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Partial Lift of NDA for Update 14

  • Strider_Roshin
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    Nolic1 wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    As of right now, we are partially lifting the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) specifically for the balance changes made to the four existing classes. This means you’ll be allowed to talk publicly outside of this forum area about the changes for the four existing classes and how they affect your character on the PTS in different scenarios, including how your characters perform in the new Battlegrounds and Trial.

    Please note that the NDA still applies to any content in the Morrowind Chapter such as Vvardenfell, the Warden class, Battlegrounds, and Halls of Fabrication. For the latter two, it’s fine to discuss how your characters perform in them for the sake of class performance and balance discussions, but please refrain from divulging details about the Battlegrounds and Trial.

    If you have any questions about this, please don’t hesitate to ask.


    Question can we do videos on the new changes to the 3 base classes balance and the champion point system from test or are we not allowed to yet?
    Yes, that's fine. "Talking" in this case can be via text or video, but make sure you're not showing any of the new content in Morrowind (Vvardenfell, the Trial, BGs).

    Yes, that's fine. We'll also add a description for each item set in Monday's PTS patch notes.

    Did you welcome community feedback? Are they going to readjust the changes made in the last Patch Note? Please bring good news!
    We always welcome feedback, and everyone is reading even if you don't see a public reply. :) We do have some tweaks coming to next week's PTS incremental, but please don't expect to see a complete 180 on some of the gameplay-related changes. Keyword here is tweaks.

    BuddyAces wrote: »
    If you didn't get an invite can you still test the base game changes on pts? I'm confused
    Yes, this has always been the case.

    Mulcibur wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Can you stream/make videos about the 4 base class changes and test?
    Yes. Again, as mentioned above, just make sure you're not streaming in Vvardenfell or showing any of the content from Morrowind. Being in any of the existing zones is fine.

    Any chance we can get an official thread discussing the new item sets?
  • DHale
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    If you did tweaks in the first place people wouldn't be so mad but you didn't. You made hard content VMA, COS, ROM, ICP. VMOL unplayable. How was this content tested by the QA team? My thinking is they put on Devs buffs and strolled through it but the rest of have to actually deal with these issues.
    Edited by DHale on April 21, 2017 2:24PM
    Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.
  • Tandor
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    DHale wrote: »
    If you did tweaks in the first place people wouldn't be so mad but you didn't. You made hard content VMA, COS, ROM, ICP. VMOL unplayable. How was this content tested by the QA team? My thinking is they put on Devs buffs and strolled through it but the rest of have to actually deal with these issues.

    You don't really understand the purpose of a test server, do you?
  • HoolDog
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Any chance of an answer on any RNG improvements or token system plans please?

    Thanks
  • Rex-Umbra
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    What if your steaming in a base game zone and a warden happens to steam bomb you?
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  • Minno
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    What if your steaming in a base game zone and a warden happens to steam bomb you?

    That's why they built that dueling arena near wayrest; to properly test the Morrowind changes without interruption since no one goes there lol.
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  • Minno
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno can the devs spearhead this partial lift and mention they acknowledged the cost reduction concerns and we'll be looking at the issue closely?

    Then have a post explaining they lifted the NDA for talks on balances for the classes?
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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  • Zieryk
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    So just for clarification the NDA lift allows us to talk about:
    4 Base Classes
    Champion point System
    Gear Set
    Cost reduction changes?

    Am I correct in this?
    Edited by Zieryk on April 21, 2017 6:48PM
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Zieryk wrote: »
    So just for clarification the NDA lift allows us to talk about:
    4 Base Classes
    Champion point System
    Gear Set
    Cost reduction changes?

    Am I correct in this?

    Nailed it.
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    Dev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter | My Twitter
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  • DrSweetazz
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    @Alcast you see what they said you can do and not be in nda violation?
  • spiiros
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    So how can they talk about class performance within the trial and battleground if they can't talk about either of those?
  • ParaNostram
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Just to confirm, is this effective immediately? If I made a post on the general forums right now would it be okay?
    "Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."

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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Just to confirm, is this effective immediately? If I made a post on the general forums right now would it be okay?

    Yes.
    Gina Bruno
    Senior Creator Engagement Manager
    Dev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter | My Twitter
    Staff Post
  • OMA
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    Ok thanks for the partial lift of NDA. I guess for real privacy to discuss the existing class skill and passive changes we can also use our private home area and the combat skeletons. No chance a warden will come in and videobomb you there.
  • Blacksmoke
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    Panic mode for all the hate ZoS has been getting?
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    Ganlian Stormian - AD - Dungeon healer - Templar - Crafter
    Ondaril Stormian - AD - Trail DPS - Sorcerer
    Shagrod gro-Bolmog - AD - PVP - Dragonknight
  • Curtdogg47
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    Start with the CP changes only. Leave classes how they are now and see what happens. Then adjust from there. I would love to see more small changes more often than huge changes every quarter.

  • ofSunhold
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    Mind removing the banner at the top of the page that states all content on the update is under an NDA? Or amending it?

    It isn't that I don't understand, or think others will understand, it's that I am rightly wary of NDAs. Let's have zero ambiguity, just for simplicity and peace of mind, yes?
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • Mojmir
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    Curtdogg47 wrote: »
    Start with the CP changes only. Leave classes how they are now and see what happens. Then adjust from there. I would love to see more small changes more often than huge changes every quarter.

    this
  • Frenkthevile
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    HoolDog wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Hi

    Any changes to the RNG system or any kind of token system planned for future PTS updates or in the final Morrowind patch.

    Thanks for your time

    Make this real, we need tokens...
  • DaggerfallTradeMasters
    Yeah well great i still got banned by Bethesday just streaming normal content so watch out guys lol:

    The content you streamed and archived on Twitch at www.twitch.tv/rubenoftheorder was the subject of a takedown notice we received from Bethesda Softworks pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"). This organization has asserted that it owns this content and that you streamed that content on Twitch without permission to do so. As a result we have cleared the offending archives, highlights, and episodes from your account and given you a 24 hour restriction from broadcasting.
  • stephkisten_ESO
    I agree 1000% with Curtdogg47 !
  • Warraxx
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    Is it ok to drive by Zenni HQ and flip the bird?
    Edited by Warraxx on April 22, 2017 6:26PM
  • Machete
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    HoolDog wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Any chance of an answer on any RNG improvements or token system plans please?

    Thanks

    I second this. Please do something about RNG. Run a dungeon to get a token, and specific pieces have a different amount of tokens tied to it. RNG can still drop random loot in dungeons and open world or whatever, but at least make it worth it. 30 times in VMA and I've only gotten a sharpened axe. Same with my hundreds of farms for Draugr, Bone Pirate, Automaton. And sets I wanna test like Spider Cultist, Netch, Sheer Venom. RNG makes me honestly not wanna do it.

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  • prototypefb
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    any chance you can remove bad weather from cyrodiil? heavy rain lowers fps quite alot
  • Mihael
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    Curtdogg47 wrote: »
    Start with the CP changes only. Leave classes how they are now and see what happens. Then adjust from there. I would love to see more small changes more often than huge changes every quarter.


    ^pls
  • technogeek64
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    any chance you can remove bad weather from cyrodiil? heavy rain lowers fps quite alot

    Oh I hope not...my computer doesn't like a lot of things (oldish laptop)...I rarely see over 20 fps, but getting rid of bad weather/rain would totally ruin any of the "elder scrolls" flavor. I don't know about the technical stuff necessary to do it, but a possible solution could be to add a setting where you could toggle the actual "rain" effect off and on.
  • AmmonErebos
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    So.. we are allowed to discuss the changes to current changes under the lifts to the NDA.... but informing other players that we are even in the beta has not been lifted... so really discussing current class changes is still a violation of the NDA as we are admitting we are part of the closed beta?
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Sooo what's going on?

    I'm seeing people are on PS4 can get into the morrowind sub forum?
  • RogueXD
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    Simply put... If you are a streamer and are still kinda concerned about not crossing the line on what is/isnt still NDA... you best bet is to not stream any of it at all and you will be safe! ;)
  • Elara_Northwind
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    What about the new player houses? Are we allowed to take screenshots and stuff of those now? :smile:
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