A story...about a wannabe elitist

TARAFRAKA · July 2017

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Not to debunk your story but how was the tank getting agro with a 2H?

Also what's with that "console pleb" whisper, makes no sense whatsoever...

he used inner fire..from the undaunted line. It doesn't require a specific weapon...
And Im not sure what the deal is with console pleb. Its the first time Ive ever had it thrown at me lol. I have heard of console peasants but only on the forums.

Ah ok, with him being a cp 90 something I just assumed he didn't know/use inner fire.

Totally random especially with that guy being a console player too.

I was also surprised to see that he was actually taunting with the 2H. Luckily that skill opens up pretty quickly even if you're only doing normal dungeons. Otherwise we would have double the fake tanks in the finder lol.

Night_Watch · July 2017

@TARAFRAKA

(Please read it all and understand I mean no malice.)

What an interesting thread! I know this may read as a bit disdainful but ... I kind of feel sorry for you. Let me explain; I believe you made a honest mistake in your original posting in calling yourself an elitist rather than an elite. Though you probably did not realize both can (or will - depending on the reader) be interpreted negatively;

Elite: a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.
Elitist: relating to or supporting the view that a society or system should be led by an elite.

It is easy to see why people can get upset when someone professes to be either. Another reason some people seem to have become upset in the thread is that you were seemingly being something of a;

Braggart: a person who boasts about their achievements or possessions

It's all about perception and how some people may have seen you as trying to be superior to them in a rather negative manner.

That written and out of the way I can continue more positively.

Your disclaimer shows how you recognize the perception problem and has a humble apology which is good. Maybe 'elite' or 'elitist' are not good words to use and 'competitive player' comes across as less arrogant.

As much as some may see your original post (especially pre-disclaimer) as bragging, I suspect this was not your intent.

I play almost exclusively PVE as I can enjoy doing so at my own pace. I have neurological issues that intermittently affect my coordination,fine motor control and response times and these can, and do, slow me down in game*. Content as you describe is not really my thing anyway!

It was good to read how you helped another player out (although I would not have used terms like 'drug' or 'carried'). Kicking the other player by vote was, in my view, reasonable under the circumstances. Although I'm sure the kicked player was unhappy, I'm also sure I would have been very happy had I been the kept and supported player.

Yes! I can see how some may find your OP as offensive. I do not though. In fact it heartens me to see such higher level players prepared to help out those at a lower level or those that may not be so experienced in the game (having few or no higher level alts). You can only take my word for it but I have seen, in other games, the massive detrimental effect elitism can have on the general player base or community. Good on you for showing that, although it seems contradictory, not all elites are elitist.

*I'm not looking for sympathy, empathy or invites to do other content with friendly groups as I really do enjoy bimbling along in PVE

EDIT: Miner spellink and tidy up.

TARAFRAKA · July 2017

Night_Watch wrote: »

@TARAFRAKA

(Please read it all and understand I mean no malice.)

What an interesting thread! I know this may read as a bit disdainful but ... I kind of feel sorry for you. Let me explain; I believe you made a honest mistake in your original posting in calling yourself an elitist rather than an elite. Though you probably did not realize both can (or will - depending on the reader) be interpreted negatively;
Elite: a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

Elitist: relating to or supporting the view that a society or system should be led by an elite.

It is easy to see why people can get upset when someone professes to be either. Another reason some people seem to have become upset in the thread is that you were seemingly being something of a;
Braggart: a person who boasts about their achievements or possessions

It's all about perception and how some people may have seen you as trying to be superior to them in a rather negative manner.

That written and out of the way I can continue more positively.

Your disclaimer shows how you recognize the perception problem and has a humble apology which is good. Maybe 'elite' or 'elitist' are not good words to use and 'competitive player' comes across as less arrogant.

As much as some may see your original post (especially pre-disclaimer) as bragging, I suspect this was not your intent.

I play almost exclusively PVE as I can enjoy doing so at my own pace. I have neurological issues that intermittently affect my coordination,fine motor control and response times and these can, and do, slow me down in game*. Content as you describe is not really my thing anyway!

It was good to read how you helped another player out (although I would not have used terms like 'drug' or 'carried'). Kicking the other player by vote was, in my view, reasonable under the circumstances. Although I'm sure the kicked player was unhappy, I'm also sure I would have been very happy had I been the kept and supported player.

Yes! I can see how some may find your OP as offensive. I do not though. In fact it heartens me to see such higher level players prepared to help out those at a lower level or those that may not be so experienced in the game (having few or no higher level alts). You can only take my word for it but I have seen, in other games, the massive detrimental effect elitism can have on the general player base or community. Good on you for showing that, although it seems contradictory, not all elites are elitist.

*I'm not looking for sympathy, empathy or invites to do other content with friendly groups as I really do enjoy bimbling along in PVE

EDIT: Miner spellink and tidy up.

Dont worry, I took no offense to your post. I quite enjoyed it because it appears you actually understand my motive behind posting it. Hurray! It wasnt to brag or show off.
It was to share a cool experience I had and how nice it felt to be there for someone in their first vet dungeon clear. After you play for a long time, you forget how amazing the small stuff really feels when its your first time. It reminded me of my 1st dungeon and 1st trial clears. Some saw that right away and others will never be convinced but such is life!

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SquareSausage · July 2017

Tbh the guy who yous kicked was right (even though as you said he was prob a poor dps himself).

The guy queuing as a (fake) tank was not ready for his role, did not fulfil his role (getting one shotted over and over) and did not want to use a S&B as he was a 2H DPSer. He was lucky you two showed up that's all.

TARAFRAKA · July 2017

SquareSausage wrote: »

Tbh the guy who yous kicked was right (even though as you said he was prob a poor dps himself).

The guy queuing as a (fake) tank was not ready for his role, did not fulfil his role (getting one shotted over and over) and did not want to use a S&B as he was a 2H DPSer. He was lucky you two showed up that's all.

That was my issue. He was wearing a 2H and heavy armor and Selene monster set spamming dizzy swing as a dps. He was in no position to point out the other guys flaws. Plus the tank didnt start getting one shot til final boss, well after cp400 was gone, at the point cp400 started complaining the tank was doing just fine despite having a 2H.
Its not optimal but it can be done.
I gladly wouldve carried them both thru, the only reason I kicked cp400 was bc he started picking on lil 94.