What is this steel tornado build i see everyone run lately?

Lord-Otto · March 2018

It always comes down to Steel Tornado. Not the other morph, not Pulsar, not even Sap Essence - it's always Steel Tornado which is most hated.

The DW damage makes this skill hit very hard for an AoE, it has huge range AND even serves as an execute! If you simply de-slot Killer's Blade or Executioner for this, you're sacrificing nothing and gain an undodgable execute with group utility.

I'm all for removing AoE caps. I simply think Steel Tornado needs a slight nerf. Just a slight one.

Anazasi · March 2018

a 9m aoe execute that cost a reasonable amount of stam. not hard to actually figure out why its popular again with the removal of aoe caps. Deals up to 100% more damage based on targets missing health.

The question at this point is what sets?

here is a current theory build i'm working on.
seventh legion
hem ja's
krags monster
dual wield, two handed

i've always wanted to use hem ja in a build. the reason is major berserk only comes from 2 sources. this set and the blade of woe. i could be wrong here but as i understand berserk both minor and major are calculated at the end of the damage line. i don't think this extra damage is cut in half in pvp. so if you do 10k damage that would be half in pvp. so 5k plus minor and major berserk would be 32% extra damage or somewhere around 1600 extra. with steel tornado that 6600 could be 13200 in pvp. of course thats only if this works this way. Regardless that's a lot of extra damage and when zerg fighting, well death is every where.

so i hope this kind of helps the OP.

Zagnut123Zagnut123 · March 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

a 9m aoe execute that cost a reasonable amount of stam. not hard to actually figure out why its popular again with the removal of aoe caps. Deals up to 100% more damage based on targets missing health.

The question at this point is what sets?

here is a current theory build i'm working on.
seventh legion
hem ja's
krags monster
dual wield, two handed

i've always wanted to use hem ja in a build. the reason is major berserk only comes from 2 sources. this set and the blade of woe. i could be wrong here but as i understand berserk both minor and major are calculated at the end of the damage line. i don't think this extra damage is cut in half in pvp. so if you do 10k damage that would be half in pvp. so 5k plus minor and major berserk would be 32% extra damage or somewhere around 1600 extra. with steel tornado that 6600 could be 13200 in pvp. of course thats only if this works this way. Regardless that's a lot of extra damage and when zerg fighting, well death is every where.

so i hope this kind of helps the OP.

Acuity is the set that drives this build. It works best on stam sorcs and stam blades.

Sixty5 · March 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

a 9m aoe execute that cost a reasonable amount of stam. not hard to actually figure out why its popular again with the removal of aoe caps. Deals up to 100% more damage based on targets missing health.

The question at this point is what sets?

here is a current theory build i'm working on.
seventh legion
hem ja's
krags monster
dual wield, two handed

i've always wanted to use hem ja in a build. the reason is major berserk only comes from 2 sources. this set and the blade of woe. i could be wrong here but as i understand berserk both minor and major are calculated at the end of the damage line. i don't think this extra damage is cut in half in pvp. so if you do 10k damage that would be half in pvp. so 5k plus minor and major berserk would be 32% extra damage or somewhere around 1600 extra. with steel tornado that 6600 could be 13200 in pvp. of course thats only if this works this way. Regardless that's a lot of extra damage and when zerg fighting, well death is every where.

so I hope this kind of helps the OP.

You can also get Major Berserk from Reapers Mark and Storm Atronach

Anazasi · March 2018

yes reapers does but its 5secs and only activates on the marked targets death. storm is similar in that you have to synergize and lasts 8 seconds. neither of those are reliably sustainable in a prolonged fight. hem ja requires any death within 28 meters and you dont have to even tag them. its just something dies boom buff active.

Aztlan · March 2018

Rise of the stamblade in groups, oh yesh!

DDuke · March 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

yes reapers does but its 5secs and only activates on the marked targets death. storm is similar in that you have to synergize and lasts 8 seconds. neither of those are reliably sustainable in a prolonged fight. hem ja requires any death within 28 meters and you dont have to even tag them. its just something dies boom buff active.

Yeah, I've been kinda wanting to make a stamina "bomb build" with Heem-Jas & Thrive in Chaos (DW ulti morph that buffs all damage by 5%/target hit, up to 30%) for some absurd Shrouded Daggers->Steel Tornados.

Just missing the Asylum DW

Aztlan · March 2018

Yes, I can attest that a well-timed Thrive in Chaos into Steel Tornado is a thing of beauty.

Dr_Ganknstein · October 2018

Its because its the easiest move to land even when you are lagging and it does very good damage.

Nyladreas · October 2018

Icky wrote: »

Its because its the easiest move to land even when you are lagging and it does very good damage.

Stop necroing threads... jesus... This isn't even relevant anymore in the slightest...

Ragnarock41 · October 2018

I use it a lot lately on my medium Dk. Not gonna give out my build though.

Edit:Nvm this is a necro, but 4 man ST spam is the only legit way to deal with stamblade terror so I went that route.

Azurya · October 2018

Lord-Otto wrote: »

It always comes down to Steel Tornado. Not the other morph, not Pulsar, not even Sap Essence - it's always Steel Tornado which is most hated.

The DW damage makes this skill hit very hard for an AoE, it has huge range AND even serves as an execute! If you simply de-slot Killer's Blade or Executioner for this, you're sacrificing nothing and gain an undodgable execute with group utility.

I'm all for removing AoE caps. I simply think Steel Tornado needs a slight nerf. Just a slight one.

now that DW is working at last as intended, after 4 years waiting to get it fixed, and NOW it is in line with magicka AoEs, now you yell for a nerf??? it already got nerfed, remind 4-5 patches ago, reason: no reason, just because ZOS can nerf all and everything anytime..........................

lucky_dutch · October 2018

1) It’s very, very easy to play
2) It’s effective

ZOS_Ragnar · October 2018

We have closed this thread as it recently resurfaced. Old threads have the potential to contain outdated information that is no longer relevant. if you feel a topic still warrants a discussion it is better to create a new thread then to reply to an old one such as this.