can switch on PvP in any PvE map if they so choose.

By doing this it means they have a entire Cyrodiil map they can upgrade with much more to do which is a great idea!

Easily_Lost wrote: »

I don't know if it has been said yet. Most PVPers will leave you alone if you do not respond to their attacks. They will realize that you are not their to fight but to gather skyshards, or other items and leave you alone.

To be on the safe side make sure you carry plenty of filled soul gems are repair kits, I do LOL.

I think most PVE players experience is quite the opposite, hence the recurrent posts suggesting a PVE alternative.

Honestly, thousands of PvErs before you went into Cyrodiil and got the skyshards behind the gates, the fish, the quest achievements.

You can do it too.

Bring some friends if you want. Take some precautions. You can do it. It will be fine.

I tried PvP in ESO but it's not my thing. The only time I go to Cyrodiil is during holiday events, just for the occasional scouting mission to earn tickets. I don't care about AP or TelVar. I'd happily visit a PvE-instanced version of Cyrodiil to run delves and such. But I don't expect it will ever happen.

I think there could be pvp and pve versions of every zone in game and see how it goes.

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Vermintide wrote: »

I don't understand why both crowds can't have what they want? PVP stays as it is, the OP's suggestion means PVE would be a new, separate zone. Both players are happy.

I suspect I know the reason: Without PVE players and zergling potatoes to gank your TV stones and farm easy AP from, you'd be poor.

If you venture into Cyrodiil outside the events you will find thing for the most part is not true. PvP'rs get a bad reputation mostly because PvE'rs with a bit of PvP experience camp to gank other PvE'rs during events. A player that actually is good at PvP usually leaves players doing quests alone. Not always but usually.

Killing players there just for the quest is about as exciting as killing mud crabs in PvE and less rewarding.

@SshadowSscale wrote: »

You lost me at Tela drops should remain.... for real it is a pvp reward that should only be gained via pvp.... sorry but your tela farning dream won't happen

Then... why is it gained through pve activities such as slaying monsters, opening treasure chests, and killing boss mobs? The ONLY thing that makes Tel Var PvP is the fact that you can kill other players to steal half of their acquired total. Everything else about Tel Var is PvE... This is why I tend to dislike imperial city. I LIKE how AP is gained in Cyrodiil; killing enemies doesn't force the opponent you've killed to lose their accumulated AP, and you gain AP by completing war tasks and efforts such as taking keeps and other important locations. You CANNOT gain AP from killing monsters or looting treasure chests, and the ONLY thing that is related to PvE with AP currency is completing daily quests in towns that have nothing to do with the PvP in Cyrodiil.... that's it.

Alliance Points: completely PvP-focused with the exception of cyrodiil town daily quests.

Tel Var: entirely PvE-focused with the exception of being able to kill other players and steal a full half of their accumulated Tel Var yield.

AP encourages just normal pvp activity, Tel Var on the other hand? We all know how different the combat bars and equipped gear can be between effective PvE builds and PvP builds... To effectively gain Tel Var, you have to make yourself vulnerable to PvP builds... and all the PvP builds have to do to gain Tel Var is to shadow a PvE-built farmer, and proceed to gank the crap out of them when they're making their way back to base to deposit their earnings. Unlike AP, Tel Var massively encourages griefing and likewise makes it easier to kill players whose builds are equipped for taking on mobs, not other players.