7 day cp changing to 30 day cp no lock

ThePedge · September 2019

Bergzorn wrote: »

turlisley wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).
Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

This would be the best option, given the current scenario. If only @ZOS_BrianWheeler would lurk and listen.

No thanks. I enjoy 30 day no CP on PC/EU, and so do a lot of other players (it's often pop-locked on all factions at least during the EU evening). Changing it to 7 day wouldn't be the end of the world, but I see no reason for this.

Yup PCEU see the light and noCP is as popular if not more so than CP.

Get rid of 30 Day CP and have only two campaigns. 30 Day noCP Locked. 30 Day noCP Unlocked.

Xologamer · September 2019

rip u dont know how much players would flame if they delete 30day cp

AhPook_Is_Here · September 2019

ThePedge wrote: »

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

So, the same as 7 Day minus Emp farmers

Hope that's not the case as that would just mean empty.

Kartalin · September 2019

The problem with introducing the unlocked 30 day cp campaign now is everyone is already homed on an existing campaign that will continue to exist when the new campaign is introduced. So right now Kaalgrontid has a huge amount of gravity, and getting people to rehome their characters will be complicated. I think the only thing that would make it work is getting the guilds to buy into this -- I suspect a lot will but at the same time I don't think the feeling is universal either. Terrible guilds that like to think they're good (e.g. Homicide) might still believe in faction locks for whatever reason.

Unless a lot of guilds buy in and move their members to the unlocked campaign quickly, I think we're going to see this thing fall flat on its face.

And please do not get rid of non-cp, a significant number of us still prefer the format.

dennissomb16_ESO · September 2019

with Cyrodiil populations being very low at the moment my biggest concern is there will be no campaign anymore with a semblance of population being full and competitive. The 30 day CP already has to many unbalanced population hours. With a new 30 day CP unlocked I can see all campaigns becoming nothing more then Emp flipping.

Xologamer · September 2019

dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »

with Cyrodiil populations being very low at the moment my biggest concern is there will be no campaign anymore with a semblance of population being full and competitive. The 30 day CP already has to many unbalanced population hours. With a new 30 day CP unlocked I can see all campaigns becoming nothing more then Emp flipping.

but i think its a step in the right direction because this faction lock does rly nothing than preventing friend to play togehter - eg i have a blue an a red friend and i m yellow so i normaly never can play cyro qwith them....

Karivaa · September 2019

RIP PVP. So it’s almost dead anyways and now they want to spread the remaining players out over 2 30 day campaigns? Lovely.

Xologamer · September 2019

Karivaa wrote: »

RIP PVP. So it’s almost dead anyways and now they want to spread the remaining players out over 2 30 day campaigns? Lovely.

3 30day campains ^^
and they do nothing more than incressing the time from 7to 30days so dont understand all this posts

turlisley · September 2019

Xologamer wrote: »

Karivaa wrote: »

RIP PVP. So it’s almost dead anyways and now they want to spread the remaining players out over 2 30 day campaigns? Lovely.

3 30day campains ^^
and they do nothing more than incressing the time from 7to 30days so dont understand all this posts

We don't understand the incorrect grammar and broken Engrish in your posts, either.

Darkmistress1337 · September 2019

The 7-day campaign should remain and instead become no-CP.
We don't need a 30-day no-CP campaign, faction-locked or not.

dtsharples · September 2019

I think you'll have a hard time convincing Guilds to move into the unlocked campaign, not only because it's going to be full of PVEers that offer no real opposition - but also because a lot of people have heavily invested into one single faction with their characters.
I like that they are doing this though, it's great that people have options, and that the vocal few who dislike faction lock now have nothing to complain about.
Plus I really hope that the PVDoor turds head on over to the new campaign instead of running amok over Kaal in off-peak.
Good news for all concerned

Soul_Demon · September 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

Ohh I though they were simply closing the 7 day altogether and just keeping two 30 days CP/noCP. Well I predict that either it will be just some spillover and mostly dead like the current 7 day or there will be just a lot of PvDoor most of the day on both campaigns.

The locked will be only active server. Much as they lie about it, faction swappers cant stand to play with others who don't push map or take things on it....they will all port over like excited little kids on Christmas morning- to find everyone else on the server standing around waiting for someone to do something. When that doesn't happen they will all log over to each of the other alliances 'looking for good fights' and eventually just hang around in stealth waiting.

The really funny ones will be farming groups who take resources and no one shows...they will do that for 30 min and then repeat what the others do until they get too bored and just log off. Rock humpers and tree huggers will really be in for a bad time...no one will chase them around things. Most will just go back over to the locked camp in a week or so max.

Personally would really have rather seen ZOS spend time fixing bugs instead of doing this- we all know how this will turn out, yup...you guessed it. Battlegrounds version 2. Waste of time and resources for sure.

ZOS_JesC · September 2019

Greetings, we've removed a handful of nonconstructive comments that were derailing the thread. This is a friendly reminder to remain constructive and civil when posting.

Imryll · October 2019

I like Bahklodaan as is: 30-day no CP locked. Thanks very much.

Darkmage1337 · October 2019

Imryll wrote: »

I like Bahklodaan as is: 30-day no CP locked. Thanks very much.

I like Yolnahkriin 7-day CP-enabled without faction lock as it is. Thank you very much.

It doesn't change the fact that ZOS deletes campaign options whenever they want. No one cares what you like.

Imryll · October 2019

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Imryll wrote: »

I like Bahklodaan as is: 30-day no CP locked. Thanks very much.

I like Yolnahkriin 7-day CP-enabled without faction lock as it is. Thank you very much.
It doesn't change the fact that ZOS deletes campaign options whenever they want. No one cares what you like.

And I'd be happy for you to keep it. To me the shorter duration makes perfect sense for folks not focused on faction.

yRaven · October 2019

Thank you

Xologamer · October 2019

Imryll wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Imryll wrote: »

I like Bahklodaan as is: 30-day no CP locked. Thanks very much.

I like Yolnahkriin 7-day CP-enabled without faction lock as it is. Thank you very much.
It doesn't change the fact that ZOS deletes campaign options whenever they want. No one cares what you like.

And I'd be happy for you to keep it. To me the shorter duration makes perfect sense for folks not focused on faction.

if the shortet time get 50 transmutation stones to i would be fine

Ackwalan · October 2019

Xologamer wrote: »

Imryll wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Imryll wrote: »

I like Bahklodaan as is: 30-day no CP locked. Thanks very much.

I like Yolnahkriin 7-day CP-enabled without faction lock as it is. Thank you very much.
It doesn't change the fact that ZOS deletes campaign options whenever they want. No one cares what you like.

And I'd be happy for you to keep it. To me the shorter duration makes perfect sense for folks not focused on faction.

if the shortet time get 50 transmutation stones to i would be fine

If the 7 day gave 50 transmutation stones a week, all the other campaigns would be empty, no matter what was locked or unlocked.

TequilaFire · October 2019

Delsskia wrote: »

The better fights potato farms will be on the CP/unlocked campaign and the wins won't be lopsided like they are now. The last week of the campaign will be fun again.

Fixed that for ya.

frozywozy · October 2019

Again, what should be done and what should have been done is handling the CP system in a first time. I personally don't care if the CP system is removed and replace by a better balance overall or if the CP system is tweaked around.

The main goal is to unify everyone in Cyrodiil / Battlegrounds instead of splitting them into CP / No-CP. As a result, we could concentrate the Cyrodiil population into two campaigns instead of 3 (One 30days lock / One 30days no-lock) and in the meantime, force people who play during Oceanic time (off hours) to fight each other instead of pvdooring the map.

nryerson1025 · October 2019

As a 7-Day regular, I think this is a step forward in preventing or at least reducing the amount of emp swapping going on in the campaign. It will also lead to more regulars caring about the campaign score, which as of right now on seven day I can only think of maybe two to three players who do

Katahdin · October 2019

ThePedge wrote: »

Bergzorn wrote: »

turlisley wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).
Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

This would be the best option, given the current scenario. If only @ZOS_BrianWheeler would lurk and listen.

No thanks. I enjoy 30 day no CP on PC/EU, and so do a lot of other players (it's often pop-locked on all factions at least during the EU evening). Changing it to 7 day wouldn't be the end of the world, but I see no reason for this.

Yup PCEU see the light and noCP is as popular if not more so than CP.

Get rid of 30 Day CP and have only two campaigns. 30 Day noCP Locked. 30 Day noCP Unlocked.

PCNA 30 day CP is more popular than no CP.

Get rid of no-CP and have only two campaigns. 30 day CP locked. 30 day CP unlocked.

STOP trying to take choice away from others

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Hashtag_ · October 2019

The only thing that matters is will this camp be listed first on the list....

dtsharples · October 2019

Katahdin wrote: »

PCNA 30 day CP is more popular than no CP.

Get rid of no-CP and have only two campaigns. 30 day CP locked. 30 day CP unlocked.

STOP trying to take choice away from others

.

Your own proposal is of-course not doing exactly this....nope, not at all
Move along, no Hypocrisy to see here

O.o

Katahdin · October 2019

dtsharples wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

PCNA 30 day CP is more popular than no CP.

Get rid of no-CP and have only two campaigns. 30 day CP locked. 30 day CP unlocked.

STOP trying to take choice away from others

.

Your own proposal is of-course not doing exactly this....nope, not at all
Move along, no Hypocrisy to see here O.o

My own "proposal" stated the opposite point and was hypocritical on purpose to make a point, not because it was a serious suggestion

turlisley · October 2019

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No-CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP-Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New, Proposed by ZOS:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No-CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP-Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No-CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP-Enabled No Alliance Lock campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No-CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make the most amount of players satisfied.

New, Proposed by me:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No-CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP-Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP-Disabled & No Alliance Lock
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

Both CP-Enabled campaigns would have 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No-CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).
Who wants dreadful No-CP PlayerVsGuards gameplay for 30 straight days? An entire month of the same No-CP leaderboard is pretty miserable. Any No-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days in duration, not 30-days.

Another PTS Patch, yet no news on Cyrodiil campaigns. @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno any thoughts to share about this idea? Preferably before the lag-free 7-day campaign is lost forever in 2-3 weeks when the Dragonhold DLC update goes live.