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I think it's time ZOS started hiring volunteers that would police the game for RPs.

  • Lowbei
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    Funny, as in my six years of roleplay I've never seen people doing erotic roleplay in public, ever. And you, who allegedly run into only a handful of roleplayers, frequently run into the saucy stuff? Such a coincidence!

    To me it sounds like you are grasping to save face after being called out for mudballing RPers, so now you bring out the 'I'm a psychologist, are you okay??' and 'but the children, what about the ERP!' cards for an easy crowd pleaser.

    I mean sure, I bet some roleplayers do spicy scenes like that. But in public? No way. If you see that stuff.. those people are not roleplayers., No roleplayer I know condones public ERP. People heavily condemn stuff like that. Doing that out in the open is considered a taboo in pretty much every community, and rightly so. Like I said, it's almost like a convenient card you pull out, to ''''prove'''' that roleplayers are weird after all.

    Again, let me introduce you to Fells Run in Rivenspire, where this kind of stuff happens often. I would take a screenshot of it to post here, but it would likely get removed by mods if I didnt censor out the actual proof of the chat box, making that useless.

  • Streega
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Good chance the enforcement would be more annoying than the issue

    Eh the lack of any enforcement in game is just sad. Fact you have community going into hiding because ZoS refuses to do much is sad. But that is their problem. Sad to see ambassador even bootlicking ZoS. But hey it is like amazon Ambassador job just make them look good even if they're bad. :).

    Back when we created our guild, we had "Light Roleplay" in the description. On our first RP event we were joined by a "hardcore" RP'er, who didn't even try to chime in, but instead started to insult our "manners" and not obeying the "proper RP etiquette". Another time I tried to join a group of RP'ers in the Riften tavern, but I was totally ignored at first, then one of them whispered to me with something like "stop bothering us, you noob". To be honest, I have never had even one positive RP encounter in ESO. Needless to say, I have removed the "RP" part from our intro.
    And here you are, calling one of the most respected members of the community a bootlicker. RP'ers are spamming public chat with their emotes, shunning new players who want to learn how to RP, and accusing everybody of harassment while occupying quest zones. Tell me, who is harassing who here?
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  • TheFM
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    Lowbei wrote: »
    Dusk_Coven wrote: »

    Here's an analogy for what you did: Someone was assaulted for being gay and goes to city council to complain about lack of law enforcement. So, to find out what the fuss is about, you go and assault a gay person. And you discover they were new to town -- as if this information is relevant.

    You attempting to use an actual hate crime as analogy to someone throwing mudballs at you in a video game, is just ridiculous sir. Theres really nothing else I can say on that subject that wouldnt sound mean.

    "A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime or bias crime) is a prejudice-motivated crime which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of their membership (or perceived membership) of a certain social group or race."

    Since the mudballing in question was directed specifically at roleplayers (a social group), I think it's close enough.
    Which is not to say griefing someone for hours is okay even if it's not motivated by their membership in any group. It's still griefing.

    That is massive insult to social groups that have experienced violence and death over hundreds of years. Just stop right there.
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    Lowbei wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Lowbei wrote: »
    So if they arent more emotional (again not an insult) then why does this thread exist? I have seen 5+ angry RPer forum threads here in the last 3 days about normal players making them upset, yet zero normal player threads upset at RPers.

    Honestly? Go into any complaint thread that exists here. They are all filled with "emotion". By this bar, either there ain't no "normal players" around, or RPers really have a broad amount of interest in this game.

    Yeah, but most of them arent being posted in the wrong forum section (theres an RPer forum) and demanding ZOS ban people for using visual effects.

    Lots of threads are posted in the wrong forum section. Do you think that every thread about the PTS LA changes are posted in the PTS forum? Or the even a combat forum? Every nerf thread is posted in the right forum section? Again, either we assume that there ain't no "normal players" around, or those RPers are really interested in a wide variety of subjects with this game.

    I know that you are just having fun, here, but seriously, time to pick something new. :smile:
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  • Gaebriel0410
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    Streega wrote: »
    Back when we created our guild, we had "Light Roleplay" in the description. On our first RP event we were joined by a "hardcore" RP'er, who didn't even try to chime in, but instead started to insult our "manners" and not obeying the "proper RP etiquette". Another time I tried to join a group of RP'ers in the Riften tavern, but I was totally ignored at first, then one of them whispered to me with something like "stop bothering us, you noob". To be honest, I have never had even one positive RP encounter in ESO. Needless to say, I have removed the "RP" part from our intro.

    That's sad to hear. Unfortunately every group has its bad apples, and roleplayers aren't excluded from that. Thankfully, usually it's the exact opposite, as a steady influx of new people interested in / willing to learn how to RP, is vital for the continuation of our hobby. So I daresay that the true noobs there were the roleplayers that chased you off, unless of course you were being rude to them first.

    Streega wrote: »
    RP'ers are spamming public chat with their emotes, shunning new players who want to learn how to RP, and accusing everybody of harassment while occupying quest zones. Tell me, who is harassing who here?

    This however, is complete nonsense and a load of generalization. RPers are spamming public chat? How else would people RP? Should we make funny faces at each other in complete silence, like a bunch of creepy mimes? You can easily tab out of /say chat, if it bothers you that much to see people use chat to, gasp, talk.

    RPers don't accuse everyone of harassment. In fact, if you'd account all the 'oh just one mudball for giggles' cases some of us have to ignore on a daily basis, we probably have the thickest skin in the entirety of ESO. We do however, rightfully speak up when RPers are being griefed for a lengthy period of time. We also don't 'occupy' quest zones. Is if forbidden to stand in a zone with a group of people, and use the chat function to.. chat?



  • Lowbei
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    Lots of threads are posted in the wrong forum section. Do you think that every thread about the PTS LA changes are posted in the PTS forum? Or the even a combat forum? Every nerf thread is posted in the right forum section? Again, either we assume that there ain't no "normal players" around, or those RPers are really interested in a wide variety of subjects with this game.

    I know that you are just having fun, here, but seriously, time to pick something new. :smile:

    Arent we all having fun here? Time to pick something new?

    So let me get this straight, you admit that this was posted in the wrong forum, use whataboutism to say ‘but other people post in the wrong sections too!’ and then tell me that I should stop commenting here. Sorry, but they didnt make a special forum for us normal players, so we post in the general forum. Honestly, I cant imagine one of us going to your RP forum and requesting you to stop commenting there, as that would be rude.
    Edited by Lowbei on March 28, 2020 1:14PM
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    We have had to remove several additional posts from this thread. As it seems this topic can not be discussed without going off the rails we have made the decision to close this thread.
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